The Mellow Dees EPISODE # 174 The Paco Arespacochaga Podcast
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And the podcast will begin in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.
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Ladies and gentlemen, live at Paco's place,
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big round of applause, The Melodies!
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Thank you very much.
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From what? We just got here.
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I need to hear it.
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Or am I not? He doesn't know anymore.
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Thank you very much.
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Melody, congrats.
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Thank you for having us here.
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And it's great to be back, man.
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We have a lot of stories.
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Laman, let's talk about that.
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Because I'm pretty sure these people will start streaming
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and they'll be curious.
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So, who wrote the song?
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This lady right here.
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Actually, I've heard it already.
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The song is too sensual.
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What's wrong with that?
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Nothing. There's nothing wrong with it.
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That's why we like it.
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That's how you made it.
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It's just that when you have an impression of a young Melody, she sings it.
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Because we go way, way, way, way back.
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And Laman sings it.
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So, have you all...
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It's like listening to your little sister singing about those things.
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All of you who have been on Martin After Dark or Late At Night?
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So, that's how old he is.
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Really? Wolfgang's never been on a Martin Rivera show?
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No, only on Don Zulueta's show.
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I think you guys are too intense for my dad.
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Yeah, I think so.
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Too intense. You?
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Yeah, we have been.
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I just wanted to know all your ages.
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Oh, you? Have you been?
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Because I've never been that mad. I was a baby.
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Late at night, I was hiding.
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I just wanted to know your age without asking your number.
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Wait, you're digressing. Let's go back to Laman.
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Okay, so you wrote Laman?
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What's the inspiration for this?
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It's a storyline that I have to just create because a melody came to me one morning.
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Let's do it again.
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The same way a melody came to us one afternoon.
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But let's do it again. Let's do it again. There's a disclaimer.
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I just wrote a story. So, this isn't personal?
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Because the first word that dropped when I was having these melodies in my head was paulit-ulit.
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That's the first word that dropped in that exact melody.
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Noong kanta, noong chorus.
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So, paulit-ulit, paulit-ulit. Sabi ko, wow, this is a good line.
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What can I build as far as a story that will have this line repetitively?
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So, nag-build ako ng line from that na may paulit-ulit and then I work my way up and then down.
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So, bakit doon napunta sa laman?
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Hindi ko talaga alam. I mean, to me, probably it's going to be more interesting if you create a story like that with those words.
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Kasi if you listen to the lyrics, simple lang naman siya, although there are some mga malalalim na Tagalog.
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Tsaka adult-contemporary ang lyrics.
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So, yun nga. For me, it's like a modern-day serenade from a different angle.
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A different approach because a lot of people will not accept it that way. Parang, whoa, wait, wait, wait.
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The way it's presented, there are some people…
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Na parang too much for them.
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It's too much for them. Their imagination is not, their mind is not open enough to have that imagination na, you know what, it's both sides.
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You can't be just one side feeling like this.
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Pati babae, may sensuality rin.
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And it's coming from, and then you're hearing it through a woman's voice, so it's more, you know, it gets you.
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Speaking of woman's voice, when she presented it to you, anong, how did it get to you? Anong pakiramdam?
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Oh, right away. When the lyrics were coming out of her mouth, I'm like…
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Hindi pa naman kami close.
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No, no, no. I was playing it in front of him. Acoustic guitar, I was singing it in front of him.
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So, I was like, you're relaxed, you know, when she started. And then as the lyrics were coming, I'd start to get uncomfortable.
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Woah, this song. And then at the end, I was like, wow, this song is solid, man. This is solid.
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I still don't understand it.
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It's good for you.
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I just play guitars.
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Oh, we have an English subtitle, so you should be able to…
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Oh, finally, I can understand.
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Oh, I will forward it to you.
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I thought the chorus is just, if life gives you lemons, make lemonade.
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No, no, we have English subtitles.
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It's for the lyric video.
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No, it's probably out by the time this video is out.
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But you recorded it also in English?
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It's the other song.
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Hindi mo dinabi in English?
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No, we have another song.
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I don't think this song would be good in English.
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No, yeah. This is a strong Tagalog song.
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Yeah, it's meant to be a Tagalog song.
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Kasi pag in English mo, meat, iba na ibig sabihin.
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You don't wanna taglish it?
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Okay, so ginawang…
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Okay, what's your reaction?
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And then, ako reaction ko nung unang beses ko marinig,
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siya muna eh. Gusto ko yung beat kasi.
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Diba? Tapos medyo may pagka…
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And then after a while, parang,
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Budja, tama ba itong naririnig ko?
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Ganoon yung reaction ko.
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That was coming from you.
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So ang hirap yung one plus one.
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Parang, parang, okay.
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And you're singing it confidently.
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So isa lang sa atin ang may insecure
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at mukhang hindi ikaw yung na insecure.
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Because she's not.
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Because she's like…
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This is like, to me, in my head,
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it's like this is the most that you can express yourself.
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I mean, without being bastos.
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You know, without being bastos.
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Without being rude, you know.
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Parang, naririnig ko pa talaga to.
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And the thing is, in Tagalog,
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the more poetic you get,
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the more uncomfortable people get.
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The more honest or the more poetic?
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The more poetic and honest you are.
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When you portray honesty with that poetic Tagalog,
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oh my God, it's deep, man.
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And so goes with these kinds of lyrics, you know.
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Ang maganda, guys, yung hook, eh.
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You get hooked on the way the song was delivered,
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even the melody, even the chorus, everything.
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Tapos, yun ang next level mo is,
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pakinggan ko nga, kasi kinakanta mo niya, eh.
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Na parang, woah, woah, ulitin ko nga yan.
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Tama ba yung pagkarinig ko?
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And yun, yung nabi ko sabihin.
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When you were playing this for the first time,
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what was going through your head?
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Why are you laughing?
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What's she saying?
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I don't care kasi what you sing about, eh.
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All I know is that I understood what she was going for.
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It was very easy to find.
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Paano ka mag-interpret ng guitar parts?
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Kasi kaya ako tinatanong yan, magaling ka sa mga ano, eh,
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At saka nung podcast ng Melody, pinag-usapan ka namin,
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you're the type na,
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napaka-spontaneous mo,
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pero yung lumalabas sa kanya, diba,
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is parang, woah, ulitin mo nga yan, ang alin.
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That happened again the last time I saw him.
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We played in Wish Bus.
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And then he played this really heavy riff.
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And then we started jamming on the riff.
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And I'm like, in my head,
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Robin better remember this riff
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because this is really good.
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And then we stopped.
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And then like, do you remember that?
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I'm like, nothing, never mind.
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It's like, oh my gosh.
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Ang dami niyan tinatapon na…
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But I mean, it's a good thing
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because whatever's coming out of him,
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it's always by accident somehow.
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It's always good.
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But the nice thing is,
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I forget half the riffs I play.
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But when I played the riff for this one,
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There really was a part for that song.
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And parang we found it.
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This is what it's supposed to be.
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And palagi mo na ginagawa,
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okay, okay, okay.
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May mga times minsan…
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On the track, it's very quiet.
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They made it very quiet,
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he has actual parts
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when you think about it.
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I don't just go to his place.
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See, he's like jamming.
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At first, you would think
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that it's just jamming
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because he's a jamming kind of guitarist
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But in the studio,
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he knows how to be a studio guitarist.
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Now, there are parts,
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you know, there are guitar parts
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and there are rhythm parts
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na hindi lang jug-jug-jug-jug-jug ganon.
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I don't like that, eh.
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How can you have three guitars
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playing the same thing?
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That's good, yeah.
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That annoys me to no end.
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O sige, speaking of guitars
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playing the same thing,
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kayo yung dalawa,
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I'm a rhythm guitarist.
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the way I see it,
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my favorite bands
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who don't play the same thing.
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is such a good band
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because you can hear,
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you can tell which guitar
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is playing what, you know.
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It's not like some bands,
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half a power chord,
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the other is completing
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and the third one's doing
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You know what I mean?
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They're just doing the same thing.
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It drives me crazy to no end.
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And they have these exotic guitars.
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Five thousand dollar A chord.
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Something like that.
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She died for nothing.
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And the good thing is,
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Robin is very technical
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as you guys know.
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And I'm just like a really
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rhythm guitarist.
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I won't do any leads
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because I'll get lost in the song
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or I'll get lost in the guitar.
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So, he does that.
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I love finding space.
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How's Melody as your singer?
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Because you're also a solo artist.
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I know, I love that too.
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It's such a great feeling
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that I'm not singing.
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all our gigs that we've had,
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When I do a Newberry gig,
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30 minutes before,
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oh, it's off time.
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I'm like, whatever.
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We're going to start having you
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sing songs in between.
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did it ever occur to you,
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those are two soloists
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that you have in the band.
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And then when you're together,
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and you connect the two.
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It's very strange.
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But we want Wolf to sing.
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You do not want me to sing.
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It's very strange,
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that the three of us
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actually compliment each other.
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Because, you know.
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the behind the scenes,
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how do you compliment each other?
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No, because most of the time,
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most of the time,
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whatever songs there is.
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I mean, we have the songs
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that we recorded for the album.
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And then we have some,
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we have newer songs
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that haven't been recorded yet.
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Pero kompleto na eh
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because she has like a whole,
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the skeleton is there.
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we just have to sit down
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and arrange these things.
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I mean, and the songs
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that she's coming up with,
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It's like when you,
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when you hear it,
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my imagination goes
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that kind of rock,
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And the way he injects his,
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it just compliments.
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The music kasi is like,
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it's not a straight up,
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it's not a standard song.
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there's always a beginning,
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middle, and an end.
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So may art talaga sya.
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There's always like
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a storytelling portion.
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Like what you say
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may storyline, yeah.
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Although I don't know the words.
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For Tagalog lang.
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It still feels like it.
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That's what I'm trying to say.
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I don't understand what she's saying.
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But I don't need to understand
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what she's saying.
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Nararamdaman mo kasi.
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I know what she's going for.
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I know what she's speaking about.
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You know what I mean?
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ikaw ang pinakamatanda rito
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Ikaw ang pinakabata.
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malalayo kayo sa isa't isa.
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I'm the furthest.
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perfect example na
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logistics is not an issue
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para makagawa ng tugtog.
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It's very difficult.
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But you guys make it work.
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For most of the time.
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nagsastart ng banda,
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pag nakakausap ko,
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lagi niya sinasabi,
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anlayo ko na ganyan.
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magkakasama pa rin kayo.
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How long has the band been?
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There's been a break
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because of the pandemic.
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we've been together since 2019.
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Are we skipping it?
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We're not counting that.
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we can skip that.
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nalayo niyo sa isa't isa,
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nakagawa kayo ng,
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it's an EP that's coming out
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or just a single?
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It's a full album.
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It's gonna come out next year.
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Kaya ako binagit kanina,
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you being the eldest,
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ang pinakaseryoso rito?
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Seryoso sa inyong dalawa?
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I'm the serious one.
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Definitely not him.
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I'm the serious one.
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He's from Chicago,
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That's a commitment.
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that's a commitment.
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I think we're all,
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we're here right now.
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we've all had bands before.
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We all know how bands work.
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when the band is working,
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when the music is good,
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when what you're creating is good,
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that it's worth it to come
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and convene and play it,
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then you ride that wave.
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you ride the wave, man.
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the last band creative outlet
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I had before this
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was Three Headed Dog.
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Tsaka iba yung genre.
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Yung genre mo ngayon iba.
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I've always listened to all kinds of music.
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So this kind of band
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is the music that we grew up with
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that's where I can,
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my love for that era of music,
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I can apply it with this,
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naiinig mo siya dati with Wolfgang.
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doon nagkakilala kayong dalawa,
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and nakita mo yung,
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yung kanyang different side of playing,
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how did it move you?
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You mean when he was playing with Wolfgang?
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When he was playing with Wolfgang,
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legendary yun eh, di ba?
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ibang style ng music mo,
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iba ang drumming niya.
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But when you listen to the album,
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cohesive kayo eh.
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Ikaw rhythm guitar player,
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dikit yung ginagawa niyo.
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These are your songs.
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Nasa utak mo na kung paano mo gusto marinig.
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legendary drummer,
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finally working with you together.
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How did his drum style move you?
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I'm gonna correct you.
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When I'm writing the songs,
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and the songs that I've written in the past,
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even before meeting them,
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I don't have an idea how it's gonna sound.
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that's when he came in,
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they kind of like,
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did the landscape.
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was it like that when
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it was presented?
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I have the structure.
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I have the structure,
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the melody and everything,
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it sounds like a reggae,
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or more like a reggae beat.
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He was the one who said,
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let's do it this way.
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Okay, let's try it this way.
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because right when I heard her,
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the first time I heard it,
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come closer Robin.
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like the Netherlands,
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it's like this is Jamaica.
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We have to play it like that.
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We have to play big drums,
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but it's a reggae,
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And I don't have that in my mind.
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I wrote the song before
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sya hindi ganoon ang pag rhythm mo
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dati nung ginoon mo.
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when I was doing the music,
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let's inject the bridge.
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I was trying to figure out a chord.
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You might not remember this,
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anong chords pwede dito?
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And then he gave me,
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F minor yacht or something.
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I don't remember.
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he doesn't remember of course.
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What part is this?
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hoo-hoo-hoo naman.
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the part at the end.
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I couldn't figure out.
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Mahina ako sa ganoon eh.
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He always forget it.
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I came up with it,
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He even forgot that he named the band.
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Are you remembering it?
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Call it her name.
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call it your name,
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that's a tall order.
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I didn't want it.
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I didn't want the melody,
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Anong reaction mo ron?
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Because the D's during that time
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It was just D apostrophe S
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which means something to them.
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I don't want that.
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It sounds like my name.
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huling usap natin,
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hindi mo alam kung
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magbabanda ka pa o hindi.
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a hundred percent
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all-in ka ngayon eh.
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This episode is brought to you by
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Leo Bato and Associates.
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Ang realtor na pato.
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because it's working.
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The music is good.
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expressing myself on this
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So the drums that you hear
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on the rest of the songs
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when we talk about drums,
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May commitment ka ron eh.
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when you hear Laman,
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from the beginning,
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What's the question?
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There was a pause,
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pag nag-uusap kami,
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He's laughing, oh.
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pag nag-uusap kami,
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It's not, anyway, it was stupid.
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Take note guys, from Samoan, napagtiruan mo,
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ano, seryoso ka ba dyan sa The Melodies?
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So I called Melody the other day
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because I saw all the press that was coming out
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and I go, what the heck, how did we get all this press?
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He didn't even know we were signed with a label.
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Yeah, I didn't even know.
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So I called her, I go, who's this label?
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And she goes, we're signed with them.
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I go, I told you this.
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And I said, the first thing I said,
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wow, my label's not gonna like that.
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We mentioned it to him a while back.
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So I was like, so then I told her,
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I like what I'm reading.
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Can I do that with me?
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So, but, I mean, it's, what he said,
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when the music's good, you can't, you know,
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you can't not keep making it.
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And then we came to the point that we kept rehearsing
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and rehearsing, it's coming out of my ass already.
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But when we started playing, it's like,
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it's different when you finally play,
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you have all this energy and you don't know how,
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that's the thing, when you write a song,
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you hope it's good, but you can't tell
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until you do it in front of people.
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So, you know, people are enjoying it,
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they're dancing and that's all,
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that's all we do this for, right?
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So it was just good.
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So going back to my question,
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you, so you're really committed.
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Yeah, okay, that was the question.
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I could have just said yes.
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I have to go with this long ass.
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No, because when we're talking,
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I'm not joking, how's it gonna work?
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I don't know, it's Melody's band,
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I'm just there, she plays guitar.
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But honestly, even if it didn't work out,
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then she still wanted the songs to sound like they were,
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I would have totally just played it.
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I didn't have to be part of the band,
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I could have just been a guitarist.
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I'm not getting, what?
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You don't have to, what?
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Okay, okay, okay.
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We didn't know we were going to do all of this.
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Until last week, when we launched the one.
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You know why, the catalyst really,
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the catalyst is our friend Angelo.
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Yeah, shout out to Angelo Alonte, man.
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He co-produced the album.
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And he got us into this,
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access to this studio.
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because the quality of the recording.
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How many miles are you from Silver Lake?
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It'll take me an hour.
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You see Long Beach?
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I have to leave after lunch.
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Sorry, sorry, sorry.
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I mean, going to L.A. is like, it's normal to me already.
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You know, one hour, it's nothing.
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So Angelo, Silver Lake.
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But yeah, but I mean, he got us access to this,
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to some high-end equipment, you know.
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And that's why the drums sound amazing.
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Everything sounds amazing because we,
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we had access to these, these like.
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Microphones that cost thousands of dollars, man.
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German-made microphones, so.
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So that's why when we.
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Angelo believed in you guys.
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Oh my God, did he ever believe in us?
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We paid him a lot.
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He met the band last September.
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From that day onwards, he's been.
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Until now, until today, until right now.
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Until like this morning when I was texting him
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to do something for us.
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He doesn't respond to me anymore.
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I want to tell him something.
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I feel like you're avoiding me.
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But anyway, that was the catalyst of,
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of like, hey, we got something here.
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We have a chance to make,
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at the very least, a really good-sounding record.
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And it's different.
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The three of you believe in yourselves differently.
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But when there's an outsider who believes in you,
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it's different, right?
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Like, oh my God, someone's believing in us already.
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Aside from you guys.
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And the support that he's given us.
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I mean, why would we not grab it?
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And, you know, make the best out of what we can.
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Kasi nakakahiyan naman dun sa naniniwala sa'yo.
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Giving you all this access.
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And then we'll just be like, oh, whatever.
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Ksayang yung opportunity to record in that kind of studio.
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And then we're just gonna, what, come up with like,
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a B-plus, you know, effort na.
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A mediocre recording.
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That's, no, we can't do that.
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So, itong record label na binagit mo na ngayon.
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Lily Stars Records.
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I will follow you now.
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How did this come about?
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Robin and I want to know.
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Yeah, you guys are funny.
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Because you live far, eh.
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You're in Chicago, eh.
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It's hirap to make chismes with you.
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Clem and I were chatting.
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I don't know him personally.
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He knows my band back then.
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Clem is from Orange and Lemons.
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Orange and Lemons.
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Is he an orange or a lemon?
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He was the one who helped me get my banduria from the Philippines.
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So, that was our transaction.
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Basically, that's what we were talking about.
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And then, he said that I told him that I have a band we're recording right now.
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Sabi niya, yeah, I actually checked out your demo.
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That time, may demo pa kami.
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And sabi niya, if you guys like, I could help you.
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So, basically, he offered the label to support us if we like.
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During that time, he was talking to another bigger label.
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Because he and I were already trying to find out a way to how we could have the album distributed by some shape or form.
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Pero, he's doing his own thing.
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And then, Clem is telling me, I was going to go to another one that I know.
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But, he was the one who said.
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I said, you have not even heard of the other songs.
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He said, it doesn't matter.
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Uy, baka yung iba pinapakinggan muna niya.
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That's why he said.
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Ano ko lang yung bola ko lang yan.
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So, I told this guy.
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But, she didn't tell me.
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What's going on with your transaction with that big label?
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We're still chatting.
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This guy from Lily Stars.
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And, I gave him the catalogue.
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Because, Clem forwarded sa akin.
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Pinakita ko sa kanya.
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And, then it looked good.
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So, we had a Zoom chat with him.
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Na, mga June na to.
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And, then we just took the contract.
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And, then we made it clear.
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We made a great choice.
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And, we're glad that we signed up with them.
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So, may Philippines tour ba ito?
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We don't know yet.
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Why will you pay for it?
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Yeah, if they pay for us, why not.
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Well, I mean the goal right now is to really get laman heard to assign us.
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Doon ka magaling.
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Well, not really.
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Because I'm not in Philippines.
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That's why we need the Lily Stars.
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Ikaw, I've always been vocal about saying this, magaling ka talaga mag-market, lalo na noong nagkaroon ng social media, magaling ka talaga sa ganun.
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So, are you doing the same thing for...
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Oh yeah, well, yeah, you try your best with what you have, you know, on Instagram, on Facebook.
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You know, this, make it as interesting as possible in 15 seconds, you know.
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It's like, I mean, I don't have ADD, like young people have ADD right now, you know.
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But I have to dance in that world, I have to dance to that song.
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So, you know, there's like one hour in a day when I'm like...
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And then I'm like, oh, okay, that's enough.
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But you're the type who doesn't go back and look at it, eh.
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Ikaw, pag in-out mo na sa ether, done na yun, o binabalikan mo.
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Well, I check, you know, I check.
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There will be some inquiries sometimes and comments like, hey, how do we, you know, we don't want to miss that too, right?
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Social media, napaka-vocal nito sa social media, you guys deal with it?
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Well, I don't post on the band's socials, only on mine.
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My views are my views.
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And okay kayo ang dalawa ron?
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I don't care, that's his wall.
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I don't care, that's his wall.
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Isn't it supposed to be like that anyway, di ba?
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Where's not like that?
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Respect is the key.
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Yeah, so you post your own thing, that's whatever, you know.
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But you respect other people, don't be bastos.
31:33.0
So nga kayo tinanong ko siya, from Wolfgang to Three Headed Dogs, siya naman, si Robyn Nivera hanggang sa Naging Nivera, hanggang sa…
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What are my credentials?
31:48.0
Robyn Nivera to Nivera, ngayon entrepreneur ka, meron kang mga binabentang merch.
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Oh yeah, I like the white.
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Which one, the hoodie?
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The white hoodie, yeah.
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Love ko to eh, parang little brother ko rin to.
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I'll buy that one.
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Kaya alam mo na, pagkatapos ng Sugar Hiccup, after starting a family, did it ever occur to you na magbabanda ka ulit?
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No, I stopped for five years.
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I had a child after child after child after child after child, like six times.
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Yeah dude, and I stopped music for about five years because I have to raise those children, work.
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During that time, my husband was also in the service.
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Wala siya dito, he was out of state.
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So ikaw lang talaga.
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So kada uwi niya…
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Uy, meron na naman!
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Hindi ako nakapagpaputok sa Iraqi.
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But yeah, I stopped for five years and I didn't think that I would ever go back to playing.
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But in those five years, I would write snippets of songs, melodies in my head, lyrics, you know.
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So I call them mga parang pira-piraso.
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Because they're just, you know, whatever.
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A short verse, a chorus, a melody, lyrics, wala.
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And then eventually, I started playing again.
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Pero not really playing those new songs.
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It was more of like Sugar Hiccup catalogue and then I had Stella Snatch when I first came here.
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So I was doing that.
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And then for some reason, mga 2018, 2019, nagkaroon ako ng parang…
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Uy, biglang andami kong nasusulat.
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And again, this was before meeting.
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I didn't have in my head to form a band or collaborate or whatever.
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But I was playing with another band, you know, with Sugar Hiccup catalogue.
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And then I just kept them.
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I kept them on my phone.
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They're sitting on my phone.
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Been there for years.
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That's why when I collaborated with these guys,
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those music and songs are just gonna stay here on my phone until I die siguro.
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Kasi, you know, I might record it as an acoustic.
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But it's not gonna sound the way they're sounding now.
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So ano sinasabi ng husband mo ngayon?
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I wanna know what's in your head.
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I mean, I know you said it a while ago.
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But I'm just curious as to how you really thought these songs would come out.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ako rin.
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Sige, good question.
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Okay, so I have no idea lang kasi I just know that it's a pure verse-chorus-verse-chorus and then ending, diba?
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I know it's gonna come up.
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It's not very simple.
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It's not very simple.
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Ang ganda. Ang ganda eh.
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But these are the guys who painted colors to it.
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I just drew the outline.
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And all the songs, it's the same with Sugar Hiccup.
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Let's just go back there.
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Because right now, even two years ago, Zandro from Sugar Hiccup and I are still collaborating even though we're far.
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I would throw him a song, same raw demo.
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He would come back to me with the full music.
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And that's not in my head.
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When I'm writing a song, I'm like, whoa.
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And I think that's the...
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Yun yung excitement part.
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Yun yung excitement ko eh.
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Kasi parang, sige nga.
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Gawin mo nga ng kantayan.
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Gawin mo ng real, complete song.
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And then they come up with that beat, that guitar lick, and then whatever.
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I'm like, oh, wow.
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Because I'm used to being in a band that we get together, sit down, and rap your brain out until a song comes out.
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That's what I'm used to.
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So when I'm used to songwriting na talagang trabaho.
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Trabaho talaga when you finish songwriting.
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Kasi from nothing.
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Pero pag labas natin ng kwarto, kailangan may something.
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If there's a riff, it's like we have to finish this riff.
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Before the session ends.
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Ang hirap talaga.
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Ang hirap talaga.
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But that's what we got used to.
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Because there's nothing else to do.
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It's either that or you go to the movies.
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Yeah, they have time.
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I mean during those days.
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And this time around, it's great to have a songwriter.
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Actually two of them.
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And to have these.
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Because Robin has a song on the album too.
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Oh yeah, you should tell about that.
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So in the same fashion, he gave us his song.
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And it was just the drum beat and the guitars and the bass.
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It's a full song.
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Yeah, it's a whole thing.
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And then she put the words.
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She put her own lyrics and melodies.
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So music lang ang binagay mo.
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Binato niya sa amin.
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Like okay, I have this.
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And I listened to it right away.
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I'm like oh wow, okay.
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And I just started writing the words.
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And then after that, I had like a demo in my guitar.
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Kasi hindi naman ako pwede mag-record sa file niya.
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And I just threw it at them.
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Noong binato niya, Wolf, Robin.
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Noong binato ni Melody sayo.
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And he made some changes on some of the breaks.
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I mean, I don't like to write the same kind of song.
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So that song was just like, I was in the studio.
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I was recording one of my songs, Energy.
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And I hired a drummer.
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And he and I got close.
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Galing yung drummer.
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So he just went in the recording booth.
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And the sound guy left, Nick.
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He went to the bathroom.
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He went to get his food.
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And he just started playing.
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And I started playing.
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And then we recorded it.
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Then we finished the IDM.
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And then he was like, just, what are you going to do with it?
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I go, I don't know.
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It doesn't sound like it would make sense for my album.
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So I said, I'll just keep it.
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And then I showed it to them.
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And then she could put the words inside and everything.
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And then I completely forgot.
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I was gone for so long that when you guys sent me the demos,
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I go, what song is this?
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I even said, I like where the chords went.
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When I got to the last part, I go, oh, that's my part.
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So now you've heard both songwriters put something in the pot.
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And it came out with a finished product that is so different from how it came from.
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And for me, it's fun.
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It is so much fun to just add the color.
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Because the outlines, I don't do outlines.
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That's my frustration.
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I'm not an artist by hand, you know?
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But you're good at complementing the outline.
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Yeah, I know how to.
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Right away, I'll see colors.
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Right away, boom.
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I'll see arrangement.
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It's there right away.
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Before the day ends on that song, like Laman, when I first heard it,
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I already heard what this thing came out.
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Now, you hear it in your head.
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How close is it to what people hear when they stream?
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That's exactly what I, in my head, that's Laman.
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And that's far from what I thought the song would come out.
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When I first wrote it, that's not how I thought it would sound like.
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But it's perfect.
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And another shout-out, another person who's in the same wavelength as us,
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the guy who's mixing this thing is Diego Garrido.
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He was an engineer back in the 90s.
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And he engineered Semenilin, Wolfgang's second album.
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He did Beggar's Moon of Razorback.
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So, now he's in New Jersey, and he mixed it.
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This episode is brought to you by Dr. Lourdes Capulon.
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I'm just blown away how it sounds from him.
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Because we had another choice.
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We had so much other choices.
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Yeah, we had other choices.
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Of locals, you know, locals.
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Some of them were arrogant.
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It's like, I don't know who they are.
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Let's plug Diego.
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Diego Garrido of Belmar Underground.
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So, if other bands need people to mix—
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If you're in the Jersey Shore, in the New Jersey, New York area,
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look him up, Belmar Underground.
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And you, Robin, are you a sandbagger?
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How many songs did you sandbag in this band?
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What do you mean?
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It's a sandbagger.
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It's like, oh, this is mine.
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Oh, this is mine.
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Oh, this is Melody's.
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I didn't intend on giving it to them.
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I was just like, I came back the next rehearsal,
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I have words left for the song.
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You know, I didn't know.
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But it worked out.
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But are you now proactively writing for the Melody's?
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No, I don't think like that.
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I don't even write thinking for me.
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I just want to write.
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And then, you know, if it's a song just for me,
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I'll keep it, write to it, and then if I'm sick of it,
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then I'll bring it to them one day,
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or I'll give it to someone else who might think better of it.
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But the whole purpose is just write something,
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you know what I mean?
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It doesn't have to be for the next single.
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It can be for a movie.
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It can be for anything.
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Talk to me about that, the writing process,
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including you, Melody.
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Because you said all of a sudden,
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you wrote a lot and all that, right?
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You're good at writing.
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What activity do you do to sharpen it?
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Do you guys stop?
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Do you have days where you stop writing?
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You said earlier that it's just bits and pieces.
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You said, this can be a movie, this can be this.
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What's your writing process?
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And then I'll get to you.
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Mine is, I think I'm seasonal.
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So sometimes I won't be able to write.
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But when I do write, I can write like 10 songs in a week.
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And I won't finish any of them.
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They're all just ideas that you either put together.
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And is that okay?
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For me, my rule with any band is,
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I won't say no to your idea.
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I'll see how I can put that into my idea.
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So that's how I think with other bands or other people.
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It has to be like that.
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Because that's how you make something out of nothing.
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How about you, Melody?
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Like, the writing part.
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Family, kids are kind of big now.
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But now, it's all overflowing.
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Is it an ongoing thing?
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Right now, I'm noticing that it's ongoing.
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For like, knock on wood, since 2018.
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And it happens when I just pick up a guitar.
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I would just strum various random chords.
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And then, ooh, that sounds good.
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And then I'll move along.
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And then a melody would pop up.
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And then, the way I write songs,
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is that it would be the melodies first.
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It's very hard for me to write lyrics and then put melody into it.
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It has to be the melodies first.
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And then, it's the same how I wrote Laman.
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I would, you know, randomly, you know, like gibberish.
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Like placeholders.
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And then I would like, you know,
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and then a word would drop that say, hold.
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And it would swap to that note.
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And I can build a sentence that has hold.
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And then I'll make a story out of that.
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I'm just like that.
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But sometimes, in the beginning, I already have words.
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And then I just write them on my notes.
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And I'll get back to it.
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Lately, I've been able to write a song, like, within 24 hours.
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Meaning, in the morning, I'll start it.
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I mean, because sometimes…
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This is crazy, man.
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That's why, you know, melodies are okay.
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Because they're in very creative states, both of them.
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And I am just in search of people like that all the time.
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Like, give it to me.
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And, you know, I'll do my thing or whatever.
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But then, I would have concepts in my head.
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And I would text it to her.
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It's like, can you write a song like this and like this and like that?
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You know, with lyrics like this and with a style of like this and like that.
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And then, you know, in my head, I'd be like, okay, in a week, she'll have something in a week.
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Yeah, no deadline.
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But in my head, you know, in my head, I'm expecting it in a week.
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I'm like literally an hour later.
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I'm like, wait a minute.
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This is the whole thing.
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And then, I'd read it.
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And then, she would send a copy of her with the acoustic guitar singing the thing already.
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I'm like, holy shit.
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And she did it three times.
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So, it's like, okay, she's on a roll.
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So, I keep telling her, it's like, just keep writing.
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Tagalog or English.
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Whatever comes out, that comes out.
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And then, we'll just separate whatever, you know?
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Organize it the way it's supposed to be on albums or whatever.
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But when a songwriter, an artist is on a roll, is being, like we were talking about being transmitters and all of that.
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You know, you take advantage of that because that's not forever.
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Dun sa part naman na, okay.
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Siya ang unang frontman mo na.
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Can I use the bathroom?
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We'll go on a break and then we'll be back with the melodies.
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Matutugin mo muna yung laman.
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Before he comes up with a big question.
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It's a forty-five though.
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Forty-five minutes.
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Everybody drink water.
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I'll still record pa rin.
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Just keep it running.
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I'll just get my water.
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Forty-five seconds.
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Uy, pakulagay mo yung length ng song namin.
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We have a QR code.
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I'll pass it to you.
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I'll pass it to you or to Mike?
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To Mike or to me.
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It doesn't matter.
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Sa thumbnail, lagay natin yung QR code.
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Para yung thumbnail pa lang, no?
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Sa TV, pwede din lang kami.
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Yeah, because we have a picture in the...
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Sa thumbnail, di ba?
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So, ang gagawin ko, when we start the...
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Mike, when we start the video, di ba?
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Kasi nilalagay ko talaga yung QR code.
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So, if you're watching it on a big screen TV,
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And I didn't realize this until I was talking to Mike kanina.
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Maganda pala yung timing namin
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because Lamant just launched last week.
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So, this is a good thing.
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Hindi, ito, i-edit ko kaagad.
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Tapos, tapos natin to.
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Full-time job ko na to.
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Although, we'll need the QR code.
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Thank you pa ako, ah.
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Thank you sa inyo.
47:42.0
Thank you sa inyo.
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Sobrang, sobrang wow.
47:51.0
Can I use the bathtub?
47:52.0
Oh, you really need to use the bathtub?
47:57.0
Ayaw, ganda rin ako pa rin.
47:59.0
And then, mami, I just press the FTV again, right?
48:10.0
And then, just put a note sa, sa ano.
48:15.0
Oh, when we resume.
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I got a message from your team.
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Napuputol ka sa ano.
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Napuputol ka sa screen.
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But you heard the recorded version, right?
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Kasi baka yung demo na pinakinggam mo.
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Hindi na ba si J.J. wala pa?
49:27.0
Hindi, dapat naka-ano.
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Hindi ka ginigin.
49:48.0
You wanna move this white wire that's been there this whole time?
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I was looking at the screen and I was like, yikes, that's gonna be annoying.
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I'm gonna comment on that all day.
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Look at that white wire.
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And the podcast will resume in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.
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And we are back with The Melodies.
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So, hopefully nakita nila yun.
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Hopefully, clinic niyo yung QR code nung nag-commercial break kami
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para napakinggan niyo yung kanta.
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But, okay tama, di ba alam yung QR code habang nag-PP ka?
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I still didn't know about it.
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I texted you about that yesterday.
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Okay, bago ka nag-commercial break, gusto ko tanong yan.
50:37.0
Siya ba unang singer na babae that you've worked with?
50:41.0
Oh yeah, for sure.
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Sorry, I thought you were gonna ask me.
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Might as well ask him.
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How about you, Robin?
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I've worked with a lot of singers.
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How about you, Robin?
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I've worked with women.
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So, Melody Basti.
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O nga, si Ryan, no?
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You remember Ryan?
51:26.0
How does Melody stand out?
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Of course, naman.
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I mean, from before pa naman, Sugar Hiccup, everyone knows who she is.
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Pero still, dahil sa paglalagay mo ng kulay, tinanggal mo rin siya sa comfort zone niya sa style mo.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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O siya muna, tapos ikaw.
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Actually, the other day, I texted her, I want to challenge you.
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I want to challenge you to write a song with these Wolfgang rhythms, beats.
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So, I gave her mga obscure songs ng Wolfgang that I like, my personal favorites.
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So, it's like, you listen to that, and then you see where I'm coming from, what I can do.
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If it does anything. Kung wala, wala.
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Hindi ka naman may pressure.
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No, no, no, not at all.
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I'm just interested in what, if anything comes out of it, that's what I'm interested in.
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And that's the dynamic of this band right now.
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It's like, this is what I can give you.
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I don't write songs on a guitar, but here, this is my style.
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These are the unpopular songs of Wolfgang, but my favorite songs of Wolfgang.
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So, listen to what I, how I express myself.
52:48.0
Ikaw naman, pag gumaganon si Wolf, anong dating sa'yo?
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Napapabuntong hindi nga ka ba, okay, roll up my sleeves, let's go.
52:56.0
No, I don't think so. He asked me one song, a theme, type of a song.
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Pwede siya naggawa ako, hindi ko nga akala. Binatok ko sa kanya the next day.
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Ang napapansin ko naman sa inyo, pag nagbabatuha kayo ng kanta, confident kayo na pag dumating tong si Robin.
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Lalag-e-embellish.
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That's why he's not even included on the threads of the messages.
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That's why it's like...
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No, he's just gonna show up and then don't pay.
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On our part, it's also on our part na we don't tell him because we take it for granted.
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But in our hearts, it's automatic.
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We know that he's gonna put something on there that's gonna compliment it.
53:32.0
Yeah, it's not gonna be a problem.
53:34.0
Like ginamit namin si Robin nung nandito si...
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We're already imagining him as, you know...
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Ang problema sa kanya, kay Robin, nung nandito si Geneva para mag-live,
53:45.0
we played K-Land twice.
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One, yung performance. The other one was the safety.
53:52.0
Parehong iba yung pagtutog niya.
53:55.0
So ang naging problema, alin Robin track ang gagamitin dun sa...
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Ikaw naman, is it a curse or is it an asset na ganun ka mag-guitara na nakakalimutan mo?
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Well, there's so many ways I can answer it.
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I'm just trying to find the more PG answer.
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The correct answer is, it's like sex.
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It feels good every time, but it's different every time you get there.
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What's the PG-13?
54:32.0
Hindi, pero so para laman.
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So, when you really listen to laman, or listen to any of my tracks,
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we'll do it laman because I heard all the tracks.
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They're all there.
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You just have to focus on one of them.
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And here's like six things.
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But that's also how I record.
54:51.0
I told him, he was like, let's do the solo first because that will take forever for me.
54:57.0
I always have different ideas.
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There's some things that I like and then I forget about it.
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Is it hard for you to commit?
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Yeah, that's why I wanted to be present when he did guitar solos.
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It's also why I didn't want to do it with him.
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It's like, no, you can't do that.
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It's like, or it's not enough.
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I needed to guide him.
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Because if no one's there to guide me, I'll make 100 tracks on one thing.
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And then he would not know which one to.
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And then the guy would be like, that's a lot of tracks.
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The one I liked was 77, he picked two.
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You know what I mean?
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But on the other hand, he is good at the magic stuff.
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And there is the more variety of magic stuff he gives us, the better.
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Because it's a variety.
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Solo, it's just a variation of the same thing, right?
55:50.0
But if it's like the magic stuff, and then he has five different tracks of different things,
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you have, you know, there's just more paint to work with on a painting, you know?
56:01.0
Or to not work with all of them, maybe just one.
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So, it's a very interesting process.
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Speaking of process, disagreements.
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How do you deal with that?
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I had a joke answer, I won't say it.
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We've had some, not really disagreements, I think it's just...
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How do we say this?
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Type it, he won't type it.
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It's never, I don't like that.
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Can you try this?
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Example, I sent him a song in Tagalog last week.
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I just wrote it within a day.
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I just asked him, what do you think of this?
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Then he said, oh, he has a comment.
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Oh yeah, I had comments.
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Was that favorable to the song?
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And then it was like, okay, here we go, we gotta do this, we're in a band.
57:00.0
You know, you have to.
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Wait, wait, wait, expound on that.
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Because there are other bands that glaze over it because they don't want to offend the band member.
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And I'm sure he was very careful with his text that day.
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Because being seasoned, you know, this is the territory, this is the part of being part of a band
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that you have to be careful because it could make or break a relationship in the band.
57:28.0
Yeah, and you have to be clear with what you want.
57:32.0
That's more it than not offending the person.
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It's like you want to, for me, in the smallest, in the least amount of text possible to send each other,
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I want to make my point across.
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Being real with no offense included, but this is what I think of it again.
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So, how? You sent him a song?
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Yeah, I sent him a song.
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Excitedly, correct?
57:58.0
Well, I'm excited because it's another Tagalog song.
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Of course, he's your baby.
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But the thing is, I appreciated his comments.
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Wait, let's talk about this first.
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Wait, don't say that to me.
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Okay, so he arrived.
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Well, I had come...
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No, you listened to it first, right?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And then I was like...
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It was just to maybe change the beat of what she was playing on guitar.
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Because I was hearing something different from what she was hearing.
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So, I don't even remember anymore.
58:34.0
She'll remember more because...
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Yeah, she's receiving end of my criticism.
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Sorry, it's in her inbox.
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It's nothing negative, you know, it's just how I felt about it.
58:46.0
Because I don't want to...
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It's like, in every band that I had, I was in, it's like every song was precious.
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You can't just...
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You can't just...
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You can't just...
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Yeah, it's like, let's make use of this, man.
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And let's not beat around the bush.
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If it's not working, on to the next song.
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It's like, if it's not working, and it's happened many, many times before with Wolfgang,
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it's just one song that doesn't really work.
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No matter what we do, nothing's happening.
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We're like, okay, let's let that go.
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And then, so, yeah.
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So, the next more send.
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You'll receive it.
59:34.0
My text tone isn't like that.
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Wolf has texted you.
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I'm just kidding.
59:41.0
Okay, so what did you receive?
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Were you expecting something?
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No, I wasn't expecting any approval, but more of like a feedback.
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So, you're ready for any feedback?
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And then, when I saw that, I'm like, okay.
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I said, okay, yeah, that's fine.
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But then, I kept the song.
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This episode is brought to you by ABBA E-Services.
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Because his suggestion was, you know, maybe we could change the beat.
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It's not necessarily a tapon, but then again, we can try it.
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And if it doesn't work, I have a Tagalog song.
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You know, ready for whenever, whatever.
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Maybe a year or two, we can get back to it, you know, if we're still a band.
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Are you stoic in being...
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Are you a pragmatist?
60:26.0
Well, not really.
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I'm just saying, I'm going to die tomorrow.
60:29.0
Don't be like that.
60:30.0
You know, this year, we don't have any band members, right?
60:34.0
No, no, and that happened with Sugar Hiccup.
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I'm just going to tell his story.
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We had a song we wrote for the first album.
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It did not pass the first album.
60:44.0
We tried to rewrite it for the second album.
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It did not work for the second album.
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And only to find out, in 2020, we released the single, this specific song.
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In 2020, during pandemic, when we rearranged it, and then it came out with a video.
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So, we're talking about a song that...
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Yeah, decades old.
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And then the third time was a charm.
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So, there's really a timing.
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It's timing, it's, you know, the energy that you're surrounded with.
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Like what happened, it's like that.
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And if she doesn't like what I said, then she doesn't have to...
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We don't have to work on it, you know?
61:25.0
There's no peacock's heart, man.
61:29.0
Oh, are you the peacock's heart?
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Do you get offended?
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Do you get offended when people criticize your songs?
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Do you know what peacock's heart means?
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Like your soft heart, your softy.
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Yeah, I don't think Rob's like that.
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He just says it's ugly.
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Even if you liked it, I'll forget about it.
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It's like it doesn't matter.
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It's not important.
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But it's just, you know, if you don't like it, you don't have to...
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I'm not in love with all my licks.
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You know what I mean?
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For me, because my rule is when I sing, especially a chorus,
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I'll come up with the chorus, even if it's just the melody,
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and then after I sing it over and over again,
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same with a lick.
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You just hum it, just whatever.
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Do it as long as you want, and then stop.
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Don't do it for 24 hours.
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Do whatever you want.
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Work, gym, I don't care.
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Don't talk about music.
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Don't even think about the lick.
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If I can recall it after 24 hours,
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then it's worth building.
62:29.0
Yeah, especially from someone like you.
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Especially if it's a chorus.
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That's why I like to...
62:34.0
Who keeps forgetting stuff.
62:35.0
Yeah, but if I remember it, then that means I was able to sing it.
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Which means you'll remember it if it had words and stuff.
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So that's my little rule.
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And that's why if you don't like the idea,
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I'll be like, okay, great.
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Let me find another one.
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It also challenges me to be like,
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well, what do you like?
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Because I try to find out what you like.
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So that's also another way to do it.
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Yeah, and it's an advantage when you have prolific songwriters.
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Because, okay, you don't like that?
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Maybe you like this one.
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Oh, you don't like that?
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Well, I got this one too.
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That's how we started.
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She had ten of those.
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This one's called Laman.
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This one's called Lidlang.
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This one's Unbecoming.
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So you guys spoke before we all met that day?
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Those are all the songs you had since?
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So when we met, we already had those, I guess, five songs or six songs.
63:35.0
Yeah, five or six.
63:36.0
Yeah, five or six.
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And then I just started introducing the other ones that I wrote later on.
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So when you see that these songs are coming to life,
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You know, Paco, like I said earlier,
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if not for these guys, if not for this collaboration,
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the songs will just be buried in my thoughts.
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That's it, right?
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Otherwise, I could record.
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My plan was, if I was not collaborating with anybody,
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was to record it as an acoustic.
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I was going to come up with an unplugged or acoustic album.
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It's just me and the acoustic songs.
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You know, whatever.
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And plain, right?
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So i-upload ko sa Spotify, YouTube, that's it.
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But with these guys and this collaboration,
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it was talagang grabe yung nabuhay yung songs.
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And it has all songs or each song has their own persona
64:38.0
because of how they painted and how they wrote their music into it.
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And I could not ever in my mind would imagine that that would be the outcome
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of this acoustic demo in my song.
64:58.0
So, I'm so overwhelmed and very grateful actually with these guys.
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Well, I mean, going back to that thing, the back and forth,
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the criticisms or whatever.
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With whatever, if that last one, if that doesn't work out,
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there were three before that that were amazing that I already can tell.
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It's like when we record these three songs, it's like it's going to be,
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I mean, it's going to be another level for us.
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You know, of songwriting, arranging, recording, the art of recording
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because I know we got spoiled with this studio that we played in.
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This is the bar, this is the recording we have now.
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We have to sound like this or better, you know, in the future.
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Yung live performances, like with this guy.
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And another shout out to our live session player, Phil Recto.
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Phil Recto on bass.
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Oh, what a wonderful, great, kick-ass bass player.
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Sobrang pasok na pasok.
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Actually, si Phil, kasi I promised to be at your gig, hindi ako nakasipot.
66:18.0
Ang salbahay sakin si Phil.
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Phil really, you know, talagang no pun intended, mails me.
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Talagang magbe-message privately.
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What happened to you, dude?
66:28.0
He's going to call you out.
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Oh, gano'n siya sana.
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Phil is such a sweetheart.
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So yeah, he's doing a good job.
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Ito, ito, live playing niyo.
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So, do you have to make concessions?
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Kasi siya, layo ng bahay niya.
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So, what's working right now is that, you know, we would tell him, you know, a future gig.
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And then we'll be asking him if he's in town.
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And he'll say, no, I'm not.
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So then, you know, hindi kami makatutog.
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Or we'll probably ask the organizer.
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In this case, it was Lak-Lak Fest.
67:02.0
Glenn had two dates.
67:04.0
So, it was the first date, the 22nd, and he was inviting us.
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But he won't make it.
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But he said he will be here the following week.
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So, I texted Glenn and said, hey, can we just play on this date?
67:14.0
Because Rob is going to be here.
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And he said, yes.
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So, you know, we can make arrangements like that.
67:19.0
And then, like, for example, we have a project that I'm working on next year.
67:26.0
Ngayon palang sinasabi ko na sa kanila, what are your block of dates from this month to this month?
67:31.0
Talaga logistics pala.
67:32.0
Communication about logistics is very important.
67:35.0
Because, you know, I have to commit to that event organizer.
67:39.0
And if I say, yes, I have to let these guys know this is the tentative play date or month or whatever.
67:47.0
You gotta let me know now.
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And next year pa yun.
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So, syempre we have a lot of time to prepare for that.
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Ito naman, yung Lak-Lak Fest.
67:54.0
Binanggit mo yung Lak-Lak Fest.
67:56.0
Ito yung first Lak-Lak Fest ng The Melodies?
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It was fun because we had a lot of our tribe was there.
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So, and we had support from the other bands.
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You know, everyone was friendly with one another, giving each other support, you know.
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So, the vibe was good.
68:17.0
Glenn looks like he's a member of ZZ Top now.
68:22.0
I didn't recognize him.
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I was like, who's this Glenn?
68:29.0
But yeah, everyone was into it.
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Everyone was good vibes and we played really well.
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Yeah, it was a great show.
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And you know, to play these songs live is really, it's something else.
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It's fun, you know.
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So, we just, man, if you could just hear the other songs already, my God.
68:51.0
When are we going to hear the whole album?
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Is it out, the whole album?
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No, no, no, early spring next year.
68:59.0
Our second song, single, is going to come out after the holidays.
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It's running. You've heard running before.
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So, that's going to be our second single.
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We're targeting maybe sometime January, late January.
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Who plans this? Kayo Reb?
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Well, we're working with Lily Stars on this.
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The label right now is giving us hard deadlines.
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Like, Clem is very good on that.
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Let's talk about hard deadlines.
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Grabe. Sabi ko nga, sabi ko sa group text.
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It's like we're back in college, man.
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So much assignment. Andami homework pa.
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Pero, I mean, that's what you gotta do.
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It's really the basics of everything that you gotta do if you're seriously doing it.
69:41.0
Yun yung keyword, eh. If you are seriously doing this.
69:46.0
And the thing is, in return, Lily Stars are also serious.
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And you see it the way they present us, the way they have the QR code for us.
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Everything. The whole shebang.
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Like a professional band.
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But what you see on the Instagram of a pro band, we have it because of Lily Stars.
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So, it's a good collaboration.
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Sa mga startup bands, kasi tayo ipaka-old school.
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Naka-album tayo, tayong apat.
70:21.0
May mga ibang artists dyan, ang route na ginawa nila is the whole indie thing.
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Singles, walang album. Diretso.
70:29.0
Yeah, but then again, tayong apat nag-start tayo ng albums, eh.
70:34.0
Sa mga bagong artists, whether solo or bands,
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na ang mentality nila is, I need to be on a label.
70:47.0
Is it still relevant?
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You want to answer that?
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Yeah, because you're in that state right now.
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Apparently I have a label.
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And it's with you guys.
70:59.0
Well, it's a good question because I have nothing bad to say about Lily Star.
71:10.0
I've been saying really great things about them.
71:13.0
They're good labels. They're great labels.
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I'm not even going to say the word label.
71:17.0
I'm just going to say that people pick favorites.
71:19.0
People want to go with someone that works as compared to something new.
71:26.0
You know what I mean?
71:27.0
So like, as just me, Nivera or Robin Nivera,
71:31.0
it's difficult because I try very hard to not sound like anybody.
71:38.0
I try to make the music as vibey as I can.
71:43.0
But I still, if you tell me it sounds like John Mayer or Ben & Ben or something,
71:48.0
I'll be like, okay, then I'm going to change 90% of it now.
71:52.0
Yeah, because I want it to sound like me.
71:54.0
Why would other people—
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Why would what people say affect you?
71:59.0
Oh, good question.
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They wouldn't say anything because everybody has nice things to say.
72:03.0
You're talented. I've never heard anything like this.
72:06.0
This is my favorite. It sounds so international.
72:09.0
That's my favorite. That was the name of my next album.
72:12.0
So International.
72:14.0
It sounds so international.
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That's my favorite, Manila.
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All the labels back home. That's my favorite thing to say.
72:21.0
It's too international.
72:23.0
But you won't push the song. You won't push it.
72:26.0
It's like, we'll have it out. It's easy to get a song out.
72:29.0
But it's to get people to listen to it, you know what I mean?
72:32.0
And then I'm the wrong Nivera.
72:36.0
Of course it's not true.
72:37.0
You're the different Nivera.
72:39.0
But when you type down Nivera or Robin Nivera,
72:42.0
no matter how many times I tell you what my song is,
72:44.0
you'll forget about it because there's a gajillion songs
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before you get to my brand new zero hits.
72:51.0
To be honest, I'm fighting against millions of viewers
72:54.0
and algorithms just so you can find me.
72:57.0
So it's tricky at that part.
73:00.0
I have no problem with the melodies. I'm with them.
73:03.0
You know, they have their followings
73:05.0
and the people that follow Sugar Hiccup and Wolfgang
73:07.0
and all that, they're personal fans.
73:09.0
My fans are titos and titas, dude.
73:13.0
You mentioned that to me.
73:15.0
If I brought the melodies into a producer friend of my mom and dad's,
73:20.0
that would be the weirdest gig.
73:22.0
That will be the weirdest gig.
73:23.0
During our gig, our set,
73:25.0
I was telling them in Noipits.
73:28.0
This is hilarious and this has never happened to me before.
73:31.0
There's a birthday party in the corner of Noipits,
73:33.0
which is fine, right?
73:35.0
We're playing loud music.
73:36.0
If you've ever heard Laman, you hear this a bit.
73:40.0
It's very, you have a drink in your hand, you know, dance.
73:43.0
This tita comes to me with her birthday hat.
73:48.0
It's her tiara, yes.
73:49.0
She comes to me with a camera guy.
73:52.0
She's the center.
73:54.0
All the pictures, I'm very far.
73:56.0
I'm very far away.
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I had my own little area on that stage.
74:00.0
She went to me and she's trying to get my attention.
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I'm playing, dude.
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She's trying to get my attention like this.
74:06.0
She finally gets it.
74:07.0
She goes, smile, huh?
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Then she turns around, takes a picture of me while I'm freaking
74:12.0
in the middle of a guitar solo.
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I was like, this is why it's so hard.
74:17.0
But at least you have fans.
74:19.0
That's not my fans.
74:20.0
She didn't know which Jimbara I was.
74:22.0
For sure she was going, Ram, Ram, Ram.
74:25.0
You know what I mean?
74:26.0
People do that outside.
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I could hear the girl in the back.
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She goes, I know that.
74:35.0
And then she gets the courage to go, Ram.
74:40.0
And then I go, oh, I really like that.
74:44.0
This is it, this is it.
74:45.0
And then her friend goes, I think that's Robert.
74:48.0
She goes, ah, yeah, I know you.
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I love it all the time.
74:58.0
But you know, he's that rock star too.
75:00.0
Kasi we come in at Noy Pits and I hear these people,
75:03.0
oy, anak niya, that's the Rivera, ganyan yung ganyan.
75:09.0
At saka shredder to.
75:11.0
Magaling mag-guitara to.
75:14.0
The way Robin plays guitar is.
75:17.0
He's so international.
75:23.0
Very good, very good.
75:24.0
That's my next shirt.
75:26.0
Oh my God, I'm so making that shirt.
75:28.0
What's good about it is I have some people,
75:32.0
they comment on Facebook, whatever,
75:35.0
when they realize who he is and where he's from.
75:38.0
I like the article, by the way.
75:40.0
It says, and Rivera in brackets.
75:43.0
That's what he wants to be called now.
75:49.0
I was like, oh wow.
75:50.0
And it has all their credentials,
75:52.0
former singer, a former drummer of,
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and that's what he wants to be known as now.
76:00.0
Hindi mo lang binagit na VJ ka ng Wish,
76:03.0
maka ganon-ganon?
76:04.0
I don't put that on my resume anymore.
76:07.0
I mean, I love those people,
76:08.0
but none of those jobs, Mix or Wish,
76:12.0
none of them helped with my singing or my playing.
76:16.0
I had the best platform.
76:18.0
When I was with Mix,
76:20.0
people wanted to be my friend because
76:22.0
you wanted to come out on Daily Top Ten.
76:24.0
Then on Wish, obviously,
76:25.0
everyone wanted to come with a bus.
76:27.0
But I was, I don't know.
76:29.0
I mean, aside from when we shot,
76:32.0
we shot ka sa Laman and Run,
76:35.0
and we shot it on Wish, like, what, a week ago.
76:38.0
And I was like, you know what, I have a song out too.
76:41.0
I might as well sing my shot on Wish too.
76:44.0
So this is my first time,
76:46.0
maybe Blue Jean Junkies.
76:48.0
I have one with him.
76:51.0
I don't really have a Nirvera track on Wish.
76:55.0
And I was there every day, every single day.
76:58.0
Pero kasi this is your best platform.
77:03.0
But, I mean, remember,
77:04.0
this is not about getting Nirvera out there.
77:07.0
I just want to play.
77:09.0
Pero maganda sa akin yung reluctancy niya.
77:11.0
Like, this is not about getting Nirvera out there.
77:14.0
Oh, I'm not sure if I'm really going to be
77:16.0
the permanent guitar player for this band
77:18.0
because it's Melody's band.
77:19.0
Oh, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
77:20.0
Lahat ng reluctancy mo, ano eh.
77:23.0
Bullshit lahat because you're still here.
77:27.0
Nakikilala ka, di ba?
77:29.0
You're as committed as...
77:32.0
That's, you know, that has to be,
77:34.0
for any musician out there.
77:35.0
Feeling ko makikilala siya as Nirvera dito sa Melody's.
77:38.0
It's very hard to form a band, man.
77:41.0
It's hard. It's so hard.
77:42.0
I mean, when we first started,
77:44.0
when we first started,
77:46.0
we don't really know the direction where the band is going.
77:51.0
We know we have songs.
77:52.0
We've been honing them.
77:54.0
But then, really, it was Angelo.
77:56.0
Just like how Clem gave us direction,
77:59.0
how to push to release the songs and all that.
78:03.0
Angelo gave us the direction.
78:05.0
Record na yan. Record na yan.
78:07.0
And then I have the studio.
78:08.0
Get on the studio. Di ba?
78:10.0
So okay, that's where we're gonna go.
78:12.0
And then we just pushed ourselves to honing the songs.
78:16.0
And then maybe write more songs.
78:18.0
Kasi pag may live shows,
78:19.0
di ba, hindi man pwedeng lima lang yung tugtogin natin.
78:22.0
Yeah, this band exists right now.
78:27.0
I would say 90% because of the help of other people.
78:31.0
From the kindness of other people.
78:33.0
That's why this band exists.
78:36.0
10% is us shelling out our money,
78:38.0
our time, effort, whatever.
78:40.0
But 90% it's other people who have said,
78:43.0
You guys have something here.
78:45.0
I have access to something.
78:47.0
I'll help you out.
78:49.0
So for Filipinos, it's like that saying,
78:53.0
Sa Diyos ang awa, sa taong gawa.
78:56.0
So to me, when stuff like that happens,
78:58.0
that's the Diyos may awa, yung Diyos.
79:00.0
Now it's your turn.
79:02.0
You gotta do something.
79:03.0
I mean, Angelo has this studio.
79:05.0
What are we gonna do?
79:06.0
We're gonna record all of these songs.
79:09.0
We're gonna find a way how we're gonna do it.
79:12.0
So it's like, especially now,
79:15.0
na we have all this experience from our past, whatever,
79:20.0
you don't want to take it for granted anymore.
79:25.0
So it's like every song that is workable,
79:31.0
And just to remind you and everybody watching,
79:36.0
although we have a past or a history of our catalogue,
79:44.0
how we came to this point,
79:47.0
we're not really riding on that.
79:49.0
We are a new band.
79:51.0
We're just a startup new band that just happened.
79:55.0
We have songs with all these good people.
79:58.0
Yeah, we are complete strangers.
80:00.0
We're not saying, oh, kasi diba like what Robin is saying,
80:03.0
he's not, oh, I'm Wolf from Wolfgang.
80:06.0
He's Wolf. Whatever.
80:08.0
I'm always smart in hip-hop.
80:12.0
Yeah, that's true.
80:13.0
But yeah, we're a new band.
80:15.0
We just started and we just released a song, a single.
80:19.0
We're still recording for our first album.
80:21.0
We're a new band. We're nobody.
80:25.0
We're struggling, just like any other band out there.
80:27.0
We're just where I was.
80:30.0
We're making the best out of it and having fun because it's fun.
80:36.0
Yeah, it's working.
80:37.0
And we're getting along.
80:39.0
The music that's coming out from each other's creativity is clicking.
80:45.0
And if you notice, we're also from different genres.
80:48.0
Pero ang masaya lang, we have a common ground.
80:52.0
We feel like we're safe.
80:55.0
And then some, like him or like me, I have to get out of my comfort zone sometimes.
81:01.0
Pero si Robin can play whatever.
81:03.0
Pasok mo siya d'yan, A, B or C pocket, D or E.
81:09.0
Kaya we don't have a problem with him.
81:11.0
He's a shapeshifter.
81:12.0
Pero like for me, it's hard for me sometimes to adjust,
81:16.0
even the singing, the way of singing.
81:18.0
This is not how I sing with Sugar Hiccup.
81:20.0
This is not how he plays drums with Wolfgang or whatever.
81:24.0
So this is a new band.
81:26.0
We are just starting as a new band.
81:28.0
And we're nobodies.
81:29.0
We're just here to play.
81:33.0
And before we go, sorry.
81:38.0
Yeah, there's something.
81:39.0
Hold that thought.
81:45.0
I mean, the people who've helped this band are not just people who are friends or whatever,
81:55.0
Because we had a fundraiser, a GoFundMe thing.
82:05.0
You're giving money to a politician.
82:08.0
It's just like that.
82:10.0
That's how politicians get their funding.
82:17.0
So you have to ask for money.
82:19.0
But the fans came out, the people who gave money,
82:23.0
and it pretty much paid for the filming of a live show that we did at The Mint.
82:29.0
We're gonna release that soon.
82:32.0
And then paid for the mixing of this album.
82:39.0
I was in this party the other night and I met this guy.
82:43.0
And we were talking about music.
82:45.0
And then I told him, he goes,
82:49.0
So what are you, man? Are you a musician?
82:53.0
And then I said, my band single is coming out at midnight.
82:57.0
And then he goes, Oh, well, shit, man.
83:00.0
So I gave him Spotify or whatever.
83:04.0
And then we got to talking about music.
83:07.0
And then, I'm losing my thought here.
83:13.0
Your friends and family, their help and all that.
83:18.0
So I told him about that, the fundraiser and all that.
83:22.0
And he said something, he goes,
83:25.0
Shit, man, the tribe really came through for you.
83:32.0
And I go, You're right.
83:38.0
It's all Pinoys who gave to this thing.
83:42.0
The tribe came out to help us.
83:45.0
And so it's up to us to fucking deliver a really good album.
83:53.0
So that people's faith in us won't be in vain.
83:58.0
You know, it's beautiful.
83:59.0
That's why I'm looking.
84:00.0
Because what you have is humility and gratitude.
84:07.0
Very, very grateful.
84:08.0
We are very grateful.
84:11.0
The fact that we're here, that means,
84:14.0
I mean, we're doing this step at a time.
84:17.0
I mean, right now we're just happy and celebrating we have a single out.
84:21.0
It's just fun, right?
84:22.0
I mean, how often would you find out a band who's starting up
84:26.0
and then now the quality of the recording is good
84:29.0
and we're actually in the middle of mixing for a full-length album.
84:33.0
A label who trusted us, even without listening to the songs.
84:40.0
The guy who invited us to record in his studio just because he saw us play four songs.
84:46.0
People who donated.
84:48.0
Thank you, by the way, for those who donated in GoFundMe
84:51.0
and even outside GoFundMe who actually donated more.
84:55.0
That helped us to pay for everything that we're doing right now to release the album.
85:02.0
We're so very grateful.
85:03.0
It's amazing. It's an amazing thing.
85:04.0
And it's an amazing thing to happen during these times where there are so many people.
85:11.0
So we are first-hand experiencing love on a very basic level.
85:18.0
It's like, we believe in you, here's some money, make your album.
85:22.0
Which means the vibe, the energy, it's good to give to others.
85:25.0
Oh my God, it's just positive, man.
85:27.0
It's just like, you know?
85:29.0
So that's why you can hear it in the recording, the music.
85:32.0
Even when Diego mixes it, he can feel the passion in the music.
85:37.0
That's why he's always commenting when we have a group chat,
85:40.0
he's always like, guys, his latest text was like,
85:43.0
you guys have to record in my studio because I want to work with you.
85:47.0
Now he's inviting us to record in his studio.
85:50.0
And we have songs for the next album.
85:52.0
You said that, Diego.
85:57.0
Well, we just got the news, too.
85:59.0
Yeah, dude, we just found out about it.
86:01.0
But I mean, you know, they feel the passion in the recording.
86:08.0
They know, okay, this is the real deal.
86:10.0
These guys are serious.
86:12.0
They're serious musicians.
86:13.0
They know what they're doing.
86:15.0
Their standards are high.
86:18.0
They feel all of that.
86:23.0
Guys, this is the QR code.
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And we'll continue while you're listening to Laman.
86:30.0
Don't forget to like, subscribe, and follow The Melodies.
86:45.0
And also share the link of Laman for the people.
86:50.0
Let's all spread this love.
86:51.0
Let's all spread this song.
86:53.0
And let's build a community together.
86:55.0
Thank you, Pablo.
