LUIS LISTENS TO DOJ USEC. MARGARITA GUTIERREZ (I'm really selfless when I love) | Luis Manzano
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Ako ang kinakabahan sa bisita natin ngayon.
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Dahil may mali akong masabi,
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katapusan na po ni Luis Manzano.
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Itutuloy pa ba natin to? Kasi may anak ako eh.
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Itutuloy pa ba natin to?
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Alagaan namin yun.
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Hindi ko lang. Hindi ko lang. Ba't yung alagaan?
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May mga Safeway Centers naman tayo.
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Bigla ako ng problema. Ayoko magsarita.
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Gusto ko lahat ng questions ko. Nakagarita lang ako.
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Hindi ko kaya. Hindi ko kaya.
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Dalang guest natin, Luiceners,
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we have Yusek of the DOJ,
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Atty. Marge Gutierrez.
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Iki-sabing. Gusto kami. Apirin kami dito eh.
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Siyempre, iba sa ano.
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Una-una sa Yusek, kausap ko before we started the interview.
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At sabi mo nga, you've guested before sa Tony Talks.
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Kaya kay Tony naman.
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Nasabi mo, sobra kang kinakabahan.
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Sobra. Well, until now din naman eh.
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Up to now, kinakabahan ako every time may interview.
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So, such as this one.
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But yun nga, mas prepared ako ngayon kasi
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I watch a lot of your videos.
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And you seem disappointed.
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No, no, no. I feel like I'm conversing with my brother.
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So sabi ko, ganun yung vibe.
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Parang wholesome lang.
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But we'll try to be serious pa din.
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Kasi nga, alam mo, nagpapangat tayo.
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Pero ito, Aki mo.
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Si Yusek, sabi niya, kinakabahan siya.
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Interview setting.
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But you were part of two departments
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na para sa akin, walang lugar ang kaba.
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Before, the DILG.
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At lalo na ngayon, DOJ.
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Para sa akin, if you're part of any of those departments,
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pag-ising mo pa lang, iniiwan mo yung kaba sa bahay dapat.
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That's true. That's true.
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But iba naman kasi yung persona mga when you're working.
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Yun kasi parang, you know, you're just being yourself truly.
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Here naman, ganda din naman.
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Pero syempre may konting kaba
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kasi alam mo na you're being prejudged already
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by whatever you say or do.
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Kasi mas, like for example, DILG,
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mas malapit ako sa tao eh.
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Mas nakakausap ko sila.
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I go underground, natanong ko talaga.
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Nagiging very conversational.
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So, nawawalayin ka ba?
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Kasi hindi mo na masyado iniisip yung work eh.
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Iniisip mo talaga kung ano yung concerns nila.
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Ano ba pwede namin itulong?
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Which is very natural for me.
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But for me to be in front of a camera,
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I'm very shy kasi tanongin niya yung mga kasama ko.
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Sobrang mahihain ko lang.
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Like being behind the scenes.
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Hindi naman sa pag-ano ha.
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I'll just throw it out there
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kasi mamaya kasi baka hindi mo lang masabi.
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And I understand kung nahihiya ka.
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Hindi kaya kinakabahan ka
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kasi ngayon ka lang nakakita ng ganito kagwapo.
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Ba't may tumatawa?
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Baka ako naman yung mga kulong.
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Sabi mo nga, nag-DILG ka,
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on-ground ka, DOJ.
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Pero syempre, ito mo.
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Atorne, tinanong mo lang.
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Tinanong mo lang.
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Hindi lahat nakikita to.
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Kasi hindi ko ito binibigay sa lahat.
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So, mag-thank you ka nalang mamaya.
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Yusek, na ginawa ko to.
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Wait, nang medyo huwag niya si Aga mula.
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No, the son of Aga.
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si Andres at si Atasha,
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wala akong kwentang ninong.
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Mula nung pagkapanganak na lang nila
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hanggang sa nag-uusap tayo,
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wala pa ako na iambag sa buhay nila.
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pag may inambag pa ako sa kanila,
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masisira ang buhay nila.
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So, baka doon ka lang kinakabalik.
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Attorney, let's go way, way, way, way back.
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So, bakit muna the law?
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I mean, obviously, there are family ties.
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Pero marami kasi sa mga bata din.
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Ang parang they put in a conscious effort
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na hindi sumunod sa yapak ng kanilang mga magulang
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Me naman, it was only natural for me to take up law
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because of my mom.
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So, she's sobrang may idol.
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She inspires me to do a lot of things
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to be a better person.
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gabing achievements niya.
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She was first lady secretary of justice
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and also the first lady ombudsman.
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So, talagang mga tough rules.
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I'd always see her na matapang.
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At nung bata kasi ako,
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hindi ako masyadong matapang.
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As in, talagang push over ako ng mga kuya ko.
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Pag may inutos, ginagawa ako paagad.
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Hindi ako nagtatanong na.
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Hindi ako lumalaban.
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So, maybe because of that part
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and also because I just really want to be like my mom.
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So, she inspired me to be a lawyer.
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So, bata pa lang ako.
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I probably wasn't even speaking yet properly.
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I would always tell people,
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I want to be a lawyer.
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Ang first words mo ay,
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ano kaya, may kinalaman sa mo?
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No, but did she influence you na anak,
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you know, be a lawyer?
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Or it was purely by observation?
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No, no, she never.
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Because alam niya,
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mahirap ang trabaho ng aboga siya.
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So, pag sinasabi ko,
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I want to be a lawyer.
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Sabi niya, are you sure?
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So, gano'n siya eh.
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So, looking back, I was like,
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how come you don't want me to be a lawyer ba?
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Kasi sabi niya, hindi ka mabilab sa'yo.
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It came to a point na parang,
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how come it seems like you're discouraging me?
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Kasi yun pala, yung nag-law school ako,
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alam ko na, nag-guest ko na yung nanay ko.
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Sobrang hirap pala.
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Grabing aral, yung puya,
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tapos yung kabamulagi sa mga professors mo,
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nakaharap ka ng recitation,
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tapos isang beses lang.
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So, 50-50 yung grade mo, exam and recitation.
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So, if pumalala ka sa,
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ah, recitation, wala, bagsak ka na.
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At sabi mo nga kanina,
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and the way I see it also,
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and please correct me if I'm wrong,
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you know, a big part of being a lawyer
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is you have to be confident.
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Siyempre, pag humarap ka sa kliyente mo,
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pag humarap ka sa judge.
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Now, coming from a very shy persona,
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meron ka bang iniisip?
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Parang, I remember a movie,
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Jennifer Lopez, yata,
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made in Manhattan.
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Alright, alright, yeah.
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Na parang, whenever si Ralph or something,
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basta the lead guy,
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would do a speech,
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meron siyang paperclip,
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pinagdalaruan sa bulsa,
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to get his mind off his nerves.
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So, ikaw, may ganun ka ba noon?
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Me, I try to imagine myself as,
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sorry, ang tanda na talaga ng TV show na to,
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You remember that?
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Okay, okay, I remember that.
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So, because, yun nga, I'm very shy.
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before I meet clients in the past,
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kasi you have to exude that,
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ano eh, confidence eh.
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You have to, sorry to say this term,
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fake it till you make it.
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I don't know if that's a good or bad, um,
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mentality, but, um,
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that's what I do eh.
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Because, I want them to see
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na they trusted their confidence in me,
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they trusted me to take on their case,
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so dapat pakita ko sa kanila na worth it ako.
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Na worthy naman yung, um,
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or yung pag-trust na lang sa akin.
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So, may tiwala kasi doon.
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So, I really try to, you know,
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have this persona,
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or sometimes like,
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what would my mom think in this situation?
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How would she think in this situation?
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So, bilang idol ako nga,
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So, that's how I, ano,
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that's how I function.
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I guess we're on the same boat.
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Kasi pag pinag-uusapan ng nanay,
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isa sa mga idolo ko rin.
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Ayang-ayang mommy ko.
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In an alternate universe,
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kung hindi naging lawyer si Yusek,
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ano ang ginagawa mo ngayon?
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No, because I like traveling,
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which I don't get to do often anymore.
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So, sometimes when I'm in the plane,
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thinking and reflecting on my life,
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I see the stewardess.
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yung pagkakasabi mo,
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No, because they get to travel,
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kasi unlike modeling,
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So, he can't be a model forever.
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So, may expiration date.
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So, at least for a stewardess,
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it's much longer.
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So, I like traveling,
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I like fixing up.
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So, I like being pretty.
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Best destination you've been to?
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I guess it would have to be Maldives.
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Parang sinasabi nga nila na it's sinking.
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Parang there's a,
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I read that also.
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That's why you need to go
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because of climate change.
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What is it about Maldives
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na binabalikan mo?
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Maybe because it's so quiet,
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it's so peaceful.
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Although yung kasama ko,
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Hindi serene kasama yun.
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But, we enjoyed it
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because it was a time
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talaga to reflect
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because you're not distracted eh.
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parang you're just seeing the water.
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You could see the fish.
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You could see the corals.
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Ang ganda talaga.
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Parang bihira lang sa akin
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makikita ng gano'n.
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So, na-appreciate ko talaga na
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ang ganda pala ng mundo.
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Yung mga little things na
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I used to take it.
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and then there's no one there.
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and your friends.
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think about a lot of things.
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Mamapareflect ka talaga sa buhay
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kung tama ba yung mga desisyon
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Ang sosyal na music, no?
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Pag gusto niya ng tahimik
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Sobrang tahimik doon.
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Pag may nag-iigay,
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Tapos ko na doon.
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pero once pa lang
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ako nakapunta doon.
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so dream destination naman.
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mabakante lang ang schedule mo
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I haven't thought about it.
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But maybe somewhere near lang.
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I wanna go back to Coron.
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It's not a dream destination
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one of the places
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na I would really want
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Maldives na tahimik.
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You're just in your own island.
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in touch with nature.
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nagsaslow down yung utak mo.
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Hindi ka lang puro work.
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unlike some people I know
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na kahit nasa Palawan dyan.
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Some stories yan,
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na kahit nasa Palawan,
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nagtatrabaho pa rin.
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But whenever I'm in Palawan,
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kasi talaga nagsaslow down
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mas nare-relax ako.
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the simplicity of life.
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You appreciate the pace of life.
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yung slowness niya
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or when things are
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Ang tanong ko sa'yo
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nabababa mo pa ba
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Only when I'm asleep.
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Because I'm always
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looking at my phone.
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Because I might be on call.
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Baka sanay na rin kasi ako
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sa practice ko sa private na
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yung lagi may sense
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parang I wanted to level up.
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Kasi I really want to prove
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myself worthy of being
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a public servant.
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Kasi nung una talaga
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natatakot rin ako
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na maging public servant.
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I'm not good enough.
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Kasi matasang position
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kagad na nakuha ko eh.
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Na na-appoint ako.
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Ang inisip ko kasi
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And she was like what?
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I'm not yet at that age.
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compared to her experiences,
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lesser yung experience ko.
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So, lagi akong may kaba na
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a disservice to the people
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because they deserve
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When you got the news
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na medyo mataas-taas
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kagad ang binibigay sa'yo
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and it goes to show
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the government trusts you
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with these positions,
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ano ang pakinamdam?
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Was there a sleepless night
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na you got the news?
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Yeah, because I was like,
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I was getting on my nerves
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na baka, you know,
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baka I might not be good enough.
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Ganun lang ako lagi mag-isip eh.
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Maybe it's just me.
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or is it a lawyer thing
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na thinking of those angles din?
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Maybe kasi whenever
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I will be put in a situation
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that's really important,
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it will mean a lot to people,
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I would always want to be
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This time around,
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I'm prepared in the sense
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na buo yung loob ko
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na ito talaga ang gagawin ko.
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Magpa-public service ako,
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six years of my life at least,
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talagang pure public service.
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Imagine from private,
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na you're comfortable,
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you're earning a lot.
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Office-office ka lang.
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Ito talagang sakripisyo.
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So talagang mentally,
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I prepare to be a public servant.
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But yung exact task of being a USEC,
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medyo doon ako kinabahan
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what if, you know,
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there's someone better
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for this position
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and I'm preventing that person
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from doing the best service
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lagi ko iniisip na,
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if you want this job,
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if you want to do well,
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do, give more than 100%
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because that's what the people
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Yan ang kailangan ng taong bayan.
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Dahil, alam mo yun,
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lagi ang daming promises
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or lagi nalang perception
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pag nasa gobyerno,
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ah, you're not gonna do well
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or, and I wanna change
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Or simple, binigay lang sa'yo.
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hindi ka talaga worthy
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ng position na yan.
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So ako naman, parang,
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Papalitan ko yung perception na yan.
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At least, I will try to
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kasi hindi ko naman makakonvince
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marirealize nila,
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ah, hindi, may pwede ko yung kasangga.
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May pwede dyan na,
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ah, kahit 1 a.m. matatawagan mo.
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Kahit 2 a.m. gising niya mga yan.
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Kung hindi, may gigising naman sa'kin.
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Alam nila na number ng driver ko.
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So, if talagang important tatawag,
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matatawagan nila.
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What if kailangan ko
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Pero usap lang tayo, ah.
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What if hindi kita kailangan naman
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Kunwari, wala lang maghahatid sa'kin.
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So, alas-dos ng umaga,
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okay lang yung driver mo na lang
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Basta bakante siya,
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tapos saka nakatulog siya.
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Kasi important sa'kin sa mga tao,
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Especially my driver.
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Kasi siya yung in charge
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He's driving me around.
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If I don't make sure
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na he's taken care of,
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he doesn't sleep,
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nangihiram na ako ng ibang driver.
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First and foremost,
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you take care of yourself
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before taking care of other people.
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You know, I like what you said kamina,
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na you have this worry
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na there's someone better.
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Na mamaya you're taking a chance
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away from someone else.
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Pero para sa akin,
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the way I see it,
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with how you are,
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it's both, you know,
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You know, playing the cards,
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let everything fall into place.
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So, wherever you are right now,
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nandiyang habi ko sa marami kang matutulungan.
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So, your first day as a public servant,
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when you started din naman,
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you were really talking to people.
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ng marami sa mga tao?
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I mean, yun natin,
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everything you see on social media,
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That's how it is.
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But what's one thing you learned
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coming from private
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to so many people
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and hearing their stories?
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naging realization
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nung nakakausap ko
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It's one thing to see na,
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okay, there's so many poor people,
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ang daming hindi na bibigyan
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ng basic services.
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when I came in sa DILG,
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not only did I really know
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naramdaman ko talaga
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and yung frustration,
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I'm like kung iniisip na,
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baka hindi lang nila
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ginagawa yung part nila.
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They don't apply for it.
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They just wait for handouts.
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But yung iba kasi talagang
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dumaan na sa proseso
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I don't know if this is okay to say,
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another aspect would be
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yung political aspect of things
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na may iba talaga
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hindi nabibigyan ng servisyo
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kasi napo-political.
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It's an unfortunate truth.
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ang daming natin pwede,
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there's so many things
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that come into play
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dapat unnecessary na.
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na-realize ko yung mga ganong bagay
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na it's not that as simple
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A lot of things come into play.
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you need to factor that in
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1 plus 1 equals 2.
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Na para sinasabi nga nila,
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na gusto ko na i-share din.
16:19.2
It could be 2 plus 2,
16:21.9
We all have an end goal
16:22.8
but there's so many ways
16:23.7
and means to get there.
16:25.8
how was the switch naman
16:27.8
tapos when you got the news na,
16:34.6
It was my training ground
16:35.9
talaga for public service
16:37.5
and ang dami ko natutunan.
16:40.8
Secretary Benjur Abalos,
16:43.1
ang practice niya kasi,
16:46.9
for almost 2 decades.
16:51.7
nasanay talaga ako sa kanya
16:53.2
na to be always on your toes
16:54.7
and mabilis mag-isip.
16:56.9
ang ganda rin ang training ko.
16:58.6
transitioning to DOJ,
16:59.8
I was really happy
17:00.5
because it's a dream come true.
17:03.7
And maybe because
17:04.5
it hits closer to home
17:06.2
because my mom was
17:07.0
Secretary of Justice
17:10.5
yan ang playground ko.
17:12.0
dyan ako nang gugulo
17:16.4
most of the time,
17:17.0
kasi wala kaming maid
17:17.8
dahil maugulo yung mga kapatid ko.
17:20.1
Wala kami ang maids.
17:21.0
Or during summer,
17:22.8
sometimes my mom would have to
17:25.6
kasi nga hindi ako maiwan.
17:29.2
when I was really much younger,
17:30.8
my mom would take me
17:31.9
na lang to the office.
17:32.6
Hindi ko alam pala
17:33.1
bawal yan back then.
17:35.9
she would hide me
17:38.1
she's still a mom
17:38.7
at the end of the day.
17:41.8
in that building.
17:43.6
I would know all the guards
17:45.0
kasi sila yung kakulitan ko.
17:48.8
yung mga abogado doon,
17:49.7
pwede kong gulohin.
17:50.7
They always play with me.
17:53.7
when I was appointed,
17:55.3
I remember Soj was saying,
17:57.2
after I took my oath,
17:60.0
you're finally home.
18:01.0
Tapos parang lumuha ako.
18:02.5
Kasi it really felt like home.
18:05.2
when I was taking my oath-taking
18:06.4
and then pati yung mga
18:10.0
when she was in DOJ.
18:11.6
They were also there.
18:14.2
grabe overwhelming yung support.
18:17.0
I told myself na,
18:18.9
galingan mo dyan na
18:21.7
bagong challenges,
18:23.6
bagong responsibility,
18:25.3
kung ano yung mga
18:26.9
siguro in the past,
18:27.6
huwag mo nang gagawin.
18:29.1
mas nasa challenge ako ngayon.
18:30.6
Did you have the same
18:37.0
I didn't get to realize
18:41.0
yung mga personal
18:44.4
babad kami sa trabaho.
18:48.7
from mga nag-aaway
18:50.7
mga barangay captains,
18:52.3
tapos biglang may sunog,
18:55.9
may mga nag-aaway na
18:58.6
yung mga ganong concerns,
19:02.3
a lot of yung mga issues,
19:04.5
laging nababato sa DILG.
19:06.0
Lahat ng problema
19:07.7
nababato talaga sa DILG.
19:12.5
na handle na namin.
19:14.4
I didn't have time
19:15.6
to really reflect.
19:15.8
Yung mga marites,
19:16.5
umaabot ba dyan sa mga DILG?
19:17.9
Yung number one na reklamo
19:19.3
yung mga marites.
19:19.8
May nangyayari na bang gano'n
19:20.8
yung mga nagsimula ng away
19:22.7
dahil ang samarites?
19:23.9
And for some reason,
19:26.4
because both sides
19:27.8
will be calling us up
19:29.4
and then telling us na,
19:30.5
oh, si barangay captain,
19:33.1
pag tinawagan mo naman si Cap,
19:34.4
Cap, ano ba nangyari?
19:35.5
Kasi hanggang Cap,
19:37.4
tinatawagan namin.
19:38.3
And I really want it
19:39.5
very collaborative.
19:40.9
ayoko yung mga may layer-layer pa.
19:42.6
Pag alam mo na yung problema,
19:43.5
tatawagan mo na si Cap eh,
19:44.5
Cap, ano ba nangyari dito?
19:46.4
Tapos, sasabihin nalang,
19:47.2
explain nalang yung side.
19:48.8
ganito, ganyan, ganyan.
19:50.2
mag-away na yung dalawa.
19:51.1
Sino ba sa'yo talaga
19:51.9
nagsasabi ng totoo?
19:53.2
Can you just settle it
19:54.2
among yourselves?
19:55.1
Kasi huwag na natin
19:58.2
sayang resources.
19:59.5
Pag-usapan na lang natin.
20:00.9
Kaya, I really like
20:01.8
calling them up na both.
20:04.4
Yung mga ganyang petty,
20:05.5
pero yung mga will require
20:08.4
syempre, I have to give it
20:09.3
to our legal sa DILG.
20:11.6
Pero yung mga simple,
20:15.1
kasi hindi raw siya residente.
20:18.5
Eh, dyan na nga nakatiri.
20:19.8
But that's something,
20:21.2
even I didn't know na
20:23.0
even that is covered
20:25.5
Hindi ko rin alam yan.
20:27.3
So, as lang naman,
20:31.3
how does it feel?
20:32.1
I mean, sabi mo nga ni
20:33.9
I wasn't coming home.
20:34.8
Pero, nung nandun ka na,
20:35.9
when you're actually working na
20:37.2
and talking to the
20:39.3
the whole family of a DOJ,
20:40.4
when you're actually working na,
20:41.9
anong pakiramdam?
20:42.3
It also felt like home.
20:44.6
as in my personal home,
20:45.8
because I grew up with
20:47.0
three older brothers.
20:49.5
undersecretaries kasi,
20:52.1
undersecretaries except me,
20:53.5
they're all male.
20:54.7
And they're all bubbly.
20:56.1
And yung parang big brothers,
20:58.5
So, parang literal na,
20:59.5
parang nasa bahay lang ako.
21:02.7
But they're all nice.
21:03.6
They're all loving naman.
21:06.3
I guess I'm still
21:07.4
transitioning to DOJ
21:09.0
because I'm still
21:09.3
because it's only
21:12.0
a lot of challenges,
21:13.0
a lot of legal issues.
21:16.1
hindi ako naghawak
21:16.8
ng mga legal books.
21:18.8
So, medyo nangalaw.
21:21.7
because, you know,
21:22.3
everyone's so well-versed.
21:24.4
they do something they do
21:26.4
ayan na naman ako sa mode na
21:27.5
I have to pretend,
21:29.9
you're this fascinating lawyer.
21:31.3
Kasi lahat sila parang,
21:32.9
according to ganitong article,
21:34.5
ako naman parang,
21:35.3
teka, ano nga ba yung Google?
21:36.4
I have to Google na,
21:37.5
ano nga ba yung article na ito?
21:39.0
Anong code nga ba nito?
21:40.7
I have to review again.
21:42.4
Because I need to keep up
21:43.6
with my colleagues.
21:45.1
And coming from two departments
21:46.3
that are very, very
21:48.5
nandiyan ng DILG,
21:50.7
lahat magagaling.
21:52.1
Isa pang industry
21:52.9
na sobrang cutthroat
21:54.1
na naging head ka
21:56.2
I still am the head.
21:57.2
You still are, you still are.
21:57.9
I'm still the president.
21:58.6
But this is my last year already.
22:00.7
So nag-all out na tayo ngayon.
22:02.1
So anong difference
22:03.1
ng ginagawa ng PMAP
22:05.3
versus everything
22:07.5
As a public servant.
22:10.0
pretty much any country
22:11.5
is quite cutthroat.
22:12.9
But everyone just sees
22:14.4
the finished product.
22:15.5
The glitz and the glamour.
22:17.5
because of the onset
22:19.5
of the internet, right?
22:21.2
Parang the world seems smaller.
22:23.6
there's a lot of foreign models
22:26.7
So that's like one aspect.
22:28.0
That's a challenge also
22:29.0
because, you know,
22:29.6
we want our Filipino models
22:30.8
to be competitive as well.
22:34.5
So one big difference,
22:37.5
I think different challenges lang.
22:39.7
But in terms of what I do
22:42.3
I don't focus on modeling anymore.
22:45.6
I want to focus on
22:46.8
strengthening our organization.
22:49.4
I have three goals
22:51.0
coming in as president.
22:52.3
I want them to be more
22:55.5
So back then kasi yung
22:57.7
when they think of models,
22:59.0
when they invite models
23:00.4
to join the organization,
23:04.6
Kailangan sobrang payat,
23:05.8
23 ang waistline,
23:07.0
tos ang height mo,
23:10.6
parang cookie cutter mold,
23:13.6
we want to be inclusive.
23:16.5
PMAP to all types of models.
23:20.2
regardless of your background,
23:21.9
kasi yung iba sa kanila,
23:26.1
no, no, I'm just an athlete.
23:27.7
You can be an athlete
23:29.1
and you can be a model
23:30.2
and you can be anything
23:32.8
that was my focus.
23:34.7
more of capacity building
23:37.8
to be community builders.
23:40.5
before yung peg namin
23:43.1
Wala na silang pakialam
23:44.4
about what's happening
23:46.2
it starts and ends
23:47.0
doon sa fashion show.
23:48.4
So, but, you know,
23:49.0
we want them to be,
23:50.1
to broaden their perspective
23:52.9
we're really encouraging them
23:54.2
na, oh, you know,
23:55.1
let's do community service.
23:57.9
was noong December,
24:02.3
and we interacted
24:03.6
with the women there,
24:04.5
with the children also.
24:07.8
after namin mataas
24:09.0
nung wala na yung mga tao,
24:10.6
they started crying
24:11.8
kasi it was their first time
24:15.4
sa mga models namin,
24:16.9
they're the breadwinners
24:20.2
they didn't come from
24:21.2
really well-off na background.
24:24.2
na-realize na parang,
24:26.0
mahirap na yung buhay ko.
24:27.7
Mas mahirap pa pala
24:29.7
mas naging appreciative sila.
24:32.6
kasi they never had
24:36.9
itong side na to,
24:37.7
yung mga talagang
24:38.5
naaapin na babae,
24:41.6
yung nakipag-interact sila,
24:47.6
na-appreciate ko pa rin
24:48.7
na dinalam mo kami dito
24:51.1
mas naging grateful ako
24:54.0
You see the bigger picture
24:59.4
the bigger picture in life nga.
25:01.2
Do you have a favorite memory
25:03.2
Nangyari ba sa'yo
25:03.9
yung the typical stories
25:05.5
na pwedeng nadulas
25:10.5
May isa kaming show.
25:11.8
It was a fern on a show
25:13.2
for Red Charity Gala.
25:15.1
So, it was a huge event
25:16.2
because it's Red Charity.
25:18.0
We're raising funds
25:20.3
foundations and centers.
25:23.2
So, we did a fern on a show.
25:25.5
yung heels ng mga models,
25:32.4
Mababa na yun sa kanila.
25:34.2
provided by the designer.
25:37.7
pag nakita mo yung mga creations niya,
25:42.1
kasi he's based in Dubai,
25:45.1
when we did the show,
25:47.6
nagkaroon ng technical problem
25:49.3
because yung fog machine,
25:58.2
So, yung na-leak yung
25:59.4
So, nagiging oily na yung stage.
26:02.1
And it was, what,
26:02.8
15 minutes before
26:05.2
And no one realized
26:08.6
the models started coming out
26:10.1
and they all slipped
26:13.5
So, parang kami sa backstage,
26:16.0
anong nangyayari?
26:18.8
Someone tried to clean it pa
26:20.9
and you know what happens
26:21.9
when you mix oil and water.
26:23.5
So, parang kaming,
26:25.7
So, parang ina-anticipate na namin
26:27.0
talagang mauhulog na kami
26:28.2
kasi lahat talaga,
26:29.2
even the best model.
26:31.5
Oo, yung mauhulog.
26:32.1
Yung mga talagang
26:32.8
seasoned na models
26:34.0
na magagaling sa catwalk,
26:36.5
Pero tayo na lang sila.
26:38.3
Kung magbang tayo ng model.
26:40.9
Nakapag-passion show
26:43.4
Para wala naman sa amin
26:44.6
tumayo na pagkain.
26:46.6
parang gano'n lang.
26:47.7
Para part of the act.
26:49.5
we all went through that.
26:51.5
kahit yung mga regular shows,
26:52.6
kasi yung mga sapatos namin
26:53.8
sometimes provided by the designer,
26:56.5
hindi naman swak talaga
26:57.5
sa mga size ng paa namin.
26:60.0
ipit mo sa size 9
27:04.4
I'm not complaining, ha?
27:05.4
It's just all part of the experience.
27:07.5
That's part of a fashion show.
27:09.5
we went through that na rin naman.
27:11.0
So, it's actually
27:11.7
character building
27:12.6
because, you know,
27:13.7
you have to move on, eh.
27:15.0
you can't dwell on,
27:16.2
yaka sa backstage,
27:19.4
wala na mag-hire size.
27:22.8
Parang buhay lang yan.
27:28.8
na talagang hindi fit.
27:29.6
Kausapin mo na yung designer
27:33.1
There's so many ways
27:33.8
to avoid that scenario na.
27:36.6
Okay, may tanong ko sa'yo.
27:37.8
Meron tayo isang common friend.
27:39.4
Okay, so I asked trivia
27:42.4
I wonder who this common friend is.
27:43.6
Isa, sabihin ko na mamaya.
27:44.8
Is it a girl or a boy?
27:50.9
it's pretty obvious
27:51.6
na you're very fond
27:53.7
of the LGBTQIA community.
27:56.1
Yes, that's true.
27:58.1
Maybe because I've been
27:59.6
them for a really long time.
28:02.1
naging friends ko
28:04.2
So, I started modeling
28:08.1
towards the last year
28:10.3
But more on the first year
28:14.3
naging instant friends ko
28:15.4
kasi yung personality nila,
28:16.8
it's so different.
28:18.0
Diba, shy nga ako, diba?
28:21.6
I'm careful with what I say
28:23.0
because I feel like
28:25.4
Careful talaga ako.
28:26.7
nakikinig na lang ako,
28:28.2
eto mga friends ko,
28:30.8
they can say anything.
28:31.9
And it's so witty, diba?
28:33.1
They're very smart kasi
28:34.2
grabe yung mga hindi
28:35.3
talagang tatawa ka nalang.
28:37.1
So, sa kanila ko yung parang
28:40.6
So, I always like
28:41.8
At nakahasa ka doon, ha?
28:43.3
Nakahasa ka talaga.
28:44.1
They're so witty,
28:45.2
ibang level na parang
28:47.4
mag-gets mo kagad.
28:50.4
I really have a lot of,
28:57.5
nakakabahan sa aking katanungan.
29:03.5
ang kaibigan natin na yun,
29:06.2
tutal pinag-uusapan
29:07.0
ng LGBTQIA community.
29:11.0
kung magmahal yan,
29:12.8
kung magmahal yan,
29:15.8
What does that mean?
29:16.3
Yan yung term na binigyan niya sa akin.
29:17.5
I didn't know love is...
29:18.4
That's coming from someone
29:19.3
sa LGBTQIA community.
29:21.0
So, hindi ko lang binabato.
29:22.4
Yan ang term niya.
29:23.2
Bakit kaya niya nasabi
29:25.3
Medyo gets ko na.
29:26.2
Na si attorney Marge
29:29.4
I think wala naman.
29:29.9
Ang nagsabi sa akin,
29:30.8
ang initials niya
29:34.5
Okay, parang may idea na.
29:38.8
No, I didn't know
29:39.6
na may gender palang pag-ibig.
29:43.8
I guess kasi marupok ako.
29:48.0
marupok kayo magmahal.
29:51.0
Marupok sila magmahal.
29:53.0
And that's why we also
29:53.9
get along so well.
29:55.9
kasi I'm with my friends,
29:57.1
I like talking to them
29:59.4
mga relationship.
30:01.4
Kasi ganoon naman sila.
30:02.9
That's how they open up.
30:04.0
And I think that's how
30:04.6
you really bond with them,
30:05.9
You get to know them
30:06.6
on a deeper level.
30:08.1
I mean, aside from
30:08.9
tawa lang kayo ng tawa,
30:10.7
kailangan may moments
30:14.0
may bring up nila
30:14.6
yung love life nila.
30:17.0
nakakwento talaga nila
30:17.9
yung mga struggles nila
30:18.9
na may mahal sila,
30:20.3
kaso mahal yung iba.
30:22.5
nakaka-relate kami
30:24.7
we're very selfless
30:28.4
I'm really selfless
30:32.3
na one day parang
30:33.1
I didn't give it all
30:34.1
and then nawala na yung person.
30:36.6
kung maghiwalay kami,
30:45.4
Di ba dapat ganoon?
30:46.3
No, but I'm really selfless
30:49.3
Kasi ayoko iniisip na
30:50.6
ayoko nag-regret.
30:52.8
Kaya it's so easy also
30:58.5
and the moment na talagang hindi,
31:01.5
sagad na sagad na ako.
31:03.1
So, I can easily move on
31:04.6
and wala na akong hang-ups
31:06.0
or wala na akong mga what-ifs
31:07.5
kasi tapos na yan.
31:08.2
That's why I don't have
31:11.8
So, talagang inaanom mo yun
31:14.8
even if na parang
31:16.4
casual friend lang talaga,
31:19.0
You make sure that you end it
31:20.3
right there and then.
31:21.2
Yeah, and also in respect
31:22.1
for the next relationship.
31:26.2
So, if it's done,
31:27.3
it's really done.
31:28.6
Pero yung mga friends ko kasi
31:30.1
na nasa community,
31:31.8
minsan talagang kahit done na
31:35.3
bumabalik talaga sila.
31:37.1
being the big sister na parang
31:38.4
tigilan mo na yan,
31:40.1
wala na tayong maasahan,
31:42.0
marami naman magmamahal sa'yo.
31:44.3
That's why they say na
31:46.4
Pero once makaget over na yan,
31:49.0
Di ba there's something
31:49.7
about the LGBTQIA community
31:51.6
na pag nagmahal sila,
31:55.1
Parang for some reason,
31:56.0
for example, kahit ako,
31:57.3
pag nakakausap ko yung mga
31:58.2
kaibigan ko from the community,
31:59.6
yung even if mag-on sila,
32:02.8
sila magpapabinyag
32:04.8
dun sa anak nung guy
32:08.1
o hindi ka magpapagawa
32:09.1
ng bubong nilang mag-asawa.
32:10.1
Yung sa pang-atwisyon.
32:12.4
They'll give everything,
32:14.1
to provide for the other family.
32:17.3
ka-selfless talaga sila.
32:18.9
Hindi pa naman ako
32:19.7
maabot sa ganun level,
32:20.8
but you could just see
32:22.7
how good of people
32:25.9
they'll give everything.
32:26.7
Kahit mawala na yung
32:29.0
kahit maubos na sila,
32:30.6
basta meron lang yung
32:34.8
sa mga nanonood dito,
32:36.2
maraming siyang mga nanonood
32:38.9
So, Louise Liz says,
32:39.9
for those that, you know,
32:40.9
want to be a public servant,
32:42.6
what's the best advice
32:43.9
that you can give for them?
32:46.7
What's interesting right now,
32:47.7
a very successful woman,
32:53.7
as a USEC and DOJ,
32:55.7
and the future is so bright
32:56.9
for everything you want to do
32:58.1
as a public servant.
32:59.4
And maybe they're saying right now,
33:00.9
parang gusto ko ganyan din
33:02.9
Do you have any message for them?
33:04.2
There are no shortcuts.
33:06.1
Me, it took me 10 years
33:07.6
before I was able to enter
33:10.3
I've always wanted it
33:12.4
but because of some circumstances
33:13.7
that happened in my family
33:17.1
she stepped down from office,
33:18.9
na-dishartened siya eh
33:19.8
with public service.
33:23.6
na I really want to join government,
33:28.1
kasi baka ma-dishartened ka lang,
33:31.1
ma-heartbroken ka lang,
33:33.8
being the dutiful daughter,
33:37.1
Kahit in my heart,
33:38.4
may burning passion talaga na
33:40.6
kasi buong buhay ko eh.
33:42.9
what kind of a lawyer
33:43.5
do you want to be?
33:44.6
I want to be in government.
33:46.3
And now that I had the chance,
33:49.3
when I became a lawyer,
33:50.9
I really wanted to pursue
33:53.5
I really wanted to pursue
33:53.6
na pigilan niya talaga ako.
33:54.4
Kasi nga sabi niya,
33:55.6
ang sakit ng mga nangyari sa akin.
33:57.6
Baka ayokong mangyari yan sa'yo.
34:01.6
I struggled in the first few years
34:03.8
kasi I feel like I was a sellout.
34:05.5
Telling people na,
34:06.6
I'm gonna be a government lawyer.
34:08.5
And here you are,
34:09.3
a private for a corporate pa.
34:12.9
I felt not myself.
34:15.0
I wasn't too happy
34:15.9
the first few years.
34:18.2
baka hindi talaga
34:18.9
ito yung path ko.
34:20.3
let's just work hard.
34:21.7
But masakit yung first few years ko
34:25.0
magpupulfil ko na yung pangarap ko
34:26.4
na maging abogado
34:27.5
para sa gobyerno.
34:28.9
But now that I had the opportunity
34:30.4
to become a public servant,
34:33.1
I'm happy that I was able
34:35.1
to prepare for it.
34:38.1
also financially.
34:39.1
Nag-ipon muna ako.
34:41.0
Kung talagang servisyo ang habol mo,
34:43.5
hindi ka kikita sa gobyerno.
34:45.1
Kung servisyo ang habol mo.
34:46.6
So, and then also,
34:47.6
I have to work hard
34:48.9
because I have to prove myself worthy.
34:50.8
Kasi ganun ako eh.
34:51.8
Kahit anong papasukan ko,
34:53.5
you have to prove
34:54.1
na commensurate naman yung skills mo
34:56.9
sa a-applyan mo na job.
34:58.6
So, for those out there
34:59.9
who want to be public servants,
35:01.9
first, you have to have the passion for it.
35:05.5
with the right intentions,
35:07.2
with the right heart,
35:08.3
at the very least.
35:13.7
without expecting anything in return.
35:16.3
Kahit, thank you.
35:17.9
Kasi it's really a thankless job.
35:21.4
hindi mo naman isipin yan lagi
35:22.8
na parang every time you do it,
35:23.3
you have to do it.
35:23.4
So, I have to prove that
35:23.4
you have to prove that
35:23.5
you have to prove that
35:23.5
every time you do something,
35:24.2
oh, magpasalamat ka,
35:25.2
oh, dapat grateful.
35:26.1
No, this is your job.
35:29.4
So, dapat ganun yung mentality mo.
35:32.2
you have to be compassionate.
35:34.0
You have to be compassionate na
35:35.5
minsan kasi sa trabaho,
35:39.1
nawawalan yung puso.
35:40.7
So, minsan pag nagde-decide ka
35:42.0
on certain things,
35:42.8
nakakalimutan mo na yung perspective
35:45.3
So, dapat maging kind
35:46.4
and compassionate ka pa din
35:47.6
no matter kung ano yung circumstances.
35:49.3
Kasi may way naman yan na
35:52.6
Hindi mo nang sabi,
35:53.4
hindi, mali ka eh,
35:57.8
You know, you be kind enough eh
35:59.0
because you're still providing service
36:00.3
to the people, di ba?
36:01.3
You don't want to be treated
36:03.7
regardless of your stature,
36:05.8
Na dapat ano ka lang,
36:08.2
compassionate ka lang sa tao,
36:09.5
pakikiramdaman mo,
36:10.4
dapat mabait ka lang.
36:11.6
So, those are the three things
36:12.9
na I want you to consider
36:14.8
if you're gonna enter public service.
36:17.3
So, I really want to change
36:18.6
the notion of people
36:19.6
entering public service
36:21.1
for the wrong reasons.
36:24.3
para sa taong bayan to,
36:25.9
tulungan natin sa lahat.
36:29.1
that we had this conversation
36:30.4
because the next time I'll see you,
36:33.2
whether it be on TV,
36:34.6
hopefully on a good circumstance,
36:36.4
o pakalat-kalat siya,
36:37.2
is when I see you,
36:39.0
I'll see someone,
36:40.1
not simply someone as a USEC,
36:42.7
not simply someone as
36:43.9
President of PMAP,
36:45.5
or simply as a lawyer,
36:47.2
I'll get to see you
36:48.2
as a public servant.
36:50.1
And para sa akin,
36:54.2
but being a public servant
36:56.0
is quite rare nowadays.
37:01.9
you are very, very busy.
37:03.4
You have your hands full
37:04.4
in everything that you do.
37:06.8
It's for a good cause also.
37:08.8
At least we'll be able to
37:10.1
hopefully inspire people
37:11.8
to join the public service
37:13.4
for the right reasons, right?
37:16.1
thank you so much.
37:16.7
Thank you very much.
37:17.1
Thank you for watching,
37:18.8
Maraming, maraming salamat, guys,
37:20.6
Louise listeners,
37:21.4
thank you very much.
37:23.2
ang dami ko rin natutunan
37:24.2
kung saka-sakali man
37:25.8
na mapunta rin ako
37:26.8
sa public service.
37:31.2
alam mo na pag-usapan to.
37:32.3
Kung saka-sakali man.
37:33.4
Para mas maraming
37:34.1
magaganda't guwapo.
37:35.6
Kung saka-sakali man
37:37.0
na ako ay tumakbo,
37:39.4
ng plataforma online.
37:44.8
kung saka-sakali man
37:47.8
kulimling pa lang,
37:51.1
Kulimling pa lang yun.
37:52.5
Paano pa pag umulan?
37:54.8
May dumura lang sa kalye,
37:56.7
may relief goods ka na.
37:58.8
Ganon ako katindi.
38:02.3
naka-wheelchair ka na kagal.
38:04.5
Yun ang mga platforma ko.
38:05.3
Aasahan ko yan ha.
38:07.1
ang politiko dapat
38:08.4
hindi ganito mag-isip.
38:10.0
Dapat pa nag-iisip ka
38:10.9
para sa taong bayan
38:11.8
kailangan in advance.
38:14.2
Dapat may ano ka,
38:15.0
yung perception mo dapat mabilis.
38:17.3
Nagpa-check-up ka pa lang
38:18.5
katabi mo na yung embalsamador.
38:20.8
Huwag naman ganon.
38:22.5
Sir, huwag ganon.
38:26.9
Depende kung sino
38:27.7
ang magiging campaign manager mo.
38:30.3
Kung yun ang intention mo,
38:31.8
basta effectively
38:32.8
makommunicate yan
38:35.9
Paano mo i-justify
38:40.9
Oh, it's always how
38:41.9
you send the message out.
38:43.8
Yusek, I truly enjoyed.
38:45.1
Thank you very much.
38:46.4
Thank you for making it.
38:47.0
Like, share, subscribe,
38:47.8
do whatever you want
38:49.1
thank you, listeners.
