Sen. Loren Legarda Alice Guo INTERROGATION Senate Hearing ALICE GUO
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teritoryong yun kung saan kinatatayo ng lupa mo at ang mga krimen na ito ay human trafficking among others,
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including illegal gambling and...
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other criminal activities. Correct?
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Ah, Your Honor, before nangyari po yung raid, wala po akong alam.
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Ah, in fact, wala pong dumarating po ng report po sa office ko po at wala rin pong dumarating po na report po from PNP na meron pong nangyayari.
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Mayor, hindi ba ho trabaho at tungkulin ng mga mayor na alam po ang nagaganap sa kanilang lugar?
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Is that not your sworn duty?
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As the executive...
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As chief executive of a local government unit?
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Ah, Your Honor, yes po.
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Ah, every month po, tinatanong ko rin po, meron din po akong tao na in-assign po para tanungin po yung mga housekeeping po na taga-bamban po,
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na kung meron po silang ginagawa mga alimaliya po doon sa law po.
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Ah, and wala pong dumarating po sa akin ng report po na may ginagawa po silang crime po doon.
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Ganap kalaki yung lupa, Mayor, doon kung saan nagtayo ng mga gusali, kung saan ginaganap ang krimen,
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ng pangangalakal ng mga tao, mga Pilipino at mga dayuhan,
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kung saan ginaganap ang mga illegal gambling activities,
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kung saan ginaganap ang iba't ibang klaseng krimen,
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ilang ektarya, at hindi nyo alam sa Banban bilang mayor?
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Ah, Your Honor, seven point plus hectares po.
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So, seven point plus hectares.
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You're a mayor of Banban Town, newly elected.
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Kayo po siyempre ang nagbigay ng...
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mga permits para magtayo ng mga malalaking gusaling yun.
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Siyempre po, kilala nyo yung kapitan.
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Anong barangay po yung seven hectares na yun?
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Ah, Your Honor, barangay Anupol po.
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Kilala ko po yung kapitan.
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At, ah, Your Honor, yung mismong pogo po na operation po
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is nagbigay po sila sa akin ng provision license po from Pagcorpo.
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Then that's the only time po na minigyan ko po sila ng permit po.
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Second, third, and fourth floor po.
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huli at nasagip na mga dayuhan at mga Pilipino
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ay alam nyong nangyari yun, di ba?
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Alam nyo na sila ay kinakalakal, sexually abused.
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Ah, Your Honor, before po nangyari po yung raid, wala po akong alam.
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After the raid po, doon ko po nalaman po.
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At tinanong nyo sa inyong barangay captain na siguro naman ay kilala nyo,
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kaalyado nyo kung ano po ang ginaganap sa seven hectares na property yun
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kung saan malalaking mga gusali.
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Ah, yes po, Your Honor.
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After the raid po, nagform po kami ng isang team po to investigate po sana.
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However po, nung papasok na po sila sa loob to investigate po,
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at para mag-gather pa po ng mga informations na from outside and inside po,
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hindi na po sila inalaw po pumasok po sa compound po.
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Ah, the whole two years that you've been the local chief executive
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at nandun ang mga nefarious, iligal, criminal activities,
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in a barangay in your town.
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And you would say, wala po kayong kinalaman o wala kayong alam sa mga nagaganap?
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Your Honor, wala pong tumating sa akin na any report po.
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In fact, nung 2023 po, na-raid po yun.
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Ah, first, nung nakaraan beses po na na-raid po yun,
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nagform din po kami ng isang task force po, isang team po to check.
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However po, kalagitnaan po ng aming investigation po, nasa korte na.
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Nung nasa korte na po.
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Nasa korte na po kami nakialam bilang MGU po.
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Pero kayo po ang may-ari ng lupa kung saan po nagtayo yung mga negosyante.
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So kilala niyo po sila.
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Ah, Your Honor, nag-divest po ako 2021 po.
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Yes, divestment, divestment. But you know them?
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Ah, kilala ko po yung Huang Jiyang po, Your Honor.
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So kilala niyo, ano po yung negosyo nung inyong kadil
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na nagtayo ng mga gusali at negosyo sa lupa niyo?
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Ah, Your Honor, kilala ko po si Huang Jiyang.
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At siya po yung nag-invest po dun sa mga buildings po.
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At after po ng raid, tinanong ko rin po siya ano nangyari.
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Sabi rin po niya sa akin, nasa korte na.
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Yun po yung naging usapan po namin nung nangyari po nung nakaraan po na raid.
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That's your conversation as landowner.
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But your concern as mayor, considering talamak,
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how do you say, anong salita doon na grabe ang nangyayari
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ng krimen sa iyo?
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Yung jurisdiction ay hindi po kayo nabahala?
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Ah, Your Honor, yung nakaraan po na raid po na company,
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tsaka yung company po ngayon is two different company po.
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Minigyan ko lang po sila ng lisensya po,
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minigyan ko lang po sila ng business permit po, Your Honor,
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nung nagkapagbigay po sila ng provision license po sa opisina ko po.
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Yes, bigay ng license, hindi nyo alam, hanggang re-naid sila.
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Alam nyo ang pinasukan nyo, tumakbo kayo bilang mayor,
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at nanalo kayo ng ilandaang votes over your rival,
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and you're saying something that you're familiar because kayo may ari ng lupa,
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at kilala nyo yung tao, nagtayo ng malaking gusali,
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at nagkaroon ng raid na last year, at hindi nyo alam na nagaganap
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ang mga krimen na yon, right under your nose in the LGU which you had?
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Your Honor, lahat po nang naging operation po ng POGO po sa Bamban sila po
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ay meron pong lisensya po na galing sa PAGCOR.
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In fact, itong last po na raid po ay meron pong 24-7 po na PAGCOR po nagbabantay po doon sa site.
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At sinasabi nyo na sa kaalaman nyo ay POGO lamang ang nagaganap,
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at yung mga nasagip na mga dayuhan na natatraffic,
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o sa Filipino, ang salita ng traffic ay kinakalakal,
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binibenta ng mga tao, dayuhan man o Pilipino,
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ay wala kayong kaalaman, at mismo yung barangay captain,
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at yung mga tao nyo po sa LGU ay hindi po alaman nangyayari?
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Your Honor, walang pong tumating po ng report.
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In fact, before po nangyayari, I think two weeks po before nangyayari po yung raid,
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nag-invite po sila sa amin, kasama po ang LGU po,
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para sa isang open house po na visitation po.
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Nakakapasok naman po yung mga empleyado po ng LGU po,
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doon, wala rin pong dumarating po ng report po sa opisina po namin,
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at mayroon din po kami ordinansa po, resolution po,
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na galing po sa Sangguniang Bayan po,
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na nina-require po ng konseho po ang aking local police po,
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na mag-report, mag-submit po sila ng report po in a weekly basis.
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Walang pong dumarating din po ng report po sa amin,
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na mayroon pong nangyayari po na any crime po sa loob.
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Anong ginawa po nyo nung natuklasan nyo na re-naid sila,
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na may mga illegal activities doon sa lugar kung saan kayo ay party dati,
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na sabi nyo nag-divest na kayo, and what have you done?
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Your Honor, gumawa po ako ng isang team po para mag-investigate po sana sa loob,
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however po hindi po sila nakapasok,
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at gumawa rin po ako ng isang team po na galing po sa labas,
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para imbestigahan po yung mga naging empleyado po sa loob,
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yung mga housekeeper po, na tinanong po namin sila ano ba talaga nangyari,
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meron po ba kayo nakita na tinuturis?
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We're sure po, unfortunately po, ang sagot po nila sa amin ay wala po.
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And 200 plus po kasing naging empleyado po na local po doon sa site,
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at one of the reason din po na sa housekeeper po kami nagtatanong,
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kasi po I believe po yung mga housekeeping po,
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nakakaikot po sila ng entire compound,
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at kung meron pong mga crime po na ginagawa po,
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kahit pa pano sila po yung makakuha po ng information po kaagad.
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Before 2022, Mayor Go, anong trabaho nyo? Anong ginagawa nyo?
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Although you said it in the hearing, I just wanted to hear it again.
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Ako po ay isang magbababoy po. Farmer po ako. Figury po yung negosyo ko.
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Sino po ang nag-urge sa inyo? Sino po ang nag-enganyo kayo,
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nag-inspire sa inyo na tumakbo bilang Mayor ng Banban?
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Sarili ko po. Childhood dream ko po.
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Ah, childhood dream.
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Opo, ay gusto ko po na papakita sa tatay.
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At gusto ko po maging proud po siya sa akin.
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San ba yung childhood nyo?
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Dito po, sa Pilipinas po.
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Saan po, sa Pilipinas?
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Saan po kayo napanganak?
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Nakita ko po dito po sa birth certificate ko po, hilot po.
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At iniwanan po ako ng nanay.
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Hindi, saan kayo napanganak?
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Nakita ko po dito sa birth certificate ko po, hilot.
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Hindi, hindi ko po tinatanong yung proseso ng papanganak sa inyo.
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Saan po? Saan pong lugar?
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Sa Central Luzon?
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Saan po sa Tarlac?
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Matatalaib Tarlac po.
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Matatalaib Tarlac po.
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Is that the barangay?
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Yes po, nakita ko po dito sa birth certificate ko po.
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Now, you would have recollection of your childhood, right?
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Can you just give us a recollection of your childhood?
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Sino po yung best friend nyo?
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Saan po kayo nag-aral?
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Kung meron kayong makamag-anak?
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You're only 38 years old.
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You will remember your childhood.
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I'm double your age but I would remember my childhood in Malabon.
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I know homeschool.
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I can't believe anyone is totally homeschooled all her life.
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Please tell us about your childhood.
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Your Honor, lumaki po ako sa farm.
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In what barangay?
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Barangay Vergen de los Remedios.
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Pamban Tarlac din po.
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From the one po sa QJJ, yung katabi lang po niya.
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Nabenta po siya year 2000.
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Hindi ko po malala yung date kung kailan po siya nabenta.
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Tapos nakabili po ulit ng property po sa tabi at doon po nagtayo ulit.
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Lumaki po ako sa farm, Your Honor.
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Tinago po ako ng tatay ko po.
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Lumaki po ako na ako lang po.
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Pinupuntahan po ako ng tatay ko po araw-araw.
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Lumaki kayo mag-isa?
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Kasama po po ang katulong.
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Ako po yung mga kasamahan ko po sa farm.
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Sino po yung mga kasamahan nyo sa farm?
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Sino yung katulong na naaalala nyo?
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At sino yung nag-alaga mula kayong napanganak 38 years ago?
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At binibisita kayong ama nyo mula saan?
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At tell us about your childhood.
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Your Honor, sa farm po ako lumaki.
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Sa bamban po ako lumaki.
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Lumaki po ako mag-isa.
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Pinupuntahan po ako ng tatay ko.
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You cannot grow up alone from the time you were born.
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So the formative years from age, from the time your mother birthed you,
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up to perhaps 10 years old,
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sino po yung inyong naging caregiver o yaya?
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Hindi lang pwedeng mag-isa lang po kayo sa farm.
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Binibisita kayo ng ama nyo mula saan?
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So sino po yung kasambahay nyo na nagpalaki sa inyo?
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Sino po yung sabi nyong mga kaibigan nyo, kasama nyo sa farm?
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In short, I'll be very honest.
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Please convince us that you were born in the Philippines,
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that you are Filipino,
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and that you are not what people suspect you to be.
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Dederechoyin ko na po.
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Kumbinsihin mo kami kasi hindi po pwedeng hindi nyo maalala
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yung inyong first few years of living na formative years.
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Para makumbinsi kami,
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because we want to be convinced that all elected officials are Filipinos
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and not spies of other countries.
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So as a nationally elected official,
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and I won in Tarlac, number one I think, or two,
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and I won in Banban,
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perhaps you even carried me a sample ballot,
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So if you're really Chinese and fronting for other people,
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go back to your country.
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But if you are Filipino and you were born here,
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convince us because we want to be convinced.
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So I'm trying to help you by trying to make you recall about your childhood.
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Kasi parang scripted.
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Kasi I was born on this.
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This is what I can remember.
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And then when I ask you the same question,
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it's the same rote.
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lumaki po ako sa...
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Lumaki po ako sa farm.
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Anong barangay, anong farm,
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sino po yung nag-alaga sa inyong sabi nyo
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na binibisita kayo ng ama nyo,
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ano yung family situation,
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sino pong makalaro nyo, kaklase nyo,
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kung homeschool kayo,
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sino pong nag-homeschool sa inyo, ganun po.
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ako po ay lumaki po sa barangay Vergen de los Remedios,
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Banban, Tarlac po.
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Ako po ay isang Filipino,
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lumaki po ako kasama po yung mga empleyado po namin sa farm.
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Ipa-provide ko rin po yung mga pangalan.
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Come and go din po naman kasi yung mga naging empleyado po.
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38 years ago po, Madam Senador,
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wala po ako talagang maalala ng sobra,
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pero meron pa po ako isang kasama ngayon po
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na matagal na po sa amin, si Mang Bui po,
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na hanggang ngayon, kasama ko pa rin po siya.
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baka pwede ko po siya i-present din po dito
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para makilala nyo po.
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14 years old pa lang po ako,
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nagtatrabaho na po ako.
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Kilala po ako ng barangay chairman
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na mentioned po kanina na,
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ipapakalala po ako.
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At bumibili na po ako ng mais.
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Pwede po ako mag-present po ng mga pangalan po nila
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na magpapaalam lang po ako sa kanila
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kung pwede ko po sila i-disclose po yung names po nila.
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Excuse me, San Loren.
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Kung pwedeng idagdag.
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Kung kaugnay nyo lahat ng mga taong ito
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mula nung pagkabata nyo,
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pwede nyo bang ikwentos
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ng mahaba-haba ng konti in kapampangan?
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kausap nyo sila sa sarili nilang lenguahe.
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Meron din pong kapampangan,
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pero yung mga kasama ko po sa loob ng farm po,
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Kasi ang pigiri po,
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hindi po sila lumalabas.
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just for the record,
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may mga nag-o-observe
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na mga kababayan natin,
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pati mga netizens
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na mga kapampangan,
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yan po ang tanong nila sa inyo.
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Kasi kapampangan po
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ang lingwahe nila.
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Anyway, San Loren,
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Thank you for that interjection.
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It's very helpful.
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Magsalita po kayo
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kung kayo'y lumaki
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sobrang konti lang po.
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What Chinese language
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Fukian or Mandarin?
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I can speak Fukian po.
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Okay, speak in Fukian now.
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Tell us more about
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your life in China.
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Wala po akong life po
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Dito po akong lumaki
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Tell us about your life
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in the Philippines
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Tell us about your family
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in China, in Fukian.
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Family ko po in China.
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Please tell us about
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and he visits you,
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used to visit you
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when you were a child
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and the family of your father
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and where are you
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We have interpreters
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I can understand a little.
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Gua umsi Tiongkok lang.
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Gua si Filipin lang.
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Tell us about your relatives.
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San sa bansang Sina
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at ano ang ginagawa nyo?
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Sinabi nyo embroidery, etc.
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Negosyo at makamag-anak nyo doon.
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San Lauren, before she answers
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maybe we can ask Ms. Batay
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our Chinese interpreter
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just to interpret to us
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what the mayor said.
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the interpretation would be
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my father is from China
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I am not a Chinese
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I mean you're obviously
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if your father is full Chinese
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and your mother you claim
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is Filipino, right?
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ako po ay isang Filipino
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at ang tatay ko po ay Chinese.
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kung hindi man po ako full-blooded
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po na 100% po na Filipino
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dahil po sa tatay ko
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ako po ay isang Filipino po.
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What do you recall
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in 1986 when you were born?
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that you obtained your birth certificate?
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sometimes people only have their birth certificates much later.
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But tell us the process of
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obtaining your birth certificate
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What year did you get your birth certificate?
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Ms. Lauren, if I may just quickly add to your earlier question.
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Please proceed, Madam Chairman.
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May or may childhood photos ba kayo sa bamban?
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nung bata po ako, Madam Chairman
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hindi po talaga uso cellphone
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pero sa nangyari po
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meron po mga circulation po ng mga pictures ko po
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ng teenage life ko po.
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I can provide po.
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In fact, hindi ko po alam na
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meron po pala ang ganun picture.
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Could you kindly give us
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the earliest photos of yourself
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workmates, playmates
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exclusive and closed farm
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and your relatives in China
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and your father's relatives
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and the time that you were born
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Hindi naman, okay, walang cellphone
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but you must have photos.
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And proof of your homeschooling?
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Siyempre, pag homeschooled,
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meron pa rin yan mga report card,
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hard copy pa nun, hindi pa soft copy eh.
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Yes po, Your Honor.
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Hahanapin ko po yung mga picture po.
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Pati po yung mga tao po,
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pati po yung mga empleyado po,
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What was the situation,
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Mayor Guo, nung 1986
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when you were born,
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where was your mother, where was your mother?
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Where were your parents?
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And sa mga binibisita kayo ng iyong ama
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at ang kasama nyong lumaki
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ay sino? Fill in the blanks, please.
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1986 po nung pinanganak po ako,
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dahil baby pa po ako po ako nun.
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may nakikita po ako mga kasama po
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naging kasama po,
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naging partner po ng tatay ko po.
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At lumaki po ako sa farm,
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isa na rin po yung na-mention ko po
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sa nakaraan po na sanitary
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si teacher Ruby Lim po, nakasama ko rin po siya.
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Well, can you please state
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once again your mother's name?
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Biological mother ko po.
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And have you ever met her?
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Hindi ko po siya nakasama.
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Have you ever met her? Hindi po.
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From the time you were born,
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from 86, hindi po nyo na sila yan?
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Kailangan po nyo sa inyong ama
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o sa mga kalaro nyo kasamahan sa farm?
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Your Honor, how I wish po
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I have a perfect family po.
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No, we lead imperfect lives.
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So I don't want to intrude on that.
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I just wanted to make sure.
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So, sa pagkaalam ba nyo ay Pilipino ang inyong ina?
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Yan po ang sinabi po sa akin ng tatay ko po.
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At lumaki po ako dito sa Pilipinas po.
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Madam Senador, wala rin po akong
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ibang citizenship kung hindi Filipino lang po.
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How did you acquire
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How did you obtain your birth certificate in 2005?
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Minigay po sa akin.
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Hindi po ako yung nag-prepare po nitong birth certificate.
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Hiningi ko po sa tatay ko po
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yung birth certificate ko po.
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Was this discussed, Madam Chair?
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already look at the birth certificate?
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That was what was being discussed earlier, right?
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When I arrived. Yes.
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So that was, we will
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find the, we will ask
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for the report from the PSA
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on the authenticity
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of that birth certificate.
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So tell us more. I know that time
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childhood situation.
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I don't want to be intrusive.
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And there's no reason
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to explain about our, all of us
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have imperfect lives. But tell us about
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your childhood so we get to
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know you better and
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your Chinese playmates,
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if any, Filipino associates
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or playmates, if any,
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and your family in China.
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In Phuket, please.
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We want to hear you speak
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your language. Ang language ko po
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ay Tagalog po, Senator. Ako po ay
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isang Filipino. Sa farm po, ang gamit po
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ng namin lingwahe po ay Tagalog po.
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But speak Phuket. I just want to hear it.
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I can speak Phuket po, pero ang ginagamit po
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na lingwahe po sa farm po
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ay Tagalog. There's nothing
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wrong with knowing languages.
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If you're good in Phuket, speak it, right?
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For after all, your father's Chinese
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and you're half Chinese.
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Don't be ashamed of that.
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Hindi naman po ako nahihiyan,
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naman po ako na-ashamed. Madam
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Senador, mas kaya ko po
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fluent sa Tagalog
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kasi yan naman po ang mother tongue
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ko po kaysa sa po sa Chinese
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language po. Kaya ako
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okay lang po na ikwento ko po in Tagalog.
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Okay, proceed. If you don't like
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to speak the language
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then speak in Filipino.
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Briefly please, Mayor, dahil
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malapit na tayo mag-suspend for today.
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Thank you. Just brief. Thank you, Madam
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Lumaki po ako sa farm.
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Fourteen years old pa lang po ako.
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Nag-aalaga na po ako ng baboy.
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Ako rin po nagbebenta po
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ng mga fatiners po na nila
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labas po ng farm. Medyo hindi po yung
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negosyo. Mula po 1986
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when you were born,
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your recollection, 86
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to the time you obtained your birth certificate
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Madam Senador po,
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nung maliit na maliit pa lang po ako
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nung 1986 po, wala na po
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talagang malala. Although, ayoko po talaga
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ma-mention yung word na wala po ako malala.
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Pero wala po talaga ako malala. No, I'm not asking about
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the day you were born. Obviously, nobody knows that.
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Any of us. I said
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Between the day you were born
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and nine years old,
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you would have some recollection. Eh, ako nga po
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doble ng age nyo. Naaalala ko pa yung
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childhood ko na ako'y five years old eh.
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Kilala ko pa yung grade school teachers ko eh.
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Huwag tayo magpilosopo po dito.
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Obviously, I'm not asking you how was it
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when you were born. Hindi po.
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Madam Senador, lumaki po ako
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Ulit-ulit naman. Parang memoryado nyo.
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Kasi kino-coach ka ng lawyers mo
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siguro. Just, you know,
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magkwento. Parang kaibigan. Parang
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nagpunta Senador sa iyo. O, Mayor, kamusta na kayo?
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Kamusta ang buhay nyo dito? Napaka na kayo sa farm?
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How was your life when you were
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born? O, ganun. Sino yung neighbors
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nyo? Playmates nyo? Paano yung pamilya?
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Binibisita ka ng ama mo? Ganun. Kwento lang.
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Sa Filipino, as you claim. Opo.
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Gustong-gusto ko po magkwento.
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Ang playmates ko po doon sa farm ay yung
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mga dati po na may empleyado rin po.
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Kaminggo po yung mga tao pero may mga
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luma, mga matatagal po po na may empleyado.
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Pagbalik ko po ngayon
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araw, hahanapin ko po sila. At sa
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susunod po ng Senate hearing, isasama ko na lang
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din po sila. Aaralin pa ng mga abogado.
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anything. When I say, your first
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ten years of your life, the first nine years
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of your life. Kilala ko pa yata yung isang abogado mo
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sa likod mo. Anyway, the first nine
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years of your life, what is the first image
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that comes? Tell us about
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your farm life. Must be
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a charming, idyllic life, right?
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po ako ng farm. Di po ako pinag-aral
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po ng tatay ko po. Ang nagtuturo
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po sa akin si teacher Ruby Lim po
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na na-mention ko po nung nakaraan
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na Senate hearing. And how I
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wish po really, Madam Senador, na I have
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a perfect life po. However po, pinalaki po ko sa farm.
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No, we're not talking about imperfections or perfection.
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Kwento lang nga eh.
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Nine, ten years po.
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Siyempre man, Mayor, may maalala. Thirty-eight ka lang eh.
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Opo, sa farm nga po
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ko lumaki po, Madam Senador.
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Hindi po naging normal po
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hindi po naging normal po yung buhay ko po.
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I'm not asking nga normal or...
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Madam Chair, I know that time
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want to get to know the Mayor.
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As I said, we're giving you the opportunity
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to prove to us that you are
26:23.7
We ask you the questions
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which I would ask normal people.
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What I would ask you,
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Risa, tell me about your childhood, right?
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Sorry, in our childhood, I talk about my child...
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Nothing to be defensive about.
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You don't have to say the same thing. Basta sa farm po.
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Tell us about your child. Ako sa farm.
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Tell us about your child. Sa farm.
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Ano ba? Huwag tayo robot.
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Tell us about your childhood.
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So we're convinced that you have a
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childhood in the Philippines.
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And if we ask you
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to speak about a foreign language,
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to speak in a foreign language
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that you are nabihasa ka,
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Hindi mas magaling po ako sa Pilipino.
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Ba't may kakaya kung magaling sa Phukin?
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Kung magaling ka magmandarin?
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Wala, maganda nga. Marami ka.
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I will leave it at that.
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And I will ask more questions
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in the next hearing because
27:13.7
ano ba ang ating pinupunto dito?
27:17.7
ang ating mga ahensyo ng gobyerno
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ay hindi nagpapahintulot
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ng mga sindikatong kriminal
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na nagbibigay ng mga peking birth certificate
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at ibang dokumento
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na nabibigay ng mga peking birth certificate
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na nabibigyan tuloy
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Philippine passports
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o nakakabigay ng ID
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ng Philippine government agencies
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na nade-deprive tuloy ang ibang Pilipino
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sa mga binipisyo.
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At hindi lang yan, maaari pa
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without judging you or pre-judging you
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na mahalal sa mga
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posisyon na maaaring maging
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national security issue.
27:55.7
I'm basing it on what I've heard
27:57.7
and read and I'm giving you
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the chance to prove that
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you are Filipino.
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So I will leave it at that.
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Thank you very much Madam Chair
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for the time and the patience
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and I would like for her to submit
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the photos that you requested,
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the name of the teacher
28:15.7
and perhaps the teacher who helped her
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homeschooling, names of employees,
28:19.7
their full names,
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photos, addresses,
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You must have a neighbor who knew you
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Imposible mo walang may kilala.
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Hindi pwedeng sumulpot ko na lang ng 2005
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tapos I'm Filipino, I'm here.
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Okay. Yun po. I leave it at that.
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I'm not yet convinced but I really
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sincerely want to be convinced
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because it would break my heart
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if we have a foreigner who has
28:45.7
who is an elected official.
28:47.7
It would break my heart.
28:51.7
It's really a national security risk.
28:53.7
So I'll be very strict
28:55.7
with DFA and with the
29:01.7
You better straighten it out.
29:03.7
Yung mga sindikato nandiyan sa mga ahensya ng gobyerno
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na nagbenta ng mga birth certificates.
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Thank you, Madam Chair.
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Salamat din, Sen. Lauren.
