Real Estate Broker ng POGO NAPUTUKAN ng SISI at IMBESTIGASYON pati Brgy. Kapitan naki AHENTE ng LUPA
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Pag-i-turn off mo yun, ano.
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Last year-ing ka pa.
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And until now, you're lying.
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Kanina, you're accusing some brokers.
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Naka-kompetensya mo.
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And now, you cannot name names.
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Oh, you're lying!
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Empliado ka ba ng ROD?
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Anong position mo doon?
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Nasa field o sa office?
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Ah, entry clerk po ng certified true copy.
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Ah, do you know Daisy?
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Oh, nakikita ko po siya.
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Ay, napunta sa office.
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Nakikita mo? Wala kang transaction sa kanya?
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Ah, lumalapit po sa pag nagpapa-entry po siya.
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Ang certified true copy.
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Lumalapit sa iyo?
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Lumalapit din po.
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O Daisy, kilala mo siya?
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O paano mo siya nagkilala?
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Um, sa regular ko pong pagpapatransfer ng title.
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So, all transfer of titles,
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naginagawa mo kay Jimmy mo?
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Ano, nung time po na nag-transfer ako,
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si Sir Jimmy doon sa,
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ah, doon sa labas.
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Sa kanya ko po binigay yung documents.
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Akala ko po sa kanya in-entry.
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Dahil po ginagawa during that time yung office.
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O, anong, anong, anong documents yun?
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Anong properties?
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Ah, yung transfer of title po.
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Yung kay A.D. Young po, sa Lakeshore.
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A.D. Young sa Lakeshore, doon sa bahay niya?
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Oh, that was the first?
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Wala na po, yun lang po.
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Yung tatlong titles.
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Ayun kay Rudingo.
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Ayun po, tinransfer ko po sa buyer ng si Rudingo.
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Eh, D.C. nagsisilimanin kayo kung hindi kita tatalungin.
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Kay A.D. Young po, tinransfer ko po sa pangalan ni Rudingo.
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Eh, eh, D.C. ah, sabihin mo lang lahat.
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Sabihin mo lang lahat.
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Kasi alam din namin kung anong lahat ng mga transaction mo.
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Well, in fact, we have videos na nandun ka kahit sa mga gatherings.
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Anong wala? Do you want it to be produced, i-play namin?
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Huwag kang magsinungaling, nandyan ka.
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Gatherings po saan po? Parang hindi ko natatanda.
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Eh, may mga events ba na magkasama kayo ng A.D. Young?
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Pag-i-check niyo nga yung video o pictures na, no?
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Eto, sinungaling to.
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So, trabaho mo ba?
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Parang labas dyan, sa labas ka raw nagkita.
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That was the first transfer of title?
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Hindi po, meron po kaming makeshift building po ro'n dahil ginagawa po yung building.
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Pumunta po siya ro'n, doon po yung certified through copy na entry.
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Numa-copy po siya sa'kin.
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Pero, that was the first and the last?
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Hindi ko na po matanda na, Your Honor.
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Anong hindi matandaan?
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Kasi kung maaari talagang napupuntang mga tao sa amin, almost 120 persons yung in-enter namin mga certified through copy po.
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Hindi, ang tanong ko nga sa inyo, yung transaction ni Kairos, kailan yun?
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Hindi ko na po matandaan.
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Okay, Ross. Kailan yun?
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Hindi na po kasi namin.
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Dato sa year ago, tapos hindi mo matandaan?
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Eh, pag ano po kasi hindi na namin na ano yung mga, dami po kasing tao.
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Eh, hindi kaya sabi mo, namamukahan mo si Daisy.
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That was October 23 and that was...
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The transfer of Paytel from Ediang to Rodingo.
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Oh, last year lang yung Jimmy.
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Sir, eh, pag tatransfer po kasi, kumisyan, hindi ko na matandaan kailan yung dinala nila. Ganon.
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Ma'am, is it here?
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Tama po kung sa'yo nang sabi, is it a practice in your office na ganon?
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Your Honor, it appears from the time that it... ah, the documents of the transfer from, from from Ediang to Rodingo, our buildings being renovated. So, I couldn't really get anything
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I confirm that we have a
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makeshift office at the
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front of the office
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so that all certified true copies will be
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requested there. And
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Mr. Jimmy Simpaco
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was assigned there.
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Kasi balikan ko lang
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kasi we started this investigation
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August. And the transfer
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of title happens October.
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si Eddie Young, before October
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he was already sighted in contempt.
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Your Honor, we were not yet
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aware of those circumstances.
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Eh nandito ka noon? Wala ka ba dito
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nung first second hearing?
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Sino yung nandito noon?
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The representative of the LRA?
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I don't remember anymore but I came
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to know of the circumstances
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regarding Eddie Young
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sometime in November 27.
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Bakit November 27?
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Matandaan mo yung November 27,
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Because we heard you say it in your
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opening statement in one of the
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hearings, Your Honor. And what was the first time
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that you attended the hearing?
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sure, Your Honor, if that was the first time.
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But I was, it was not
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actually in November 27 that I heard
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the opening statement. It was
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It was, I remember, I
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subpoenaed but I was on leave
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6 and then we had
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a hearing. Anyway,
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ito naman tayo, diba?
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Kasi pag tinanong naman kayo, bakit ganon?
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Ang sinasabing niyo lagi, ministerial.
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Diba? May transfer,
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et cetera, et cetera.
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Well, in fact, may problema nga dun sa
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diba, sa notary public?
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Na-establish niya yung last hearing?
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And you recognize that, ano,
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that problem, diba?
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Ay, dininay ng ano eh?
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O, eto si, ano, si Daisy,
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until now, you're not telling this committee
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the truth because
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mismo yung notary public
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in that document,
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So, nagsisinunod,
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ah, hindi ko po yun tinorge.
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In good faith po,
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nagpanotaryo po ako.
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I don't know po, ah, ano pong ginawa
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nung mga sekretary niya dun.
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Meron pong, eto po yung mga...
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I would say that you forge it.
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Nobody accuses you of forging it.
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Ang sinasabi ko lang is,
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and it was confirmed during the previous hearing,
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Nang notary public.
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Eka, you keep on insisting
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Na, well, in fact, yung Quezon City,
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na sinasabi yung opisina, it was already established
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last hearing din.
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Yes, po. Yung J5MB
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Documentary Services po.
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Documentation Services.
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Eh, di nangay-ngay.
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Nang notary public.
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Dun po ako nagpanotaryo.
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binigay ko po din sa sekretary
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yung dokumento, lumabas po siya.
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Yung pong sekretary
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sa loob ng documentation
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na mga transaction na ediang with regards
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to the properties, yung tatlo
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na properties niya, ganun din ang ngyari?
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Yan nga po yung pinanotaryo
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ko dun. And then before that, sino
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nag-facilitate nung properties
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Hindi po ako na-transfer. Ibang broker
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po siguro. Baka in-house broker po
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dun sa Lakeshore.
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Barangay Kapten Lorenzo.
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Ah, ng San Lorenzo.
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Si Kapitan saan ba?
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Nandito pa ba si Kapitan?
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kilala mo ba siya?
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Hindi mo kilala si...
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Ay, hindi mo kilala?
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minsan lang ha, pag may mag-testify
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most of the transaction being made by
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Daisy Quiroz dumadaan sa'yo,
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Paki-repet na lang po yung tanong.
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As yung sabi ko, if somebody will testify
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that that is not only the first and the last
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transaction being made by Daisy Quiroz
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to you, personally,
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magka-problema ka.
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ano yung recollection mo, ah?
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Lagi po siya nagpupunta, certified
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through copy lang po.
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Lagi siyang pumupunta, certified
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through copy lang.
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Certified through copy po yung nire-
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Signed shirt, hindi lang
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Opo, na-champion lang po yung
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binigay niya sa akin noon, sale.
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Tinignan ko lang po, tapos
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inayos lang, tapos pinapunta ko na siya
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sa loob. Pipila siya.
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So, mga ilang beses yun, nakita mo siya
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doon, nagpo-process?
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Lagi po siya doon, pero
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hindi po akong laging kausap.
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But, Daisy, lagi ka daw doon.
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So, it's not only that property.
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Hello po. Iba pong property yun
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sa San Jose, San Simon
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at saka po, Sukad Apalit,
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Mampanga po yung pinapacertified
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through copy ko. Kanino yan?
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Doon sa mga farmers po.
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So, yung ID yang itong
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tatlong property lang?
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Hindi ko po alam yung iba po.
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Hindi, sinasabi ko nga ito lang yung
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tatlong property na may
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transaction ka with ID yang?
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Yes po. Yan lang po pinatransfer sa akin.
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nakilala ko po si
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Nang San Simon? Yes po.
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So, yung sa San Florian?
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Hindi po. Marami po
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kasing mga hente.
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Meron po akong binenta rin po sa Global
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Asia na meron po sa iba-iba
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nakilala ko po si Mayor Awang
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as Mayor sa San Simon. Minsan po,
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nagahanap po sa akin ng
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property na pwedeng
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yalok sa Global Asia na.
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ang tanong ko kanina,
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kasakasama mo sa isang gathering si Eddie Young
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that you will be close to Eddie Young,
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mayroong problema mo yun?
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I will cite you in contempt.
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Yes po. Nung pong
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year 2018 po yan.
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Anong gatherings? Anong events?
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Meron po akong tinanong
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birthday niya. That was 2018.
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Birthday po niya. Ay, Christmas party po.
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That was 2018 po.
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Christmas party? Yes po.
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Nung pong, ano, yung pong mga
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O, yun natin, employee of Eddie Young?
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Talagang, pag hindi kita tinanong
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ayaw mo mag-operate?
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hindi. Kanina ka po eh.
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Yung pong tatanong niya,
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yan lang po kasi sinasagot po.
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Hindi, ang sinasabi ko nga,
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kanina nung tinanong kita,
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sabi mo, hindi mo masyadong
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kilala si Eddie Young.
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Nung tinanong kita,
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if somebody will prove that indeed,
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nandun ka sa isang gathering,
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sabi mo kanina, hindi.
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Hindi, naalala ko na nga po
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umaten po ako ng Christmas party.
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ako tapos sa iyo.
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Yes, please proceed.
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Pwede ko po bang malaman
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Paano mo na-meet si Eddie Young?
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Sino ang nag-introduce sa iyo?
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Hindi ko nakuha kanina
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yung sagot mo eh.
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nakatransact ko po si
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regarding po dun sa subject
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ang nagkwan sa iyo is
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late Vice Mayor Wong.
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binigyan ka ng authority
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Ano yung authority na yun?
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it was to facilitate
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sales and notarizing documents.
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Sinabi mo rin dun sa hearing na yun
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that you confirmed
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that you're a licensed broker.
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Having obtained yung
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broker's license mo
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And you agreed to submit
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your license records
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Committee for Verification.
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As a matter of fact,
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you were required to submit
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proof of your broker's license.
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May submit mo na?
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Hindi po ako na notify about that.
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Na submit ko yung proof.
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Sinagot mo ngayon.
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Binabasa ko ngayon
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identification card po.
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Hindi ba ni-require ka
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na mag-submit ka ng proof
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na licensed broker's license?
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Licensed broker ka?
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Nag-submit ka na ba
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Kung sik, may I know
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if the resource person
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is telling the truth?
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we have not yet received
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identification card po.
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Makukulong ka rin sa Bikutan.
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Kasi bawal na rin itong
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dahil may sona sa
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Ang naisubmit ko po
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PRC license ko po
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Our staff denies it.
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Nag-submit po ako
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nung last time po.
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yung PRC license ko na
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yung pong ano dito.
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May korong pa ba tayo?
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We still have a korum
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We still have a korum?
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nagsisinungaling ka eh.
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nag-submit po ako
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Ano nga ang proof mo
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Xerox copy po yung
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Pwede mo yung tanong ko muna dahil ini-establish ko na kung paano kita isa-site in contact.
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May we direct the resource speaker to please present any proof of your submission of the PRC ID?
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It is a common practice when you submit something, you should have something to show as proof.
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Yes, do you have a receiving copy of that PRC license to prove that you indeed submitted to this committee?
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Ano po, inano ko lang po, binigay ko lang po yung Xerox copy sa band paper na naka-Xerox po yung PRC license ko.
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Yun lang po sinubmit ko last time.
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That is not a valid submission, Ms. Daisy Quiroz?
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You acknowledge that?
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In your representation that you did not ask for any receiving of your PRC license, that is tantamount to saying that there was no valid submission of the requirement that is being asked from you.
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Ms. Quiroz, saan mo pinaserox yung dokumentong yan?
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Dala-dala ko po last time.
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Dala mo rito sa hearing?
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And dito ka nagpaserox?
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Hindi po, dala-dala ko na po siya xerox copy.
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Dala ka ng xerox?
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Nung last time po.
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And then you submitted it to the ComSec here?
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And then you never asked for any receiving copy coming from the ComSec?
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Kasi they were denying that you have submitted that documents.
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And we will be asking you to refrain from lying.
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If you did not submit it, then say it.
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Wala namang problema eh.
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Kaya sa makontemp ka.
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Ito po yung original.
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Talagang sinubmit mo dito.
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Yan ang sinubmit mo o yung xerox copy?
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Meron pa pong tatlong signature yun.
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At wala kang receiving copy na natanggap ng mga ComSec?
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Kasi this ComSec will never lie.
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If you have submitted some documents pertaining to your statement,
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they will tell us.
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Kasi wala silang nareceive.
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Yan ang problem mo eh.
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Hindi ko po nareceive siguro.
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Hindi ko na pa receive.
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Mr. Chairman, ako.
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So, instead na sabihin mo na nagkamali ka,
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pinaninindigan mo eh.
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Kasi parang biniblay mo yung ating ComSec
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that they never, that they receive something from you,
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but in actuality, wala ka naman sinubmit.
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Mr. Chairman, may I submit?
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Kung wala po, eto po yung PRCA ID ko,
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pwede ko naman pong isubmit yung.
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That is not the point.
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Hindi yan ang point.
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Hindi po yun ang punto, Stessie.
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Ang galing mo naman,
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na alam mo kagad, bago ka dumating dito,
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na kailangan namin yung proof ng license mo as a broker,
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na nagdala ka kagad ng Xerox copy.
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Kaya yung tanong ni the Aurora Boldan Fernandez,
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saan mo pinaserok?
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Kasi nung araw na yun,
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noon lang namin hiningi yun eh,
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na isasubmit mo sa next meeting.
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wala naman sa minutes of the,
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na ikaw ay pinagsubmit namin ng iyong Kwan.
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Ang nasa minutes eh,
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tong araw na ito.
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Eh, nagsisinungaling ka eh.
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Anyway, kung ano po, pero po.
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Hindi yun ang punto.
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Ang punto ron, nagsisinungaling ka eh.
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Eh, bawal dito magsinungaling kasi.
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Eh, nanong pa ka na magsasabi ka,
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Mali na dun ang timano.
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I'm sorry po kung yun mo po kasi natatandaan.
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Mr. Chair, I think you have some questions?
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This will be the last question.
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alam mo may korong kami dito.
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Si Chairman Barber,
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sa sa labas lang,
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as permission to the Chair,
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whatever will be the vote of the members,
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they will join the,
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and they will monitor it now.
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we have two in the Zoom.
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ang total numbers of members,
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including the Zoom,
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And we will need eight as seven.
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Now, last question ko.
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bahala na yung mga members dito.
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Sabi mo kasi kanina,
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it's only in one occasion.
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Makasama kayo ni Eddie Tayang.
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I'm telling this committee na hindi ka-associate ni Eddie Tayang.
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I'm telling this committee na hindi ka-associate ni Eddie Tayang.
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I'm telling this committee na hindi ka-associate ni Eddie Tayang.
24:06.4
I'm telling this committee na hindi ka-associate ni Eddie Tayang.
24:07.4
I'm telling this committee na hindi ka-associate ni Eddie Tayang.
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Tanong ngayong kita,
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may mga gatherings pa ba
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na sumama kung wala?
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May mga gatherings pa ba?
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pinakalatest na gathering before Teddy Tayang was cited in contempt in this committee?
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nagsisinungaling ka?
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Wala po akong matandaan yun,
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nagsisinungaling ka?
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And nagsisinungaling ka?
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Because you will never forget that.
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And nagsisinungaling ka?
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Because you will never forget that.
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Because that was the time when Mayor Uding assumes office as the Mayor of Mexico, Pampanga,
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when a special order was issued by Ombudsman.
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It was a gathering of all investors and you were there.
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hindi ko po matandaan yun
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ay yan ang pinaka
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the best excuse of all liars
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laging hindi matandaan
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puso na yan, matagal na
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ayun honor, hindi ko nga po matandaan
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yung, basta last time ko po
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eh tanda, tandaan mo nga yung 2018
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na Christmas party
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nandun lahat ng mga investor
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and that includes Eddie T. Young
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and you were there
25:36.2
wala po ako, your honor
25:42.4
nagsisinuling yung mga members dito
25:50.1
that you were there
25:52.0
kasi alam, alam ng mga
25:54.8
ng isang member dito
25:57.6
some members in this house, in this 19th congress
26:03.4
you are facilitating all the documents
26:09.0
hindi po, your honor
26:13.1
marami naman po, marami naman po kasing
26:15.5
brokers, Eddie, hindi lang po ako
26:17.5
ande, ikaw lang yan
26:20.6
yung involvement mo
26:23.4
oh, you were there
26:26.6
wala po, ako natatandang
26:28.1
dinaluhang investor
26:30.1
Wala po ako doon, Your Honor.
26:33.5
Mr. Chair, yes, Chairman, that, well, anyway, once a liar, we'll always be, we'll always be.
26:42.5
Anyway, ano, ma'am? Anong pangalan ni ma'am?
26:47.5
Daisy, ma'am, Daisy.
26:50.7
Ilan po ba yung mga natransact niyo na kay Mr. Adiang?
26:55.8
Nung San Simon po.
26:58.2
Yung sa San Simon po, tsaka yung sa Lakeshore.
27:01.4
Kasi po, during that time po, na-leave ko.
27:03.8
Wait, wait, wait, yun lang tinatanong ko. Mga ilang transaction niyo po kay Mr. Adiang?
27:09.8
Natatandaan ko po yung sa San Simon.
27:13.0
B, alam mo, you started with our asking you questions with lies, ano?
27:20.2
And it's hard for us to believe anymore the statements that you're going to deliver
27:26.7
on this conversation.
27:28.2
Committee, please refrain, no?
27:31.1
Tingilan na natin.
27:32.1
We will give you a chance na para magbalik yung aming tiwala sa'yo.
27:39.6
What we are asking is yung transactions that you have with Adiang, ano?
27:45.2
So, kanina, tinatanong kita.
27:48.3
So, ilan transaction yung nagawa mo kay Adiang?
27:53.1
Hindi mo makakalimutan yan kasi si Adiang, andaming corporation.
27:56.4
Alam mo ba kung ilang corporation niya?
27:59.9
Limampung corporations at ang dami niyang mga ektarya-ektaryang nabiling lupa.
28:05.7
So, ngayon ang tanong, ilan yung transaction mo sa kanya?
28:11.5
Sa San Simon lang po at saka po yung sa Lakeshore po ang naging transaction dahil po meron na pong ibang ahente na left out na po ako.
28:19.4
O, yung sa San Simon, ilang ektarya ang naging transaction mo?
28:22.9
Mga ano lang po, mga anim na landowners lang po.
28:26.3
Anim na landowners?
28:27.4
Hindi, ilang ektarya?
28:28.2
Hindi, ilang ektarya yun.
28:32.4
Ilan na naging commission mo doon?
28:35.4
5%? Magkano yung 5% na yun?
28:40.6
Kasi we'll be asking sa susunod kung you paid the government specific taxes for that 5%.
28:50.2
Kaya, never lie, no?
28:53.8
So, sa 5% na yun, doon lamang sa sinasabi mo sa San Simon ba yan?
29:01.1
5% po nung, mga ano lang po, yung mga 7 hectares lang po yung nabenta ko.
29:09.1
O, magkano yung 5%?
29:11.2
Doon sa 400 per square meter po.
29:18.6
Anyway, doon sa susunod, ilang ektarya naman ang na-transact mo?
29:25.9
Wala na po kasi na left out na po ako.
29:27.9
Dalawa yung sinasabi mong transaction, di ba?
29:30.6
Yung sa ano lang po, yung sa lakeshore po na pag-transact.
29:33.5
Yung sa lakeshore, ilang ektarya yun?
29:35.6
Bali, 1,500 plus.
29:40.9
Hindi po, square meter po.
29:42.5
Hi, square meter.
29:44.5
So, you have a relationship with Eddie Young?
29:47.8
Wala po, transaction lang po as client ko po.
29:50.8
And the reason why the chair were asking you a while ago,
29:55.7
dahil somebody saw you doon sa...
29:59.1
when the good chair was asking about your presence,
30:02.9
and you cannot remember,
30:05.5
pero ito, yung commission mo, you remember?
30:08.9
Yun lang po kasi natatandaan ko kasi,
30:11.0
nung time na yun...
30:12.4
Mas importante ang relasyon kaysa pera.
30:14.6
O, mas importante ang pera kaysa relasyon.
30:17.7
Ano lang po, relation po na between client ko siya as broker po ako.
30:23.6
And then later po, na-left out na rin na po ako dahil...
30:27.9
Binawalan po ako ng mga kapitan mag-agent doon.
30:31.4
Okay, doon sa percentage na nakuha mo doon sa commission mo,
30:34.6
were you able to pay the necessary taxes?
30:44.0
Nagbabayad ka ba ng income tax?
30:48.7
Can you kindly submit to us?
30:50.9
When was this transaction?
30:56.6
Ito pong kay Eddie Young.
30:57.9
Hindi ko po na-submit.
30:59.0
Sa mga subdivision po na-submit.
31:01.6
Patay ka na dyan.
31:02.4
Hindi ka nagbabayad ng tamang buwis.
31:05.0
Are you a licensed broker?
31:08.9
You will be suspended or baka maribok ang license mo
31:17.3
for not paying the right taxes in the government.
31:22.3
Please submit to us your ITR
31:23.9
in relation to the year that you have received.
31:27.9
Your percentage of your commission
31:29.8
on that transaction with Eddie Young.
31:33.5
Please submit in the next hearing.
31:39.3
Paano po yung ano?
31:40.4
Kasi po nung time na yun,
31:41.7
sa youth property na bili po ng kumpanya.
31:45.6
Nagbabayad ka ba ng income tax?
31:51.3
Patali mo sagutin yun.
31:52.4
Nagbabayad ka pa lang income tax eh.
31:53.8
Masabit po sa amin.
31:55.0
Kasi po nagbabayad,
31:56.2
paano po yung mga kapitan?
31:57.5
Na ng omission na wala naman po binabayad.
32:01.3
Sino yung mga kapitan na ng omission?
32:04.8
Sino yung mga kapitan na ng omission sa'yo?
32:10.2
This is not a laughing matter.
32:11.7
Quiet, ladies and gentlemen.
32:14.5
this is not a laughing matter, no?
32:18.0
You're depriving the government of the right taxes
32:21.0
that must be paid to the government.
32:24.0
And yung ating mga constituents,
32:26.2
yung mga mahirap natin, mga kamayan,
32:27.5
sila naka-apektohan dito.
32:30.0
yung binigay sa'yong komisyon,
32:32.5
meron ka ba binigay sa mga kapitan?
32:35.3
Meron po mga co-agents po,
32:37.3
divided into share po.
32:40.3
Hindi na namin problema yun.
32:41.3
Ang problema namin yun sa'yo,
32:43.3
yung binakayad mo sa income tax return mo,
32:46.3
Don't tell us that if ever you have a receiving copy,
32:51.3
that you have given a certain percentage to those people,
32:55.3
then, pakita mo sa amin.
32:57.5
And then, we will be accepting
32:59.5
that your commission is not that complete with that 5%.
33:05.5
Kasi nga, nag-share ka.
33:07.5
Pero, siyempre, you have to give it to us
33:10.5
through the ITR and your submission of that document
33:13.5
pertaining to your accusation to other barangay captains.
33:22.5
Okay, Mr. Chair, I will be reserving my questions.
33:25.5
Okay, Mr. Chair, I will be reserving my questions.
33:30.5
In connection to the questions propounded by the Hon. Dan Fernandez,
33:36.5
and in relation to the earlier manifestations of Daisy Quiroz,
33:42.5
may binanggit po kayo na maraming broker si A.D. Young.
33:49.5
Can you please name these other brokers of A.D. Young?
33:55.5
Hindi ko na po kilala yung iba.
33:59.5
So, you can't recall again.
34:01.5
Yung pong iba kasi mga agents lang na walang license.
34:05.5
Even though, can you please name these people who are license agents
34:12.5
or even those who just acted as agents?
34:17.5
Mga kapitan po dun sa San Simon.
34:22.5
Please state their names.
34:23.5
Please state their names.
34:24.5
Hindi po kung kapitan pa rin po sila ngayon.
34:29.5
State their names.
34:32.5
Kilala ko po kasi dun.
34:34.5
Nagbawal sakin si Randy ng Barangay San Pablo po.
34:41.5
San Pablo. Who else?
34:44.5
Can you please provide the last name of Kapitan Randy of San Pablo?
34:51.5
Ano pong apelido niya?
34:53.5
Randy. Hindi ko po alam.
34:57.5
Hindi ko po alam yung surname po niya.
35:02.5
Yung po kasing iba, hindi ko na po inaalam.
35:04.5
Basta yung nagbawal po sakin si Kap Bandu po ang binawalan ako magbenta.
35:09.5
You mentioned that you were prevented, prohibited from continuing the transactions.
35:15.5
Bakit po ba kayo pinagbawalan ni Kapitan Randy?
35:19.5
Gusto niya po, hindi po si Kap Randy.
35:22.5
Si Kap Bando po nung time niya.
35:25.5
Who is that? Kap Lando?
35:30.5
Ano pong apelido nitong si Kap Bando?
35:33.5
Hindi po po alam.
35:36.5
Ibig sabihin nito, Miss Daisy, there were transactions during the time of Kap Randy separate from the transactions during the time of Kap Bando.
35:46.5
Anong taon itong kay Kap Bando?
35:51.5
At ito pong kay Kap Randy?
35:57.5
How come nagkaroon po ng transition ng dalawang Kapitan during the same year of 2018?
36:08.5
Opo. Yung pong lugar na nasa sakupan nila nag-o-offer po si Nanalote.
36:15.5
The same barangay na siya.
36:17.5
Yung barangay Kap Randy.
36:19.5
Are these two barangay captains both from San Pablo?
36:26.5
San Simon. You mentioned earlier that Kap Randy is from San Pablo?
36:31.5
De La Paz. De La Paz po.
36:37.5
Who is from San Pablo? Kap Randy?
36:42.5
And Kap Bando is from?
36:49.5
So they are the incumbent barangay captains in 2018?
36:54.5
Sila po ba yung nakaupo pang Kapitan until now?
36:59.5
And I will go back to your earlier statement. Ang nagbawal sa inyo, binawi niyo po yung first statement niyo about Kap Randy.
37:10.5
You changed it into Kap Bando. Bakit po kayo pinagbawalan ni Kap Bando?
37:17.5
Gusto po niya dumaan muna ako sa kanya.
37:20.5
Gusto niya dumaan kayo sa kanya? For what reason?
37:25.5
Gusto niya po siya lang po ang magbenta ng subject property na sinasakupan niya.
37:33.5
So nagkaroon po ba ng transaction dito sa De La Paz with Kap Bando as the agent?
37:42.5
Ilang bentahan po ba naganap dito?
37:45.5
Hindi ko na po alam yung transaction.
37:47.5
Hindi niyo po alam. Pero ano po yung transaction kung saan kayo pinagbawalan na ni Kap Bando na mag-ahente?
37:56.5
That was 2018 po. Nung pinagbawalan na niya po ako, hindi na po ako nagbenta.
38:05.5
Yes. What is this transaction all about? Sino po ang seller at sino po ang buyer?
38:12.5
Kanina po tinatanong kayo ng ating mga committee members.
38:17.5
Ano pa ang transaction niyo? You are not disclosing about this De La Paz property.
38:23.5
I assume that the property is in De La Paz.
38:25.5
That is San Simon po. De La Paz, San Simon. At saka San Pablo, San Simon.
38:30.5
De La Paz, San Simon. De La Paz, San Simon.
38:34.5
Can you please enlighten us on the circumstances surrounding the transaction in De La Paz, San Simon where you were prevented by Kap Bando from pursuing the transaction?
38:47.5
Ikiwento niyo po sa amin.
38:53.5
Nag-consolidate po sila ng lot sa De La Paz. And then San Isidro
39:07.5
Consolidation po nang mga property owners sa De La Paz po.
39:14.5
At then siya po ang nakakasakop, si Kap Bando sa De La Paz na different barangay.
39:17.5
lugar na yun. You mentioned about San Isidro.
39:20.2
Hindi, iba po pala San Isidro
39:21.8
dito yun sa part na to.
39:23.4
Hindi ako kasi masyadong well known
39:25.5
sa mga barangay sa San Simone.
39:27.4
Yun lang po sa consolidation na
39:29.4
ginawa namin dun ako aware.
39:33.1
Were you part of that consolidation process?
39:35.8
Kayo po ba yung naandu doon pa
39:37.4
nung kinoconsolidate itong lupa sa
39:41.1
Opo, kaya lang ilang hektarya lang po
39:43.3
yung nakausap po. How many hectares?
39:47.9
Seven hectares lang po.
39:51.8
Sino po ang seller
39:53.5
at sino po ang buyer
39:55.3
nitong seven hectares na
39:57.1
kinoconsolidate nyo?
39:59.3
Yung pong Golden Sun 999.
40:02.7
Yung Golden Sun 999 po.
40:13.5
Opo. That's the name of the company.
40:15.7
They are the seller.
40:20.3
Ang Golden Sun po ang buyer.
40:24.0
So sino naman po ang seller?
40:27.0
Yung mga farmers po nung De La Paz.
40:30.2
Farmers of De La Paz.
40:33.9
were you able to conclude
40:35.6
the consolidation of the seven hectares
40:38.5
bago po kayo pinagbawala
40:44.3
Natapos nyo po ang consolidation.
40:45.7
Nung seven hectares.
40:48.3
Opo. Natapos po yung consolidation.
40:51.4
Natuloy po ba itong bentahan ng lupang ito?
40:59.2
Hindi po. Na-left out na po ako.
41:02.5
Opo. Yung mga kapitan dun sa mga
41:04.3
adjoining lots po niya.
41:05.9
You were saying mga kapitan.
41:07.8
Opo. Sino po itong mga kapitan na ito?
41:13.9
You were saying mga kapitan.
41:15.7
Sa adjoining lots.
41:21.5
Barangay De La Paz.
41:24.3
There are other barangays.
41:27.0
Included in the transaction.
41:29.1
Since you are involved in the consolidation,
41:33.2
that you can recall
41:35.3
anong mga barangay ito
41:37.5
at sino itong mga kapitan
41:41.3
nagka-isa na i-prevent kayo.
41:43.5
Anong mga kapitan?
41:45.6
Anong mga kapitan?
41:45.7
Anong mga kapitan?
41:45.7
Anong mga barangay po ito?
41:49.7
Hindi ko na po matandaan yung
41:51.6
iba na. De La Paz
41:53.7
lang po kasi ako nag-focus.
41:56.8
Yung nakalimutan ko na po
41:58.2
yung mga adjoining lots niya.
41:59.5
But you said earlier that
42:01.3
you were involved
42:03.1
until the conclusion of the consolidation
42:09.6
Ano ba ginagawa natin sa consolidation?
42:15.2
We gather all the separate lots
42:17.3
and make them under one
42:19.9
cadastral lot number.
42:22.3
Hindi niyo matandaan kung anong barangay.
42:27.2
Hindi ko na po kasi matandaan yung
42:29.2
ibang barangay doon
42:31.1
katabi ng De La Paz.
42:33.0
Kayo po ba itagasaan, Ms. Daisy?
42:38.6
Apalit, Pampanga po.
42:39.8
Apalit, Pampanga.
42:43.2
And this De La Paz,
42:50.6
Gaano ba kalapit yung Apalit
42:56.1
Magkalapit lang po.
42:59.6
Magkalapit po ba?
43:04.5
And how many times were you able to
43:07.2
visit this property?
43:09.2
Siyempre, ayante kayo.
43:10.8
You started as an agent
43:12.1
and the process always starts
43:15.2
with an ocular inspection.
43:18.9
You are a real estate broker.
43:23.7
Napisitan niyo po lahat ng barangay
43:26.0
kung nasan itong 7 hectares na ito.
43:28.8
De La Paz lang po yung 7 hectares.
43:30.8
Isang pamilya lang po yung
43:32.1
kinonsolidate ko with
43:33.4
different landowners.
43:35.4
You are contradicting your earlier statement
43:38.0
because you said earlier
43:40.3
that the consolidation
43:42.7
involves several adjacent
43:47.3
Kaya nga po sabi niyo, mga kapitan.
43:50.9
Ibig sabihin, marami pong
43:54.1
Opo, yung pong magkakadikit-dikit
44:00.4
Pero panina lang po, binawi niyo ulit
44:02.6
at sinabi niyo, de La Paz lang.
44:05.1
Ano po ang totoo?
44:06.5
Doon lang po kasi ako nagfocus.
44:09.1
Doon lang kayo nagfocus
44:10.2
but you were consolidating.
44:12.7
Binawalan na po ako kaya hindi na po
44:14.5
natuloy yung consolidation.
44:15.2
Lolo, kanina po sinabi niyo
44:18.0
you were able to conclude,
44:19.8
to finish the process
44:21.9
of consolidation.
44:24.4
Opo, hindi ko na po matanda.
44:26.0
Nakalimutan ko na po yung mga barangay
44:27.7
ng katabi ng De La Paz.
44:28.4
Why, Ms. Daisy Quiroz, you always end up
44:31.2
your answers with,
44:32.8
hindi ko na po matandaan.
44:39.2
Kanina po you were being asked
44:42.2
notarization of the deed of sale.
44:45.2
You claimed, di mo na matandaan
44:48.1
kung sino yung mga
44:51.7
You were asked, ilang transaction ba
44:53.7
ang inyong trinansak for ADM?
44:57.6
Wala na rin kayong matandaan.
44:59.1
Now you were saying,
45:01.4
there are lots in different barangays
45:04.0
you consolidated.
45:06.4
That is in Simon.
45:08.0
Taga-apalit lang po kayo.
45:09.8
Magkatikit lang po yun.
45:11.9
At hindi niyo maalala kung anong mga barangay.
45:15.2
De La Paz po and then San Pablo.
45:17.6
Meron po po kasing San Pablo, Libo Utad
45:19.7
and then San Pablo.
45:22.4
Mga San Pablo po ang alam kong
45:24.3
katabi ng De La Paz.
45:26.2
Do you still have the document
45:27.6
of the 7 hectares which you consolidated?
45:32.9
request Ms. Quiroz,
45:37.2
to submit the document
45:39.1
of this 7 hectare land
45:42.0
which she consolidated
45:52.2
what are the involved barangays
45:54.0
and who are the barangay captains
45:56.5
during that time?
45:59.6
I will go back to the brokers
46:01.6
you mentioned earlier.
46:04.2
Sino po ito mga brokers
46:05.6
other than the barangay captains
46:07.8
which you can hardly recall?
46:20.9
natatandaan ko dun yung
46:37.4
What else, Ms. Daisy?
46:40.0
Siya lang po ang kilala
46:41.2
kong broker. Pero yung iba po
46:43.0
mga hindi naman po licensed na agent.
46:45.2
Kung sino-sino lang po
46:47.1
ang gusto mag-agent dun.
46:48.3
Nonetheless, they were part of the transaction.
46:51.9
And I am asking you, Ms. Daisy,
46:55.6
who are these people behind
46:57.2
those transactions of ADM?
47:00.1
Whether they are licensed
47:01.4
or otherwise, please give their names.
47:05.1
Hindi ko na po kilala yung iba.
47:07.4
You have to realize, Ms. Daisy,
47:09.6
that you transacted lands
47:11.3
in favor of a Chinese national
47:13.4
and that is unconstitutional.
47:15.0
That is unconstitutional.
47:15.0
That is unconstitutional.
47:15.1
That is unconstitutional.
47:15.1
That is unconstitutional.
47:15.2
Because that is prohibited
47:17.6
by no less than the
47:19.1
Philippine Constitution.
47:20.9
Without you, without these people
47:23.3
who acted as the middleman,
47:26.2
they shouldn't have been
47:30.8
Hindi ko naman po kasi alam na hindi sila
47:33.4
Pilipino. Alam po kasi
47:36.6
How long have you been a real estate broker?
47:45.1
You were transacting properties
47:47.4
mostly within the province of Pampanga.
47:53.7
And would you agree with me
48:00.4
whether licensed or not,
48:01.8
have the same network?
48:05.2
Magkakakilala po kayo?
48:11.0
Please answer the question, Ms. Daisy.
48:13.8
Project selling po ako dati.
48:15.1
Hindi ako nakafocus sa Roland.
48:18.9
This is a general statement.
48:20.8
I am asking for your opinion.
48:26.7
or agents, whether licensed
48:29.0
or not, if they are
48:31.0
all residents of Pampanga,
48:32.8
they belong to the same network
48:34.6
and chances are, they know each other.
48:39.2
Yung iba po, magkakakilala.
48:41.5
And you could not
48:43.0
recall any of those brokers who
48:45.1
acted for A.D. Young?
48:46.8
Hindi ko po alam kung sino-sino po yung mga
48:49.1
nakapag-close. You were saying that you've
48:51.2
been a broker since 2008?
48:54.2
Wala kang maala-ala
48:55.4
except for PMG Realty?
48:58.1
During that time po kasi
48:59.2
ano-ano ako, in-house
49:01.4
broker po ako sa Camellia, Florence.
49:05.7
kahit in-house ka pa,
49:07.4
kahit freelance ka pa,
49:09.7
all brokers and agents belong
49:11.5
to the same network.
49:14.8
abogado, magkakakilala
49:18.3
Para po yung mga congressman,
49:20.5
magkakakilala sila.
49:22.3
Para po yung mga ROD,
49:24.2
Register of Deeds, magkakakilala sila.
49:27.0
Para din yung mga asesor,
49:28.5
magkakakilala sila.
49:30.0
If you are representing yourself as a real
49:32.6
estate broker since 2008,
49:35.4
answer the question.
49:38.5
nag-ahente in behalf of A.D. Young?
49:42.7
na po alam yung iba.
49:44.3
You are telling a lie again.
49:46.3
Hindi ko po alam yung ibang
49:47.8
naka-close kay A.D.
49:53.1
I don't mind if the transaction was not
49:56.6
close. Just state for the record.
50:02.5
for A.D. Young, whether
50:04.2
licensed or otherwise?
50:09.2
Hindi ko na po alam
50:12.7
With the indulgence of Vice-Chair.
50:14.7
Kanina kasi, you're accusing some.
50:17.6
There were brokers. Sabi mo, hindi lang naman ikaw ang broker.
50:20.8
Eh ngayon, hindi mo na alam.
50:23.3
Hindi ko na po alam kung sinong broker na lumalapit sa kanya.
50:25.6
Hindi po. Sinasabi mo na,
50:27.7
sinabi mo kanina na
50:29.3
may ibang broker pa, hindi lang ikaw.
50:32.0
In short, kung may sinabi kang may ibang broker pa,
50:34.9
may alam ka, may kilala ka.
50:37.8
Hindi ko na po alam yung mga
50:39.1
kinakausap niyang iba.
50:42.7
I just noticed, I was about to leave na eh.
50:45.8
Pero parang medyo
50:47.4
napabalik ako sa sinabi mo.
50:50.1
Kasi parang ang feeling ko, Mr. Chairman,
50:53.3
naging kukumpetensya niya,
50:59.0
ahente or hindi mal-ahente,
51:01.6
sinasabi niya yung pangalan
51:02.8
ng mga kapitan, na ganyan.
51:04.7
Kasi sila na naging
51:07.9
Pero yung mga ahente na mga
51:12.7
nagiging kakumpetensya,
51:14.8
parang nire-reply niya yung
51:16.8
pagsasabi doon sa mga pangalang ito.
51:18.9
That probably, yun ang magiging
51:21.3
connect natin kay Mr. Eddie Yang.
51:23.0
And I think this woman is
51:25.2
continuing lying on this
51:30.3
feel this way, no?
51:34.3
unfortunately, patuloy yung ginagawa mo.
51:40.7
afraid of talking to you.
51:43.0
I'm not yet recognized by the chairman.
51:45.0
So, again and again and again
51:46.9
and again, sana huwag ka naman magsinungaling
51:49.0
because, of course,
51:50.7
napapagod din kami dito. Actually, gusto na namin
51:53.1
muwi. And even other
51:55.0
speakers na supposedly
51:57.5
natatanong na natin, hindi na namin
52:00.3
yung patuloy mong pagsisinungaling,
52:02.9
yun ang nakakadirail doon sa
52:04.5
peleting out the truth of the matter.
52:07.7
Your Honor, na-left out
52:09.2
nga po ako, kaya hindi ko
52:10.6
alam yung ibang nag-ahenti na sa kanya.
52:12.9
During that time, na-left out ako.
52:15.2
Na-left out ka. And of course,
52:18.1
nakakaging kompetensya mo,
52:20.7
yun ang binabanggit mo. But others,
52:22.8
hindi mo mabanggit-banggit. Hindi ko na po
52:24.7
kasi kilala dahil yung transaction ko
52:26.7
na lang po ang pinakialaman ko.
52:28.7
Anyway, Mr. Chairman,
52:34.6
Kayo na po bahala, Mr. Chair.
52:43.9
Your Honor, bakit po ako
52:45.8
na-pinpoint? Yun lang naman po
52:48.3
ang totoo ang sinasabi ko sa inyo.
52:50.8
Hindi, kasi nagsimula dito
52:52.1
sa mga properties ni Edith Ayang.
52:56.3
Nandun na nga, last hearing pa.
52:59.9
Puno na kami sa iyo.
53:01.7
Kasi kahit yung notary public nga,
53:06.2
Sandali! You're not yet
53:10.6
Paki-turn off mo yung ano.
53:16.2
Last hearing ka pa.
53:18.2
And until now, you're lying. Kanina,
53:20.1
you're accusing some brokers.
53:23.1
Naka-kompetensya mo.
53:24.7
And now, you cannot name names.
53:27.5
Oh, you're lying.
53:34.0
Sabi mo yung ibang brokers,
53:35.6
nang tinanong ka ni Vice Chair,
53:38.3
nakakalimutan mo na.
53:39.8
Hindi mo na matandaan.
53:40.6
Eh, yung laging excuse ng mga liars.
53:51.0
can I interject po?
53:53.3
What's your interjection?
53:54.5
What is your manifestation?
53:57.0
Yung ibang brokers po,
53:58.1
ang pagkakaalam ko, may mga brokers pong iba,
54:00.7
pero hindi ko naman po sila kakilala.
54:02.1
Eh, that's your...
54:03.1
Kaya yung po nababanggit po,
54:05.3
yun lang po mga alam ko.
54:06.6
Wag ka mag-akusa, sabi mo,
54:08.6
kasi you're left out.
54:10.2
Sabi mo, may mga brokers na iba.
54:11.7
Then, when you were asked,
54:13.6
eh, hindi mo masabi.
54:15.4
Kasi yung information namin, iba.
54:18.9
Yung relation mo with Eddie Tayang is iba.
54:23.4
And kanina, nung tinanong kita,
54:25.7
you're still lying.
54:27.6
Matandaan mo yung 2018,
54:28.9
pero yung iba, hindi mo na matandaan.
54:35.6
Ano, ano, your Honor?
54:37.9
Tapos yung pong sanotaryo,
54:39.4
talaga, kung in good faith po,
54:41.6
nagpanotaryo ako doon,
54:42.9
hindi ko naman po alam na hindi nila ipapasok sa COC.
54:45.3
Ay, tagal mo ng broker, eh.
54:47.0
Tapos ganun yung ginagawa niyo.
54:49.2
Hindi po, hindi po.
54:50.5
No, that's illegal.
54:52.0
Because supposedly,
54:53.6
you were there in front of the lawyer.
54:57.7
nagtiwala po ako.
54:59.5
Ay, yung tiwala is different to the law.
55:05.7
In the sense of the law,
55:06.7
excuse is no one.
55:07.5
At naging practice niyo na yan.
55:09.4
Hindi ko po ginagawa yun.
55:11.4
At it was the first time?
55:15.4
Ito pong J5MB Documentation Services,
55:19.4
nag-park po ako sa likod nito.
55:21.4
And then, nadaanan po siya.
55:23.4
And they stated that statement in the previous hearing,
55:25.4
nagtatagal lang po tayo dito.
55:27.4
Kaya po, kasi yung sinungaling ay hindi matatakpa ng kasinungalingan.
55:32.4
You are given all the time,
55:34.4
and you are given all the chances,
55:36.4
by Vice Chair to name names,
55:38.4
because you are accusing some brokers,
55:41.4
and you cannot name names.
55:43.4
Yun lang po ang kilala ko,
55:44.4
pero yung ibang brokers ko hindi ko po kilala,
55:46.4
yun lang po ang natatanda ko.
55:47.4
Problem mga kaya,
55:48.4
because you are accusing them,
55:49.4
but you cannot name names.
55:50.4
Because in our information,
55:52.4
halos lahat ng transaction doon,
55:56.4
Whether may ibang broker,
55:58.4
ikaw pa rin ang papagitna doon.
56:00.4
Hindi po, totoo yan.
56:03.4
Ay, ibig sabihin,
56:04.4
nagsisinunay ako?
56:07.4
yung accusation po,
56:08.4
hindi naman po totoo po.
56:10.4
Hindi, tinawagan kita kanina eh.
56:11.4
Ah, natandaan mo,
56:12.4
2018 Christmas party.
56:13.4
Pero pinaka-latest day,
56:15.4
That was 2018 po,
56:16.4
yun lang po ang pinakinan ko.
56:18.4
Ay sinasabi ko nga,
56:20.4
and somebody will testify against you,
56:22.4
with your statement,
56:24.4
yung disclaimer mo na wala ka doon,
56:27.4
Hindi ko po alam,
56:28.4
pwede ko po makita.
56:29.4
Actually, you are given all the time.
56:33.4
kinuha mo na lahat ng time namin dito,
56:36.4
of all your lies.
56:38.4
Hindi po ako nagsisinungan eh.
56:42.4
turn off the microphone.
56:49.4
ganito yung sitwasyon eh.
56:57.4
nakikita ng mga membro na hindi mo
57:02.4
sinasagot ng tama.
57:04.4
Yung kanilang mga katulad,
57:16.4
pinipilit mo yung,
57:21.4
Pero sino ang paniniwalaan namin?
57:23.4
Yung abogado na ang pangalan nandun sa notarization,
57:27.4
na nagsasabi wala akong opisina doon,
57:31.4
tapos sinabi niya hindi ko pirma yan,
57:33.4
hindi ko nino-notarize.
57:34.4
Sino ang paniniwalaan namin?
57:36.4
o yung abogada na yun,
57:37.4
o yung notary public na yun?
57:41.4
kinainterject po.
57:42.4
Meron na rin po akong na-experience na ganung consequences?
57:47.4
Ah, hindi mo ako sinasagot eh.
57:49.4
Hindi ko naman tinatanong yung experience mo eh.
57:51.4
Ang tinatanong ko,
57:54.4
kung ilagay mo yung sarili mo sa pesto namin ngayon,
57:57.4
sino ang paniniwalaan mo?
58:00.4
Yung nagsasabi na wala akong opisina dyan?
58:04.4
Hindi ako ang nag-notarize nyan?
58:07.4
O ikaw ang nagsasabi na doon ka nagpa-notarize?
58:12.4
Opo, pinikturan po po.
58:14.4
O sino ang paniniwalaan mo?
58:18.4
Hindi ko po alam kung ano pong ginawa ng sekretary na panotary mo.
58:24.4
Hindi mo naman sinasagot yung katanungan ko na naman eh.
58:26.4
Sino nga ang paniniwalaan mo?
58:30.4
gusto ko ilagay mo yung sarili mo
58:32.4
dito sa pwesto namin.
58:33.4
Dito sa pwesto namin ngayon.
58:35.4
Kasi kami ang nakikinig at nagtatanong eh
58:40.4
Eh sino ang paniniwalaan namin?
58:43.4
yung notary public na nagsasabi
58:47.4
wala siyang opisina roon
58:51.4
ang nag-notarize nung dokumento na sinasabi natin.
58:54.4
Kesa doon sa sinasabi mo.
58:56.4
Sinong paniniwalaan namin?
58:58.4
Yung pong pumirma.
59:00.4
Yung pong nag-notaryo.
59:02.4
So, ibig sabihin,
59:05.4
paniniwalaan namin yung sinasabi nung notaryo publiko.
59:11.4
Kesa doon sa sinasabi mo.
59:13.4
Opo, pero po in good faith.
59:14.4
Oo. Ang ibig lang sabihin nun,
59:16.4
hindi tama yung sagot mo.
59:26.4
Hindi ko po alam kung ano pong ginawa nung nag-notaryo.
59:30.4
Eh, ikaw ang nagpa-notaryo, eh di dapat nandun ka kasi eh.
59:35.4
Marami din pong ibang nagpa-notaryo to.
59:39.4
Nung nanun pa ka, nandun ka.
59:43.4
Kasi po pumasok po yung, ano eh, pumasok yung sekretary.
59:47.4
Ang pagkakaalam ko...
59:48.4
Eh, narinig ko na yan nung last hearing.
59:51.4
Yeah. Narinig ko na yan.
59:54.4
Pero yun po ang totoo.
60:00.4
Mr. Che, baka pwede mo kasingit.
60:06.4
Ah, ikaw, kilala mo si Rudingo?
60:11.4
Hindi ko pa siya na...
60:13.4
Sabi, si Eddie ang po ang nakausap ko regarding dun sa,
60:17.4
sabi niya sa akin, ang buyer si Rudingo.
60:19.4
Pero hindi ko pa po siya na-meet.
60:21.4
Hindi mo siya na-meet?
60:25.4
Yung sekretary lang niya po ang...
60:27.4
Ano, nag-sekretary lang niya? Hindi mo siya na-meet?
60:30.4
Hindi ko po siya na-meet. Binigay ko lang po yung dokumento.
60:35.4
Hindi ko pa nag-transfer nung ano, nung transfer nung ownership?
60:42.4
Sino kasama mo nung pumunta sa munisipyo? Nung magpa-transfer nung ownership?
60:48.4
Nagpa-deklara po.
60:50.4
Wala po akong kasama. Ako lang.
60:54.4
And you never meet?
60:56.4
Si yung may-ari mismo na bumili?
61:00.4
Hindi po. Si ano lang po, yung sekretary lang po niya.
61:03.4
Nakakuha na komisyon doon sa pagbili ni Rudingo sa kay Adiang?
61:08.4
Hindi po ako nung nakabenta. Ano lang po ako. Doon sa pag-transfer po ng title.
61:14.4
Si nag-uto sa iyo para i-transfer yun?
61:17.4
So nagkausap kayo ni Adiang?
61:18.4
Oo. That was October po.
61:21.4
Sige po, Mr. Chair.
61:26.4
One minute suspension. Pwede po?
61:40.4
Hearing suspended. Hearing suspended.
61:46.4
Pakinggan muna natin bago tayo mag-suspend.
63:19.4
Ah. The hearing is .
63:22.4
Oh. Pasalamat po. Medyo hindi mainit.
63:24.4
person present today. But in the next
63:26.5
hearing, if you continue to lie,
63:28.8
you have no choice but to
63:29.9
cite you in contempt.
63:32.5
Pag nagsisinulayin ka pa rin.
63:34.9
Hindi po ako nang...
63:36.4
Can I interject po? Hindi po ako nang
63:38.1
cite you in contempt. Eh, gusto mo ngayon
63:40.2
ipakontempt na kita? I will ask the members.
63:45.2
the chance because of the request
63:51.4
O, ang sinasabi ko lang
63:52.8
in the next hearing, if you
63:54.9
continue to lie, pasensyahan
63:57.1
na po tayo. Mr. Chair.
63:58.5
We will cite you in contempt.
64:00.1
Ah, Your Honor, may naisip.
64:01.5
Sandali, hindi ka pa narecognize.
64:06.3
There isn't why...
64:07.5
Sandali, may share.
64:09.5
Ah, Chairman Dan.
64:11.3
Do you understand?
64:14.7
O, next hearing, ha?
64:17.1
Kasi kahit tanungin mo dito yung mga resource person,
64:22.8
alam namin lahat dito, nagsinungaling ka.
64:27.1
Ano po yung basehan nyo po,
64:29.3
Your Honor, yung pong age?
64:30.4
I am not questioning.
64:31.5
Yung pong special power of attorney po.
64:34.6
Anong special power of attorney?
64:36.1
Yung pong pinresent ko sa, ano,
64:38.2
sa municipality of,
64:42.3
asensyal po na San Simoan.
64:43.3
Hindi lang yun, ang sinasabi ko,
64:45.7
since the first hearing that you attended
64:47.9
this committee hearing,
64:49.5
puro kasi nang nalingan yung pinagsasabi mo.
64:52.8
So, we will, we are giving you the chance
64:56.2
on the next hearing.
64:57.8
Ayun lang, o, Chairman Dan.
64:59.8
The reason why I asked for a one-minute suspension,
65:02.5
parang, ah, at least, eh,
65:04.6
nakatuwa sana na,
65:08.9
huwag na natin siyang, ah,
65:10.7
aside for contempt, lalo na si Chairman Acco,
65:14.6
saka si Vice Chairman.
65:16.5
Unfortunately, parang, ah,
65:19.8
ang bigat ng damdamin ko kapag sumasagot ka ng gano'n sa Chairman,
65:24.0
parang, nawawalan ka ng respeto dun sa Chairman natin.
65:29.6
before you speak,
65:31.6
last time na ito, ha, I warn you,
65:33.9
please don't speak
65:34.9
if you are not recognized by the Chair.
65:37.1
Yes, let us finish muna.
65:39.1
Kasi, paliwanag muna natin,
65:42.0
ah, Madam Quiroz,
65:44.1
di mo ba napansin, bago kami magsalita,
65:47.0
inaantay namin na
65:48.3
bibigyan kami ng karapatan
65:50.7
ng aming Chairman?
65:52.8
nire-respeto namin siya, eh.
65:54.6
Kasi siya ang Chairman.
65:57.3
dapat din gano'n.
65:58.2
Bago ka magsalita,
65:59.2
humingi ka muna ng permiso rito.
66:01.2
Kung kami nga, humingi ng permiso,
66:03.3
ikaw dapat humingi ng permiso.
66:08.3
Pare-pares kami ng Chairman.
66:10.9
siya ang Chairman, eh.
66:11.7
Nire-respeto namin.
66:14.2
Maliwanag siguro yun.
66:20.0
Bakit site ka namin in contempt?
66:22.8
Huwag yung parang papasok agad na atribida ka na gusto mo lang madinig ka kagad.
66:38.4
No, it's not that way.
66:40.5
There's a procedure and protocols in this August Chamber.
66:45.5
And we wanted to maintain that.
66:47.7
We hope that is clear with you.
66:52.4
Now you can speak.
66:58.0
Ah, nalulungkot po ako.
66:59.2
Bakit ako po yung ano?
67:00.5
Hindi naman po ako nagsisinulaling sa inyo.
67:03.2
Yung katotohanan lang po yung sinasabi ko.
67:08.4
The reason why we are, um,
67:11.0
talking to each other, no?
67:12.3
During the, uh, one-minute suspension.
67:14.9
Because we have seen, ano,
67:16.3
yung series of lying mo, eh.
67:18.5
Hindi naman kami talaga maniniwala na kahit isa,
67:23.3
Wala kang kilala dun sa mga, mga agents, no?
67:26.3
That, um, the 300, uh, titles and the, the thousand of hectares
67:33.3
that being owned by Eddie Yang,
67:35.3
kahit isa dun wala kang kilala.
67:39.3
Kilala mo si Eddie Yang, eh.
67:41.3
Ikaw pa nga inutusan, eh.
67:42.3
Para i-transfer yung title, eh.
67:44.3
Papunta kay Rudy Ngo, eh.
67:47.3
Ang dami mo ng transactions sa kanila, eh.
67:49.3
And you told us, eh.
67:50.3
And, you told us, di ba?
67:52.3
Ang daming mga nakapalibot sa kanya ng mga, mga, ah, ah, ahente.
67:58.3
At marami ka dun mga nakalaban ng mga ahente.
68:01.3
Don't tell us wala kang kilala.
68:07.3
Nagsisinungaling kayo, eh.
68:09.3
And, hindi pa ako tapos.
68:10.3
Huwag ka pumormat yan.
68:17.3
yung, yung relasyon mo sa CT, eh.
68:20.3
Sa CT, kanina, sinabi ni Assessor.
68:23.3
Nakikipag-transact ka sa kanila.
68:28.3
At sa patuloy mong pakikipag-usap dun sa sekretary ni Eddie Yang,
68:33.3
hindi kami naniniwala na wala kang kakilala sa mga nakapalibot sa kanila.
68:39.3
Kung meron man, no,
68:42.3
na transaksyon, yung sekretary mismo ni Eddie Yang, no,
68:46.3
sa iba't ibang mga ahente,
68:50.3
na wala ka na meet dun.
68:52.3
And as a matter of fact, yung sinasabi ni Chairman kanina,
68:55.3
mismo sa Christmas party,
68:57.3
and at the same time dun sa isang okasyon that, ah,
69:00.3
naupo yung mayor,
69:06.3
yung mga ahente dun.
69:08.3
Kaya, ang hirap paniwalaan dun, ano, eh.
69:14.3
we have decided na
69:17.3
Huwag na muna, ngayon.
69:19.3
Sana, sa susunod, naimbitahan ka namin,
69:24.3
yung mga sinasabi namin
69:26.3
about the, ah, agents.
69:28.3
Because this will help us, eh.
69:30.3
Para ma-identify yung nakapalibot kay Eddie Yang.
69:37.3
Yun lang po, Mr. Chair.
69:39.3
Thank you, Chairman.
69:40.3
Oh, what will you say?
69:43.3
Do you want to speak?
69:44.3
Oh, please proceed.
69:47.3
Nakubusta yung oras namin.
69:49.3
Ah, next time na lang po.
69:51.3
Sa susunod na hearing na lang po.
69:53.3
Isipin ko muna po yung mga ibang ahenting.
69:57.3
That was 2018 pa po.
69:59.3
Kasi, yung iba talaga, hindi ko.
70:01.3
Ay, naku, 2008 pa yung ano mo.
70:03.3
2018 po ako naka...
70:04.3
2008 yung ano mo.
70:05.3
Huwag na tayo mag-discuss yan.
70:07.3
Let us see what will happen.
