Sen. Risa Hontiveros 'relieved' as Marcos Jr. orders ban on POGOs
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Senate Deputy Minority Leader Risa Ontiveros is with our correspondent Victoria Tula at the House of Representatives.
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Let's go there live, Victoria.
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That's correct, Ron. We are now joined by Deputy Minority Leader Senator Risa Ontiveros
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who is also one of the... who has been very vocal about her desire for the Pogos to be banned.
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Ma'am, good evening. Thank you very much for joining us.
00:24.3
Thanks for inviting me, Victoria.
00:26.3
Ma'am, congratulations. You've been hoping for this announcement.
00:29.4
For a couple of weeks or probably years now, what was your reaction when the President announced that position on Pogos?
00:36.4
I was very relieved and of course very glad.
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Kasi there was a certain point, akala ko patapos na si Presidente sa zona nila.
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And incredulous ako na, ano? Hindi niya babanggitin ng Pogo?
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Tapos biglang sa huli pala, inanunsyo niya yung banning ng Pogos effective today,
00:58.0
winding down ng Pogo.
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Operations hanggang katapusan ng taon at paghahanap ng alternatibong hanap buhay,
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disenteng trabaho sa some tens of thousands sa mga kababayan natin na nagtatrabaho pa sa Pogo.
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So, malaking tagumpay ngayong araw sa mga babae at bata na nagsumbong laban sa Pogo,
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tagumpay sa mga whistleblowers na nagsumbong tungkol sa Pogo,
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tagumpay sa over the months, dumaraming mga government agencies,
01:29.4
na nakipagtulungan sa amin tulad ng PAOK, yung NBI, at iba pa.
01:35.6
And I think, tagumpay sa lahat nating mga Pilipino na mga kababayan, mga netizens na talagang sumubaybay dito
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at talagang idinagdag ang kanilang mga boses na ayaw na natin sa Pogo.
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Huwag natin kalimutan yung mga government officials na nagsalita na rin itong nakaraang mga linggo,
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ang finance secretary, ang NEDA director general, pati yung mga business organization,
01:59.4
na nagsalita laban sa Pogo. So, malaking tagumpay po para sa ating lahat ngayong araw.
02:05.8
And ma'am, you said napatayo kayo kanina, which was the first time?
02:09.0
First time, I stood up to clap for the president.
02:13.7
Well, yung una, earlier, tungkol sa West Philippine Sea, pero dati na yun,
02:17.9
isa sa ilan na mga policy areas na magkasundo kami.
02:22.6
Pero this one was the first time for me to stand up and applaud at a sauna dito.
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Sa kanilang disisyon laban sa Pogo.
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Ma'am, do you think the government can solve the problem, can eliminate Pogos by the end of the year?
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I think that's a good timetable. Ideally nga, ngayon na, di ba?
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Pero at least sinabi nila may full stop by December 31, 2024.
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And kung kaya ba itong gawin ng gobyerno, gobyerno din kasi ang nagbigay daan sa Pogo.
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Panahon ni Duterte.
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Practically, nag-open-door policy siya sa Pogo.
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Maraming matatamis na pangako na halos lahat, o kundi man lahat, napako.
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And we are contending with the very ill effects, evil effects ng Pogo hanggang sa ngayon.
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So, kung kinaya ng gobyerno noon, bigyang daan itong perwisyo ng Pogo,
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siguradong with the same powers na dati inabuso para bigyang daan ng Pogo,
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sigurado, kakayanin dapat ng gobyerno.
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Sa lahat ng kapangyarihan niya, talagang mapatigil at mapatapon na sa labas ng bansa natin ang Pogo.
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But what if the scenario that PAG Corps Chair Alejandro Tenco said happens,
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that Pogos will go underground, continue their illegal operations and victimize many people,
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how will the government respond to that? Won't that be a negative effect of this ban?
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Well, na-appreciate ko naman yung perspective ni PAG Corps Chair Tenco,
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pero kung may policy decision na,
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ang gobyerno, tulad ng mga gobyerno ng sinuunang panahon,
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tulad, pati sa ibang mga bansa,
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halimbawa nung binanang slavery,
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nung binanang iba't ibang pangaabuso pa sa karapatan ng tao,
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then, hindi natin dapat maging excuse na kapag binan natin yan,
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mag-a-underground lang yan at patuloy ng mga abuso sa tao,
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then it will become a matter or problem of enforcement.
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Executive action.
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Police powers of the state.
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So, diyan lalong magkikikin ang law enforcement capacities ng ating mga institusyon.
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So, on this good day, let no one make excuses, no?
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Pero, pagtulungan ng lahat na maipatupad itong ban sa Pogo,
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mabunot na itong masamang weed na ito sa ating economic garden or ecosystem,
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at itapon na yan sa sunog, itapon sa labas ng bansa.
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And, what grade will you give the President, Ma'am Edesona,
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since you were satisfied with this statement on the Pogo?
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This is a day na half full ang glass.
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I appreciated still yung position nila sa West Philippine Sea.
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I really appreciated yung announcement nila sa ban sa Pogo.
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Pero, meron pa rin marami-rami ibang mga area na mas sana may narinig pa ako sa kanila.
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Gaya ng ekonomiya.
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Gaya ng ekonomiya, agrikultura at energy.
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Gaya ng edukasyon.
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Yung isang malaking bagay, kasi sinabi ni Presidente,
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tungkol sa problematic drug use, na extermination was never part of the solution.
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Pagkatapos nun, natapos na eh.
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Hindi na nahimik siya sa issue ng International Criminal Court.
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Kasi kung extermination was never part of the solution,
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dapat mapanagutin si Duterte sa extermination na ginawa niya sa tens of thousands na mga kababayan natin
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at pangungulila ng tens of thousands na mga pamilya.
06:09.1
Sana nagsalita rin si Presidente sa SONA ngayon tungkol sa iba pang mga concerns ng kababaihan at gender.
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Pati yung SOGI-esque equality bill, yung dissolution of divorce bill.
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And last but not least, sana nakapagsalita pa sila tungkol sa ilan pang mga usapin ng defense, foreign relations,
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national security, bagamat yun ang sang-ayon ako sa kanila sa West Philippine Sea.
06:33.9
So, dahil pang-araw ito na the class is definitely half full, pero may marami-rami pang importante mga era,
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I would say 6 over 10.
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Thank you very much, ma'am, for your time.
06:45.5
Thank you, pa. Good evening, ma'am.
