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right now. Thanks for joining
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Topping the midday news, the work continues
07:07.4
for the Philippine government
07:08.9
in the aftermath of Typhoon Carina.
07:11.7
President Ferdinand Marcos Jr.
07:13.3
ordering relevant agencies
07:14.8
to keep him updated as
07:17.1
he visits communities worst hit by
07:19.1
the storm and the southwest monsoon.
07:21.5
ABS-CBN's Pia Gordano,
07:23.0
Gutierrez, now joins us with more
07:25.0
on this. Pia, over to you.
07:27.4
Yes, Carmina. President Ferdinand
07:29.2
Marcos Jr. on Thursday
07:31.0
inspected the situation
07:33.1
of several flood-affected
07:35.1
areas in Valenzuela and
07:36.9
Navotas following the onslaught
07:38.9
of Typhoon Carina and the southwest
07:40.7
monsoon. The president, along
07:43.0
with other government officials, including
07:45.1
DPWH Secretary Manny
07:46.8
Bonoan, DSWD Secretary
07:48.9
Sherwin Cachalian, and
07:50.7
DALG Secretary Benjuer
07:53.0
supported a military
07:54.7
truck this morning to visit the
07:56.7
evacuees in Malanday National
07:58.9
High School in Barangay Malanday
08:01.1
in Valenzuela and in
08:02.8
Barangay Tanza in Navotas.
08:05.3
The floodwaters, however, seemingly
08:07.1
prevented the president and
08:08.7
the officials from going down the truck
08:10.8
and into the evacuation
08:12.6
centers. The PCO, meanwhile,
08:14.8
says the president is also set to inspect
08:17.0
the damaged navigational gate
08:19.0
in Barangay Tanza, which was
08:20.8
earlier damaged by a barge
08:23.0
causing floods to several barangays
08:24.7
in Malabon and Navotas.
08:26.7
Prior to this, Marcus Jr. led
08:28.9
a situational briefing with
08:30.8
government officials in the compound of the
08:32.7
Presidential Security Command
08:34.2
in Malacanang, where he was briefed
08:37.0
by several cabinet officials
08:38.5
on the status of Metro Manila
08:40.6
and other areas affected by
08:42.6
the severe weather. The chief executive
08:44.8
ordered agencies to immediately
08:46.7
identify the areas hardest hit by
08:48.9
Carina to determine
08:50.4
where and what kind of assistance shall
08:52.7
be extended to the affected
08:54.5
residents. Let's listen to
08:56.6
President Marcos.
09:00.7
for ourselves that the typhoon
09:04.7
system is going away.
09:06.4
So, where are we now?
09:08.6
What is the situation
09:10.9
on the ground now? Where is there
09:14.4
Where are there still
09:16.4
isolated communities? That is
09:18.5
what we need to know. Because
09:22.6
employees to move,
09:22.7
we need to know where to go.
09:25.0
That's really what I need to hear from you.
09:26.9
Where do we go now? Which are
09:28.7
the places that need the most help
09:30.7
immediately? We need to get
09:32.7
as quickly as possible
09:34.0
a good assessment
09:36.9
of what the situation is
09:38.7
and what it is that we need to do.
09:43.0
During the briefing, the
09:44.7
Office of the Civil Defense reported that
09:46.6
almost 37,000 families
09:50.5
individuals in Regions 1,
09:56.5
4A and 4B were affected by the
09:58.6
typhoon and the southwest monsoon.
10:00.6
But the number is still expected
10:02.5
to go up as more information is made
10:04.7
available. Meanwhile, the OCD
10:06.8
says 13 individuals were
10:08.6
reported killed, but officials
10:10.4
are still validating reports of two more deaths
10:12.6
in Metro Manila. And
10:14.3
in their latest bulletin, however,
10:18.4
confirmed that there are already
10:20.4
14 deaths due to the
10:22.5
severe weather. Meanwhile, according
10:24.3
to the OCD, at least two people were
10:26.4
injured and two more have been reported
10:28.6
missing. The President also
10:30.5
ordered an assessment
10:32.0
on the safety of the
10:34.3
F. Manalo Bridge in Pasig City
10:36.3
during the briefing. This
10:38.4
after a portion of the bridge was
10:40.2
damaged when several barges
10:42.3
and boats repeatedly hit the structure
10:44.5
last Wednesday due to the strong current.
10:46.5
The President also ordered the
10:48.5
Department of Health to immediately
10:50.5
deploy doctors and provide medical
10:52.4
assistance in the evacuation
10:54.4
centers to ensure the
10:56.3
condition of the evacuees affected
10:58.6
by the typhoon. He stressed
11:00.5
that evacuation centers should be
11:02.5
equipped with a mobile clinic to
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check on the condition of the children,
11:06.5
particularly the elderly evacuees.
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Thanks a lot. Pia Gutierrez there joining us on
11:12.4
the line and back here in the newsroom.
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The extent of the damage left by typhoon
11:16.6
Carina in Metro Manila
11:18.0
unfolding as we speak. Metro
11:20.4
Manila Council President and San Juan Mayor
11:22.4
Francis Zamora says local
11:24.3
officials are assessing the situation
11:26.2
in their areas as the weather begins to
11:28.3
improve. But for now, Zamora says
11:30.3
he cannot say for sure just how
11:32.4
bad the damage is. He
11:34.3
also calls on local government units
11:36.5
to utilize their quick response
11:42.1
very significant because
11:46.1
National Disaster Reduction
11:50.0
there are guidelines on the
11:52.2
utilization of the disaster fund
11:54.0
and the QRF really is intended
11:59.4
devastation such as what we are
12:02.1
now experiencing. So definitely
12:04.0
this will be a big help for all of us.
12:06.2
We have not really seen the extent
12:08.0
of the damage yet because
12:09.3
we just came from an evening of
12:13.9
within the day we should find out
12:15.6
how we can utilize
12:17.6
the quick response fund.
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government of Caloocan City
12:25.9
verifying four deaths due to
12:29.4
Ayong Malapitan says
12:31.4
parts of the city remain flooded
12:33.9
with about 15,000
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staying in evacuation centers.
12:38.6
Malapitan avows to provide
12:40.0
assistance to the affected residents.
12:43.9
It's different than what happened yesterday.
12:45.8
From our point of view, it's more serious
12:47.6
than what happened in Iundoy.
12:48.7
We can't enter Iundoy
12:50.9
Barangay 33, 34, 35
12:54.6
afford the vehicles anymore.
12:56.2
Our banks have run out.
12:58.5
We've already deployed them all.
13:00.6
Yesterday, we bought
13:03.9
We will not give up.
13:05.4
We will continue to find ways
13:11.8
life. My directive
13:15.6
all health centers and medicines
13:18.2
for our countrymen.
13:23.9
appealing for additional supply
13:25.6
of the antibiotic
13:27.2
doxycycline for its
13:29.6
flood-stricken residents.
13:31.4
Typhoon Karina forced about 31,000
13:33.4
residents in the city to flee their homes,
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marking the highest number of evacuees
13:37.4
ever recorded. Mayor Marcy
13:39.3
Tiroro says the challenge now is
13:41.1
rehabilitation, both economically
13:43.3
and psychologically.
13:47.2
really in need of
13:48.6
doxycycline. We've been
13:52.0
doxycycline as of last night
13:55.0
until this early morning
13:56.9
in order to avoid
13:58.4
cases of leptospirosis.
14:01.2
Ang supply namin ngayon is good
14:03.0
for 20,000 individuals.
14:05.5
Rehabilitation is the
14:09.3
we need to address.
14:10.9
Rehabilitation not only on a physical
14:13.2
sense, but more importantly, economically.
14:15.9
Secondly, yung moral
14:17.1
and psychological impact nito
14:20.8
Sa mga bata, sa mga magulang
14:22.6
na nagsikap, nakamakabangon
14:30.7
Government orders a price freeze
14:32.6
in Metro Manila after the region was placed
14:34.8
under a state of calamity due to
14:36.6
Typhoon Karina. The Trade Department
14:38.6
says the price control
14:40.2
covers essential goods including rice,
14:44.2
vegetables, among others.
14:47.6
Trade Secretary Alfredo
14:49.0
Pascual also warned businesses
14:50.8
against exploiting the situation.
14:57.3
Karina has left the Philippine area
14:58.9
of responsibility this morning, but Weather Bureau
15:01.0
Pag-Asa warns of more rains this week.
15:03.4
Meanwhile, more data coming out
15:05.0
on just how much rain was dumped
15:07.0
here in Quezon City.
15:09.1
Let's get more details now from ABS-CBN
15:11.3
resident meteorologist Ariel Rojas.
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Ariel, over to you.
15:15.7
Thank you, Karina.
15:16.9
Basing on Pag-Asa's rainfall data,
15:19.0
Karina and Hans Tabagat had
15:20.8
more rains than Ondoy in 2009.
15:25.3
millimeters of rain was recorded
15:26.8
in Science Garden, Quezon City,
15:28.5
between 2 a.m. Wednesday and 2 a.m.
15:31.2
Thursday, slightly higher than
15:34.9
millimeter rain measured in 24
15:36.9
hours. The heavy monsoon rains
15:38.8
also led to water level in
15:40.8
Ambuklaw and Angat Tams, increasing by
15:42.7
more than 4 meters compared to the
15:44.9
previous day. Karina exited the Philippine
15:46.9
area of responsibility Thursday
15:48.6
early morning, and at 10 it was to KTED,
15:50.8
over the Taiwan Strait, some
15:52.6
515 kilometers north-northwest
15:55.2
of Itbayat, Batanes. It has
15:56.9
slightly weakened but still packs winds
15:58.9
of 140 kilometers per hour
16:00.8
with gusts up to 215 kilometers
16:03.1
per hour. Wind signal number 1
16:05.0
remains in effect over the province
16:06.9
of Batanes. Moderate to heavy
16:08.9
monsoon rains are still expected to
16:11.0
batter the western sections of northern
16:13.0
and central Luzon until Saturday.
16:15.3
In Pag-Asa's 11 a.m. heavy rainfall
16:17.0
warning this Thursday, red
16:19.1
warning for torrential rains is
16:20.8
raised in Ilocos Norte, Ilocos Sur,
16:23.2
Abra, Benguet, La Union, and Pangasinan.
16:25.6
Orange warning for intense rains
16:27.1
is in effect in Zambales and Tarlac,
16:29.6
while yellow warning remains
16:31.0
in Batanes, Babuyan Islands,
16:32.9
Northern Apayau, Tarlac, and
16:34.7
Pampanga. The threat of serious and
16:36.8
widespread flooding and landslide continue
16:38.7
in these areas. Meanwhile, Metro Manila
16:40.9
will have much better weather condition today.
16:43.1
There will still be occasional rains, but
16:44.9
the breaks will be longer.
16:47.1
Sunnier conditions are expected
16:48.7
tomorrow and this weekend.
16:50.8
That's the latest on the weather.
16:52.5
This is Arielle Rojas, back to you, Carmina.
16:54.4
Thanks a lot, Arielle Rojas there, joining us live.
16:57.5
Well, parts of northern Luzon
16:58.7
also battered by the bad weather.
17:00.7
Some roads in Benguet and the Mountain Province
17:02.9
remain impassable due to
17:04.9
landslides. Harris Julio is
17:06.9
on the line now with an update. Harris,
17:12.6
The Chico River in Bontoc Mountain
17:14.7
Province is being closely monitored
17:16.8
as water levels rise due to
17:18.8
continuous rains from the southwest
17:20.7
monsoon. According to the
17:22.6
Provincial Disaster Risk Reduction and Management
17:24.8
Office, water levels are nearing
17:26.8
the yellow warning threshold.
17:29.1
Residents are now strictly
17:32.2
approaching the river. Meanwhile,
17:34.8
a portion of the mountain
17:36.1
collapsed and nearly buried a house
17:38.9
in Sitio Ambudeng, Barangay
17:40.7
Kapinitan, Sabangan.
17:42.8
PBRMO reports that no injuries
17:44.8
have been reported among the occupants.
17:47.2
Authorities and residents have joined
17:48.9
forces in the clearing operations.
17:50.7
Roads blocked by landslides
17:53.5
in Barlig, the towns
17:55.4
of Barlig, Tadjan, and Bontoc
17:57.1
have been reopened following clearing
17:59.0
operations. Authorities are advised
18:01.3
to exercise stream caution while
18:03.3
passing through these areas.
18:05.3
In Benguet, a landslide in Sitio
18:07.1
Akbot, Barangay Pito has rendered
18:09.4
the Benguet-Mueva-Biskaya Road
18:11.2
impassable. Dakara-Poblasyon
18:13.3
Road and Kawal-Bisal Road are also
18:15.3
obstructed by landslides and fallen
18:17.3
trees. Clearing operations
18:19.1
are currently underway.
18:20.7
Police along with
18:22.4
Bureau of Fire Protection personnel
18:24.3
have visited Sitio Kawahan
18:26.6
Hurel Poblasyon to assess
18:28.7
the situation of the residents.
18:30.7
This area is known for its susceptibility
18:32.6
to landslides. Residents are
18:34.6
advised to remain cautious
18:36.1
and evacuate immediately if there are
18:38.5
signs of a landslide. And that's the latest
18:40.4
here. Harris Julio, ABS-CBN News.
18:43.4
Thanks a lot, Harris Julio.
18:44.8
They are joining us on the line.
18:48.5
two senators blamed the Manila
18:50.7
Bay reclamation for the massive
18:52.6
flooding at the Senate premises in
18:54.5
Pasay City. Former
18:56.3
Senate President Juan Miguel Zubedi
18:58.4
compared the flooding outside the Senate
19:00.5
to the waves of Siargao beaches.
19:02.7
He also slammed water leaks
19:04.5
inside the chamber's offices and elevators.
19:07.4
Senator Joel Villanueva
19:08.7
also blamed the reclamation project
19:10.6
for the widespread flooding in his
19:12.8
hometown, Bulacan. The senator
19:14.7
also criticized the Public Works and
19:16.7
Highways Department for allegedly
19:18.6
failing to address the problem.
19:27.1
Pampanga still reeling from the effects
19:28.9
of Carina. Gracie Udwitao
19:31.0
now joins us with the latest situation
19:32.9
from there. Gracie, over to you.
19:36.6
Yes, Richard. The city of San Fernando
19:38.6
has been severely affected by massive
19:40.8
flooding caused by continuous
19:42.5
rains brought by the southwest
19:44.2
monsoon intensified by Sison Carina.
19:47.0
In a rare occurrence, the city
19:48.6
proper of San Fernando was submerged
19:50.6
in water reaching up to two feet,
19:52.6
resulting in many stranded individuals
19:54.5
and damaged vehicles in the middle of the
19:56.7
flood. Despite the challenging conditions,
19:59.4
some are still determined to
20:00.6
navigate through the flood to reach
20:02.7
the mall. Enforcers continue to
20:04.7
manage the flow of vehicles, even
20:06.7
amidst the flooding rain. Several
20:08.6
churches were also flooded, including
20:10.8
Santa Rita de Casa Parish in
20:12.7
Santa Rita and presentation of the
20:14.6
Lord's Parish in Barangay Bacasan,
20:16.7
Macadere Town. Due to the rising
20:18.5
floodwaters, many motorists and
20:20.6
motorists were stranded, prompting the
20:22.5
Macadere Police to offer free rides
20:24.5
to those in need. In Sentimon Town,
20:27.0
a forced evacuation was implemented
20:28.8
for over 200 households.
20:30.8
In Barangay de La Paz, after
20:32.8
houses were submerged due to the
20:34.9
collapse of a wall that served as a
20:36.7
barrier for residents living near
20:38.8
the river, Mayor Tonton Bustos
20:40.8
of Mazantol captured the severity
20:43.0
of the flood in their town
20:44.6
through dunes put it in.
20:46.7
Showing the plaza, municipal grounds,
20:48.8
first floor, and all 26 Barangay's
20:50.6
submerged in water. This
20:52.6
morning, Pampanga Governor Dennis Pineda
20:54.7
distributed relief goods to
20:56.6
coastal Barangay in Sentimon and Macadere,
20:59.0
which Barangay used their own boats
21:00.8
to deliver food packs to affected
21:02.7
residents for a faster response
21:04.8
to the situation. According to
21:06.7
Pampanga Disaster Risk Reduction and Management
21:08.8
Office, as of morning,
21:10.7
120 Barangay from 12
21:12.8
municipalities in Pampanga
21:14.5
are submerged in floodwaters.
21:17.0
That's the latest in Pampanga.
21:20.6
Rutao there, joining us live.
21:22.3
The University of the Philippines' Nationwide
21:24.4
Operational Assessment of Hazards
21:26.5
or UPNOA on Wednesday
21:28.2
called on netizens to help in disaster
21:30.4
risk reduction efforts by taking
21:32.5
photos of flooded areas and identifying
21:34.7
them on UPNOA's flood
21:36.6
hazard map. Joining us now
21:38.5
to tell us more about this is the group's
21:40.3
Executive Director, Dr. Mahar
21:42.5
Lagmay. Dr. Lagmay, nice to talk
21:44.7
to you again. Thanks for joining us. Welcome to the program.
21:48.6
Good afternoon. Good afternoon na ba?
21:50.6
Good afternoon na tayo.
21:52.3
Good afternoon. Okay. So,
21:54.5
Dr. Lagmay, here's the thing. Based on the
21:56.7
initial data that you may
21:58.9
have already received from
22:00.6
yesterday's wrath of
22:02.6
the Habagat plus Typhoon Karina,
22:04.8
how has the hazard map changed
22:06.8
from previous data
22:08.7
recorded by the group?
22:11.3
Actually, Carmina,
22:12.6
it did not change.
22:14.8
made, yung call for
22:18.0
reports, citizen reports,
22:20.6
validate the simulations that
22:22.5
we made. And what happened
22:24.6
was that when we plotted,
22:26.5
actually, we've been doing this for
22:28.2
some time already. In fact,
22:30.9
even during Undoy, we started
22:32.5
this kind of program of crowdsourcing
22:34.5
and we find that the simulations
22:36.8
that we've been doing
22:42.6
reports of the crowd. It's
22:44.6
a good correlation, a very, very good
22:46.6
correlation. Okay. Now, we also
22:48.5
heard a couple of senators saying that,
22:50.6
there was flooding that was experienced in areas
22:52.9
like in Pasay, and they blamed
22:54.6
the reclamation projects for that.
22:57.1
The data that you
22:58.7
have, does that confirm
23:00.7
their theory that
23:02.7
the reclamation projects may have
23:06.4
I don't have any simulations,
23:08.6
or we don't have any simulations
23:12.6
a scenario incorporating
23:16.6
project. However,
23:18.3
we do have simulations
23:20.6
the Senate grounds without
23:22.4
the reclamation project,
23:24.6
and it shows already
23:26.7
that there's flooding in that
23:30.3
rainfall records that
23:32.5
came from Pag-Asa
23:34.3
that were used for the simulations.
23:38.6
reclamation, flooding would happen
23:46.2
even without the reclamation,
23:48.2
because of the lay of the
23:50.6
there, when we simulated it,
23:53.0
flooding is possible
23:54.7
in that area. It gets
23:56.7
reflected in our hazard
23:58.6
maps. All right. So, to
24:00.6
solely blame the reclamation
24:02.5
project for the flooding that
24:04.7
happened yesterday,
24:06.6
that doesn't reflect
24:10.7
findings. Because you, as you said, you already
24:12.6
said, based on your simulations, flooding
24:14.4
can happen there even
24:16.5
without the reclamation projects.
24:18.4
Now, there's also data coming
24:20.4
in, Dr. Lagmay, that the rainfall
24:22.7
yesterday is more
24:25.8
exceeded, actually, exceeded the
24:27.5
amount attributed to Andoy
24:31.9
How could the country have prepared
24:34.3
for this? I mean, now we're
24:36.6
learning about it belatedly, but was
24:38.6
there any other way for us to know
24:41.1
the amount of rainfall that
24:43.1
would have been dumped?
24:46.8
Well, actually, that's probably a limitation
24:50.4
of science. The current state of the
24:53.0
art, even here in
24:55.0
the University of the Philippines,
24:57.5
the meteorologists
24:59.1
here who do some forecasting
25:01.1
with their computer models
25:02.8
underestimated the
25:07.0
that happened yesterday.
25:08.9
And they were saying that
25:10.6
that's the state of the art of the science
25:12.9
and because of this kind of complex
25:15.0
system, it was not able
25:18.6
amount of rain that was
25:20.4
delivered yesterday. In fact,
25:22.7
I've been looking at the different
25:24.4
forecasts. The forecasts were saying
25:26.1
only 50 to 100 millimeters of rain.
25:28.6
And I was listening to the report
25:30.6
earlier in this program.
25:32.5
The amount of rain was
25:34.4
really a lot. I mean,
25:36.6
more than 200, more than 400
25:40.4
2 p.m. or was that the reverse?
25:44.5
that's the state of the art. And we must
25:46.4
acknowledge the limitations of science.
25:48.7
However, I would like to emphasize
25:50.4
that this is not the first time that
25:52.4
this has happened when there's a typhoon
25:54.4
passing north of the Philippines
26:00.4
July, August, September, when
26:02.4
we know that there's Habagat. And we also
26:04.4
know, based on the experiences
26:06.2
in Habagat, during Habagat
26:10.2
2014, Habagat 2018,
26:12.3
and now again, that
26:14.4
when there's a typhoon passing
26:18.4
of the Philippines, the Habagat,
26:20.4
that gets enhanced. And the monsoon
26:25.3
in Metro Manila. And we've been experiencing
26:30.4
this is something that we should remember.
26:33.1
It's been happening
26:34.0
and when there's some kind
26:36.5
of severe weather disturbance like that
26:38.5
or that kind of situation,
26:40.4
everybody should already know that.
26:44.8
repeat and repeat
26:47.9
this thing again.
26:50.4
I believe that everybody
26:52.2
has made a mistake,
26:56.4
Maybe it's not a mistake. Maybe we should just
26:58.4
do more in trying
27:00.2
to establish a culture of safety,
27:02.7
getting people to remember
27:04.4
what has happened in the past
27:05.9
so that when we remember,
27:08.3
we don't repeat the same mistakes.
27:10.1
We're always aware and we're always alert.
27:13.8
not that surprised.
27:15.9
But from where you sit, Dr. Lagmay, do you think
27:18.5
there was a problem of communicating it as well?
27:23.6
weather reports, for example,
27:25.8
it says there is this typhoon
27:27.6
and then it's going to enhance Habagat,
27:29.3
but it flies above the heads of many
27:31.7
and they don't really equate this
27:33.5
with the amount of rainfall that could be dumped.
27:40.0
Carmina. We have to do a lot more.
27:50.4
with the people who are involved
27:53.0
in DRR and climate change practice.
27:55.8
The responsibility
27:56.5
lies amongst all of us
27:59.0
and it's everybody's responsibility.
28:01.6
So, we should really do more.
28:06.8
education for better awareness.
28:10.1
Like, for example,
28:11.4
we've been promoting, you know this, Carmina,
28:13.3
we've been promoting the hazard maps,
28:15.7
encouraging people
28:18.9
And I was looking at the
28:20.4
search results of our website
28:32.5
just the day before that, we had zero.
28:35.0
And then, after that,
28:36.8
we have about less than
28:38.3
10 search requests.
28:40.3
So, it's only during the time
28:42.5
of crisis when we really
28:44.3
exert effort taking
28:46.5
a look at the things
28:48.6
that we really need to know.
28:50.4
Uh, to have known yesterday.
28:53.2
Talking about yesterday,
28:54.7
Dr. Lagmay, take for example
28:56.7
in, I think it was in
28:58.5
Agoncillo in Batangas
29:00.7
wherein four people died
29:02.7
due to a landslide.
29:04.3
And I asked the Vice Mayor yesterday
29:06.3
if that was already
29:08.4
considered a no-build zone
29:10.3
because of hazard mapping.
29:12.4
And he answered in the affirmative.
29:14.8
But they couldn't prevent
29:16.4
people from erecting structures there.
29:20.4
Um, a reclamation, I'm sorry,
29:22.4
relocation sites, that's what
29:24.7
he confirmed to us.
29:26.2
But it's really a matter of convincing
29:30.6
to these relocation sites.
29:32.3
Now, how do you, from where you
29:34.7
sit, I mean, of course we know what
29:36.6
the job of the LGU is, right?
29:38.7
Um, but then you still have
29:40.6
these kinds of incidents.
29:42.6
Four lives lost because
29:44.6
the call wasn't heeded. Go ahead.
29:48.9
with regard to your example, that's
29:50.4
really a conundrum. It's really very
29:52.5
hard to implement, um,
29:54.9
you know, no-build zones when
29:56.6
the main concern of the people is
29:58.3
livelihood to feed their family.
30:00.6
Uh, and that is why
30:02.5
land use planning is very
30:04.5
important, uh, to be
30:08.6
the community well
30:10.1
with risk-informed
30:12.3
and science-based information
30:14.5
so that they can translate into
30:16.3
projects, programs, and activities
30:18.8
that are also risk-informed.
30:20.4
Uh, and science-based.
30:24.9
we really need to plan well
30:26.6
and be able to convince all the stakeholders
30:28.8
that this is the way to go.
30:30.6
And it's not an easy task
30:32.9
because land is very valuable.
30:36.5
we tend to select
30:40.4
actually naturally hazardous.
30:42.5
Like, for example, we live
30:44.5
near the river because there's water.
30:46.5
We live near, uh,
30:50.4
we, we, we, yeah, we, we establish
30:52.6
communities in flood plains because
30:54.5
the soil is fertile. The same is
30:56.5
true for areas near
30:58.7
a volcano. The soil is fertile there,
31:00.7
but there are hazards. So,
31:02.8
what we really need to do is
31:04.5
to, to understand the situation
31:06.9
better, understand
31:08.4
as a community, uh,
31:10.6
what the hazards are, and make our
31:12.5
decisions that are science-based
31:14.9
and risk-informed.
31:18.4
these are general statements, but,
31:20.4
we need to put it at heart
31:22.6
and, uh, try to work
31:24.5
along that direction.
31:26.1
Going full circle now, um, you have
31:30.5
netizens to help in disaster risk
31:32.6
reduction efforts. I think it plays
31:34.3
very well into what you just said, that,
31:36.7
you know, everybody has to care here.
31:40.3
might be giving information to the public,
31:42.6
but if the public itself is
31:44.5
not caring enough to know
31:46.5
the dangers and the risks,
31:48.5
then it's all for naught as well. For them,
31:50.4
to understand, um, what the
31:52.4
information is all about, there's
31:54.3
gotta be a meeting,
31:56.3
a meeting point, right, at some,
31:58.4
at some point. So, yeah,
32:00.4
yeah, you're gonna add something?
32:02.6
Yeah, that's right. Your, your comment
32:04.2
is correct. It's, it's,
32:05.8
it's two-way, right? Uh, it's
32:08.3
not just about, uh, uh,
32:10.3
the responsibility of one authority
32:12.5
or group of institutions
32:14.6
or government. It's also
32:16.3
the responsibility of the public,
32:18.4
the individuals. Uh,
32:20.4
we must meet halfway
32:21.9
because no, no amount,
32:24.6
no amount of science and information
32:26.9
that you create will
32:30.4
people don't embrace it. So, we
32:32.5
must be more innovative in
32:34.4
trying to find solutions to solve that
32:36.5
problem. Apparently, we have not
32:38.7
cracked it, uh, as evidenced
32:40.5
by what happened yesterday,
32:41.8
but, uh, you know, we, we should
32:44.6
not stop trying. Yeah, and that's exactly
32:46.6
what UP NOAA is doing, is
32:48.5
to appeal to netizens to provide
32:50.4
photos and, and data.
32:52.5
Um, what has the response been?
32:55.5
Oh, the response was
32:56.4
very good. Um, in fact,
32:58.5
uh, the, the, the amount
33:00.4
of reports were a lot.
33:02.6
Uh, we added it to the numerous
33:04.7
reports that we've had during
33:06.5
thunderstorms, uh, that
33:08.4
happened from, from previous years,
33:10.4
including Habagat events from previous
33:14.5
results as well was, the validation
33:16.3
results were also good.
33:18.6
And I'd just like to add, Carmina,
33:20.4
that this is nothing new.
33:22.9
Um, we've done this during
33:24.4
Undoy, uh, crowdsourcing
33:26.3
to help map out the floods. Now
33:28.4
that we have better technologies, we
33:30.5
can complement the technologies
33:34.5
harness the power of, uh,
33:36.6
citizen efforts. We've done
33:38.5
that during, uh, what you
33:40.5
call this, during Taal's eruption.
33:42.3
We asked the, the netizens
33:44.7
to, to measure the,
33:46.7
the amount of ash or the thickness
33:48.4
of ash. There were a lot of reports,
33:50.4
and from the reports, we were able
33:52.4
to establish the volume of
33:54.4
erupt, the eruptive products of Taal,
33:56.8
the discharge rate, the
33:58.4
explosivity and index, and
34:00.4
we were able to publish the, uh,
34:02.1
the, the, the reports for that in,
34:04.4
in, in a journal. Um,
34:06.4
it raises the, the owners,
34:08.7
it raises the stake, the,
34:10.4
the, the ownership of the
34:12.4
public, of the, of the netizens
34:14.4
in trying to solve the problem
34:16.3
of disasters here
34:18.5
in the Philippines. And by
34:20.3
merging technology and,
34:22.3
and the efforts of the
34:24.2
citizens, we may be able
34:26.3
to come up with better products.
34:28.5
All right. We're going to have to leave it at that.
34:30.3
Dr. Mahal, Mahal Lagmay there.
34:32.9
Uh, NOAA, Project NOAA's, uh,
34:34.5
Executive Director joining us this
34:36.4
noon. Thanks again for taking our Zoom call.
34:38.4
Take care. Thank you very much.
34:40.6
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34:42.3
quick break. Up ahead, a massive
34:44.1
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34:46.2
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34:48.0
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of civilian deaths and the humanitarian crisis from Israel's campaign.
55:51.2
Netanyahu blames reports of hunger in Gaza on Hamas,
55:54.9
insisting Israel was protecting civilians in the enclave.
56:01.4
A small passenger plane belonging to Nepal's Saurya Airlines
56:06.1
make that crashes while taking off from the capital Kathmandu.
56:10.5
The 50-seater plane carrying two crew members and 17 technicians
56:14.3
was headed for regular maintenance at a newer airport.
56:18.1
Only the captain survived.
56:19.5
The crash again focuses attention on the poor air safety record
56:23.1
of the impoverished Himalayan nation,
56:25.1
which is heavily dependent on air connectivity due to its limited road network.
56:33.0
Back here at home, more than 1,000 evacuees in the flood-ravaged city of Manila
56:37.3
staying at the Delpan Sports Complex.
56:40.0
Our very own Victoria Tula now joins us with that story.
56:42.8
Victoria, what more can you tell us?
56:46.1
Almost 2,000 Manila residents are currently staying at the Delpan Evacuation Center
56:51.1
after the onslaught of Super Typhoon Carina.
56:53.8
According to Barangay 20, Chairman Anthony Igus,
56:56.6
they evacuated the residents since Monday because the waves were big
57:00.2
and some houses were already flooded.
57:02.6
Three days later, Igus says several houses have been destroyed.
57:06.7
Financial aid was given last night by the local government
57:09.1
ranging from 5,000 pesos to 10,000 pesos,
57:12.3
according to Manila Mayor Honey Laguna.
57:14.3
She said 4,400 families or around 20,000 individuals
57:19.4
have been evacuated in different parts of the city.
57:22.9
Laguna, together with Senator Amy Marcos,
57:25.1
distributed relief goods, particularly Nutriban, to the evacuees this morning.
57:30.0
Marcos said it is not the time to blame each other for the flood,
57:33.6
but she did point out that 1.4 billion pesos is allotted for flood control every day.
57:39.6
So she asked, where did the money go?
57:41.4
Meanwhile, she defended Vice President Sara Duterte,
57:44.3
who flew to Germany despite the calamity.
57:46.7
Marcos said the trip has long been planned.
57:49.4
Carina, we also talked to the evacuees at the Delpan Evacuation Center
57:53.1
and they said they need help with the school supplies of their children,
57:56.4
which have been washed out and some appealed for more financial aid to rebuild their homes.
58:02.3
We also went to Baseco Evacuation Center in Manila,
58:05.5
where about 1,800 residents are staying.
58:08.9
Relief goods are also being distributed to them.
58:12.7
Thanks a lot, Victoria Tula there.
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Thank you for joining us on The Line.
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And that'll do it for today.
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Thanks for joining us.
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I'm Carmina Constantino.
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