00:33.4
yun yung sinasabi ko,
00:39.7
anong cover-up nyo,
00:43.4
lalabas at lalabas pa rin
00:44.8
ang katotorangan.
01:02.4
the supplemental affidavit
01:06.7
or the corrected affidavit
01:12.1
in which Juan Macaraig,
01:14.2
PMSG Juan Macaraig is the team leader
01:18.5
that was involved
01:20.5
with regards to the shooting
01:32.5
all the affidavit by
01:35.8
personnel involved,
01:39.5
Except for Karandang
01:40.7
because Karandang,
01:42.0
when we have an executive session,
01:45.7
na Karandang was not part of the operation
01:49.1
but his name appears
01:51.6
to that operation.
01:54.6
Whatever is the purpose is,
01:56.6
yun na atang kalakaran sa PNP,
01:58.2
yun pa yung mga misyontseman ng mali dun.
02:00.0
Kasi kahit hindi ka kasali dun sa operation,
02:02.7
for promotion purposes,
02:05.3
kinakarga yung mga pangalan dun
02:06.7
ng kung sino-sino na lang.
02:08.2
Eto ngayon sumabit.
02:09.7
Now, of course, he explained
02:12.1
corrected affidavit
02:15.3
or supplemental affidavit that
02:17.5
he was not part of
02:21.3
Now, Mr. Chairman, looking at the
02:25.5
PMSG Juan Macaraig
02:27.7
as the head team leader,
02:30.0
what do you think of that team?
02:32.0
And I think almost all, no?
02:38.0
Kasi binasa ko lang yung first and second
02:40.0
paragraph of all the affidavit
02:44.0
except yung kay Macaraig.
02:46.0
Lahat po ay video pa rin-pareho pa rin ng tono
02:50.0
and I hope this is discorrected affidavit,
02:56.0
It is what really happens
03:02.0
When charisma was shot.
03:06.0
ang wala po dito, Mr. Chairman,
03:08.0
in the affidavit,
03:14.0
yung question. Ito kasi
03:16.0
yung question of how happens,
03:18.0
no? Yung actual operation.
03:20.0
But the planning,
03:22.0
ayun yung sabi kanina ni
03:24.0
Chairman Barbers,
03:26.0
who are those involved?
03:28.0
Outside of that six, hindi nga siya,
03:30.0
kasi makarandang is not involved
03:34.0
Is that part of the plan? Is that part of the operation?
03:36.0
His name was just
03:40.0
post-operation report.
03:42.0
Now, ang question dito, Mr. Chairman,
03:46.0
to get to the bottom of this,
03:48.0
all of this, we should check
03:50.0
what was involved during the planning
03:52.0
and where it was involved
03:58.0
that was made on the
04:00.0
first affidavit of all those
04:02.0
personnel involved.
04:08.0
Ah, before I proceed with that,
04:10.0
Mr. Chairman, tatanong kayo mamaya si
04:12.0
Makarahig na lang.
04:14.0
Are you sure that you have
04:16.0
baka ito ah, Perez,
04:18.0
you are the one that approached
04:22.0
And in your affidavit, I read
04:24.0
ah, you recovered
04:26.0
two sachets of shabu.
04:28.0
Parapin na, shabu.
04:30.0
Tama po. Yes po, Sir.
04:32.0
That is four grams?
04:36.0
dalawang sachet ba, four grams, iyon?
04:38.0
Yes, Sir. Yes po, Your Honor.
04:40.0
Sigurado ka? Yes, Sir.
04:42.0
Eh baka mamaya may lalabas na naman
04:44.0
na walang shabu nakuha.
04:46.0
Sir, kanya po iyon, Sir.
04:50.0
Tapos two, four grams ah?
04:54.0
Two sachets, Sir, more than
04:56.0
four grams, Sir. Ah, iyon
04:58.0
po, eh, chinecheck ko lang, Chairman, kasi mamaya.
05:00.0
Baka mamaya, biglang lumitaw.
05:02.0
Eh, sunuling ka na naman.
05:04.0
Eh, problema mo na naman
05:14.0
operation report,
05:16.0
kaya nga yung narrative nung nakaraan
05:20.0
Inadmit na dito sa mga
05:24.0
corrected affidavit.
05:28.0
sinong gumawa ng narrative na iyon?
05:32.0
Is it Perez alone?
05:36.0
Macaraegas team leader?
05:38.0
Or somebody else?
05:42.0
Who is the director
05:44.0
of such narrative?
05:50.0
sino bang gumawa nun
05:52.0
nung narrative na iyon, kayo-kayo lang ba?
05:58.0
Eh, baka, yun yung sinasabi ko,
06:02.0
kasi, kahit anong
06:06.0
anong cover up nyo,
06:08.0
lalabas at lalabas pa rin
06:12.0
Mamaya, tatanong ko yan.
06:14.0
Kaya nga ngayon pa lang,
06:16.0
Macaraeg and Perez,
06:18.0
you're the most senior officer
06:22.0
Baka mamaya mag-executive session ako ulit,
06:24.0
may sasabihin na naman.
06:26.0
I will ask the chair for an executive session.
06:28.0
Kasi, kailangan yun.
06:30.0
Kasi hindi natapos
06:34.0
Question of the narrative.
06:36.0
Pare-pareho kayo eh.
06:40.0
Who is the director of that narrative?
06:44.0
Where is Macaraeg?
06:48.0
Sinong director nung
06:54.0
Oh, you're on now.
06:58.0
Eh, mamaya pag na
07:02.0
pag nagsinungaling ka,
07:04.0
problema ko pa rin.
07:06.0
Papakulong kami namin dito.
07:08.0
Kasi babalikan ko mamaya yung tanong
07:16.0
Bigyan kita ng isang clue. Nandiyan ba ang
07:18.0
affidavit mo? Hawak mo ba?
07:22.0
Number 13. Basahin mo.
07:26.0
Ang problema sa inyo,
07:28.0
eh may gusto ko i-salba.
07:32.0
Mamaya si patrolman,
07:34.0
siya na yan? Patrolman?
07:36.0
What's your name? Patrolman?
07:40.0
Ah, baka mamaya si
07:42.0
patrolman Carpio na naman yung ano.
07:48.0
Sisimula ni Carpio, then lahat kayo
07:56.0
Yes, sir. Oh, anong laman ng
07:58.0
affidavit number 13 mo?
08:04.0
Yung last sentence.
08:06.0
Oh, sabi mo dito, ah.
08:12.0
Alpha to ride the car
08:14.0
and we will go back to the station
08:16.0
to report what happened
08:18.0
to Police Lieutenant Colonel
08:20.0
Lintag, our Police Chief
08:22.0
John Juan Batangas.
08:24.0
Yes, sir. Oh, anong
08:26.0
oras nangyari ito? Yung pag-report
08:30.0
Ah, after na po, sir, nung
08:32.0
mangyari doon sa... Anong
08:34.0
oras nga? Ano yung after?
08:38.0
kumigit ko po lang po sa...
08:44.0
Did you report personally to him?
08:46.0
O tumawag ka lang?
08:48.0
Balik, nagpunta po
08:50.0
kami mismo sa istasyon.
08:52.0
O, nagkita kayo doon? Yes, sir.
08:56.0
an hour? Two hours?
08:58.0
Three hours? After the operation?
09:00.0
After the operation po, nung
09:02.0
madala po sa district hospital.
09:04.0
Doon po kami dumi... O, then, siyang
09:06.0
gumawa ng recommendation sa province.
09:08.0
Ipinaalam po namin sa... Siyang
09:10.0
gumawa ng recommendation sa province, di ba?
09:12.0
Yes, sir. O, yun ang
09:14.0
sinasabi ko. Chairman,
09:16.0
chairman, kasi dito, sa narrative
09:18.0
narrative dito, ang
09:20.0
gagawa talaga ng recommendation doon sa
09:22.0
case is the city direct...
09:26.0
chief of police. O,
09:28.0
nandito ba yung chief of police?
09:30.0
Ikaw ba gumawa ng ano?
09:32.0
Nag-report to the province?
09:38.0
Good morning, sir. O,
09:40.0
ang ginawa ko, sir, yung...
09:42.0
pinagpumirma ko, sir, ng spot report.
09:46.0
mga request, sir, sa balistik, sa...
09:50.0
saka sa autopsy, sir.
09:54.0
basis ko po, sir, ay yung statement
09:56.0
sa akin, sir, ng mga operatives po.
09:58.0
Hindi. Ang question kasi,
10:00.0
kung anong sinabi nila,
10:02.0
ayun yun, hook, line, and sinker.
10:06.0
Yun ang ginawa mo. You never
10:08.0
made an investigation.
10:10.0
I mean, namatay na eh. May
10:12.0
naputukan. Nagkaroon po, sir,
10:14.0
ng judicial affidavit po
10:16.0
yung poster buyer, saka po
10:18.0
yung investigator.
10:22.0
again, ikaw, pinawandin
10:24.0
kita kasi pag binarikan ko mamaya.
10:26.0
I will ask you, Mr. Chairman,
10:28.0
ganito na lang, why didn't you
10:30.0
admit during the previous hearing,
10:32.0
if you're not part of the group
10:34.0
which planned and made
10:36.0
that narrative post-operation,
10:38.0
why did you not admit
10:40.0
that indeed that car,
10:42.0
that Camry red car,
10:44.0
Camry was used and it is impounded
10:48.0
Sir, with regards to the car,
10:54.0
I was in good faith, sir, na sinabi ko po
10:56.0
na hindi ako pamilya sa car. But because,
10:58.0
sir, yung car, sir, ay
11:00.0
hindi po siya naka-impound, sir,
11:02.0
sa premises po ng station.
11:04.0
The barrier, that's the police
11:08.0
Eh, may kaano nga dito eh, di ba? May
11:12.0
With regards to that?
11:14.0
Di ba nagpadala kayo dito?
11:18.0
You're at the police station, commander.
11:24.0
Ba't nung tinanong ka ng isang member namin,
11:26.0
chairman ako ba daw, si chairman Dan?
11:32.0
Yes, sir, hindi po talaga ako pamilya, sir, kasi po,
11:34.0
hindi po siya naka-park doon sa
11:36.0
premises na ng station, sir.
11:38.0
Oh, ngayon ang tanong.
11:42.0
Ikaw at siya po, pulis ka.
11:46.0
You're using that car. Did you ask permission
11:48.0
from your chief of police?
11:52.0
permiso na gamitin yun?
11:56.0
Sir, honor, ang bali po ang naggamit po
11:58.0
yung kabilang team ni...
12:00.0
Hindi nga, ikaw ang team leader eh.
12:04.0
Ayan, nagbabatuwa na naman kayo.
12:06.0
Tinatanong kita diretsa, ikaw ang team leader.
12:08.0
Did you ask permission from your chief of
12:10.0
police to use that car?
12:12.0
O ba't hindi ka makasagot?
12:14.0
O ba't hindi ka makasagot?
12:16.0
Chairman, wala rin itong kapidamit ito.
12:18.0
I will recommend, personally,
12:20.0
to the committee,
12:22.0
doon sa committee report,
12:24.0
ba't hindi ka makasagot ng diretsa?
12:26.0
You cannot answer because
12:28.0
you want to hide something.
12:36.0
Akala ko ayos na tayo.
12:42.0
Did you ask permission? Again ah,
12:44.0
this will be my last question.
12:46.0
Did you ask permission
12:48.0
from your chief of police
13:00.0
Or do you know that
13:02.0
makaraig ask permission to use that car
13:04.0
from your chief of police?
13:08.0
hindi ko po alam, your honor eh.
13:10.0
Pero alam mo, may powerpoint.
13:14.0
Alam mo na yung powerpoint yun?
13:18.0
Okay. What's the driver of that car?
13:20.0
Red? Ah, D. Chavez ba?
13:24.0
Oh. Paano mo nakuha yung sasakyan?
13:26.0
Who orders you to get, to use that car?
13:34.0
Pamilang po, sir, yung
13:36.0
pasasumakay doon. Apat po kami, sir.
13:38.0
And then, tanong ko, sino nagbigay siya ng order to use that car?
13:40.0
Sino nagbigay sa'yo ng
13:44.0
na gamitin yung sasakyan na yan?
13:48.0
Wala po, your honor.
13:52.0
Wala nag-uuto sa'yo? So, ginamit niyo lang?
13:56.0
Si makaraig hindi,
13:58.0
never instructed you to use that car?
14:00.0
No, po, your honor.
14:04.0
So, may usapan niyo ni
14:08.0
nung director niyo, chief of police niyo,
14:10.0
gamitin yung pulang sasakyan, pero you never instructed
14:18.0
nagagamit na po sa GAYO nung
14:20.0
una pa. Kaya po nung
14:22.0
biglaang lakad po ay... Paki, lapit mo yung ano?
14:24.0
Your honor, dati po ay
14:26.0
sa ibang lakad ay nagamit din po. Ay
14:28.0
nung biglaang po lakad ay
14:30.0
nagamit na po din po. Okay.
14:32.0
So, sa mga biglaang lakad,
14:34.0
ginagamit niyo yun.
14:36.0
Ngayon, itong operation na to, ginamit niyo ulit.
14:40.0
sa mga presumption mo, alam ni
14:44.0
Ang immediate officer mo
14:46.0
is the chief of police.
14:54.0
It was being used not only
14:56.0
in this operation. It was
14:58.0
used in the previous operations.
15:00.0
Tapos, hindi mo alam?
15:02.0
You're not familiar?
15:04.0
Totoo po, sir, na hindi ko po...
15:06.0
hindi ako familiar sa car na yun,
15:08.0
sir, kasi hindi po siya
15:10.0
park sa... hindi ko na siya...
15:12.0
Whatever. An inventory and everything,
15:14.0
you don't have to check. Kailan ka ba
15:16.0
umapod doon as chief of police?
15:18.0
Yun po, sir, ang pagkakambali ko, hindi ko po
15:20.0
maya... Hindi, kailan ka ba umapod doon as chief of police?
15:22.0
August 27, 2022, sir.
15:26.0
Yes, your honor. O,
15:28.0
kailan nangyari yun?
15:46.0
that's more than 2 years.
15:48.0
That's more than 2 years.
15:50.0
O, hindi mo alam?
15:52.0
Nangyari sa sakyan doon na pula?
15:56.0
beses na pala nila ginagamit?
15:58.0
What kind of voice, sir, you are?
16:00.0
Hindi mo alam yung mga
16:08.0
Now, ang worst is,
16:12.0
kung anong narrative nila, yun ang
16:16.0
Unless, sasabihin ni Perez,
16:18.0
sabihin ni Macaraig,
16:20.0
that you are part of that narrative.
16:28.0
yung chief of police iba,
16:30.0
bahagi doon sa report nyo, post-report nyo,
16:34.0
wp, mabub rested nyo?
16:36.0
No, sir. bali kami kami lompuyong
16:39.0
nung regarding sa affidavit.
16:40.0
Regarding sa affidavit, sir,
16:54.0
O yung affidavit ninyo,
17:00.0
No, sir. Assistive Alaska
17:02.0
ng lawyer, sir. Ikaw Command of Police.
17:04.0
Ikaw? Yung sa'yo?
17:10.0
Sir, ang tinutukoy ko pong affidavit, sir, yung nauna.
17:13.0
Pero ngayon, sir, sa pangalawa, may lawyer na po, sir.
17:15.4
Ah, yung sa una, karandang, mayroon kayo?
17:19.6
Oh, no. So, kayo-kayo lang?
17:25.2
Maliban doon sa ano, sa sinong jefe mo talaga?
17:28.7
Direct na principal mo, sino?
17:31.4
Police Detainant Colonel Lintag, sir.
17:34.6
Wala kang commission officer na official?
17:39.5
So, direct so ka kayo, Lintag?
17:43.7
So, ang gusto ko lang i-correct, ah, because
17:46.5
Light Colonel Lintag is kept on denying that he knows
17:51.6
that the car, the red car is being used
17:55.2
and it is under the custody of your station.
18:04.0
Nung ginamit niyo yung pulang sasakyan,
18:11.4
kinausap mo ba sa jefe that he will use that car?
18:19.5
ikaw ang nag-drive, di ba?
18:24.1
nung planning stage, nandiyan ka na?
18:28.3
Oso, si Makaraig ang nagpa-plano,
18:30.9
head ng planning niyo?
18:32.9
Oso, sinabi niya,
18:33.9
nagamitin niyo yung pulang sasakyan?
18:39.7
Basta yun lang po yung available,
18:41.2
yun na po ang ginamit namin, Your Honor.
18:46.2
So, decision niya lang na kung ano lang
18:48.0
available na car, pwedeng gamitin kagad.
18:51.9
Yun yung kalakaran doon.
18:56.9
Ganun ba, Makaraig, di Chavez?
18:59.4
Yun po nangyari, Your Honor.
19:01.7
And you are doing it for the possible benefit,
19:03.9
for all operation, ha?
19:07.0
Ginagamit niyo yun?
19:08.2
Sa ilang mga lakad?
19:12.4
So, Mr. Chairman,
19:16.8
I will give the benefit of the doubt
19:18.4
to Lieutenant Colonel Lintag
19:21.1
with regards to his knowledge
19:28.2
But, at the very least,
19:30.2
may problema sa Mr. Chairman.
19:33.9
Hindi niya alam kung anong nangyayari sa stasyon niya.
19:36.1
Lumalakad yung mga
19:38.3
mga personnel niya na hindi niya alam.
19:49.6
nakahang pa rin yung Mr. Chairman yung tanong,
19:52.8
question of those,
19:54.3
not only those six,
19:56.0
kahit hindi ka randang, i-out mo na yan,
19:57.6
wala sa plano yan.
19:58.6
Now, yung six, nakahang pa rin, Mr. Chairman,
20:01.6
kung sino ba talaga ang iba po.
20:02.1
kung sino ba talaga ang iba po.
20:02.1
kung sino ba talaga ang iba po.
20:02.5
kung sino ba talaga ang iba po.
20:03.0
kung sino ba talaga ang iba po.
20:03.4
Kung kung sino ba talaga ang iba po.
20:05.5
dun sa planning at the same time sa post-operation report,
20:09.5
yung narrative na ginawa nila.
20:12.1
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
