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You've always said that.
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I have always been gay.
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Hindi, kaya sabi ko, hindi ako magta-transition kasi I'm not a woman, I'm gay.
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Bakla ako talaga eh.
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Yung sensibilities ko, yung pagkatao ko, hindi pang babae.
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And you express free.
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Yun tayo dapat, ano, yun tayo dapat pag-usapan eh.
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Kasi it seems to me that if you are gay,
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you are not a woman, according to Vice.
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May clear distinction siya between being a gay,
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and being a gay person, and being female.
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Of course, ibang-ibang babae.
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Sa tingin ko kasi,
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there is no reconstructive surgery that can,
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you can look like a girl,
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pero you will never,
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you can look like a woman,
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but you will never be a woman.
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Kasi a woman has,
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they produce naturally estrogen,
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Number two is they give birth.
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Some of them has genetic anomalies or disease that prevents them from doing so.
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But this is under the condition that they have disease.
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Under normal working condition,
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a woman is always going to bear children.
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A gay person or a trans woman for that matter will never do that.
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Sana wag akong makansi dito sa mga statement na ito.
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Well, actually hindi talaga akong magugustuhan ng mga LGBT.
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Kasi, well, we're just trying to figure this out together.
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yung gender ideology,
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wala pa silang mass adoption.
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meron pa tayong isang guest speaker.
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Kung nakita nyo naman sa thumbnail,
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yan si Sasa Girl.
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iba yung sasabihin niya,
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same movement sila,
02:20.5
So, it's kind of weirding me out na
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pareho silang nasa LGBTQ community,
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pero magkaiba yung standpoint nila.
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Tuloy natin kaya Vice.
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Yung sensibilities ko,
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yung pagkatao ko,
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hindi pang babae,
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And you express freely.
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Doon ako, doon ako,
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parating sinasabi na,
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and your LGBT discourse,
02:46.6
ay napakalaking tulong
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Yun. Actually, mas magandang pakinggan si Vice
02:53.6
pagdating sa everything gay.
02:57.6
Huwag lang about saan eh.
02:59.4
Well, yung may mga morality purposes,
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Or sa mga philosophy, huwag doon.
03:04.6
Pero pagdating sa LGBT,
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mas, ano siya eh,
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mas vocal siya eh.
03:09.6
compared dito sa susunod na speaker natin,
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mas okay siya pakinggan.
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maraming tao ngayon ang hindi na nagtatanong
03:17.6
kasi nakikita ka.
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iya, balik natin doon.
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I agree with Boy.
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Kasi, ah, Tito Boy, kasi,
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hindi ko dumi ka.
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Nakikita Tito Boy ka.
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ang kagandahan kay Vice kasi,
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she's very well spoken.
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Or he is very well spoken.
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I can misgender him or her
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nang di siya magagalit sa akin.
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Pag iinisin lang ako,
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share ka, ganun lang siya.
03:42.6
But he is not going to be offended
03:48.6
kaya ko mag-adjust sa ganun.
03:50.6
Of course, meron kaming disagreement ni Vice,
03:52.6
pero not every time ay magdi-disagree ako sa kanya.
03:56.6
In this instance,
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Kasi may objective way of looking at it.
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Meron pa lang mga gay people
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na iba yung sensibility sa babae.
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So, may distinction na
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na it's a different set
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or it's a different branch of gender,
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So, ayan, may distinction na. Okay?
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So, yung susunod na speaker natin.
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Kasi nakikita ka.
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At nagigets ko yun.
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To you, it's a constraint.
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Aanohin ko lang, ha.
04:30.6
Seset up ko lang tong video na to.
04:32.6
Etong video na to ay galing to sa Tugmang Preso,
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kung saan pinatamaan ni Luni si Sasa Girl.
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Sabi niyang ganun, bakit si Sasa,
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yung kanyang marihawan na walang sinabi yung PIDEA,
04:44.6
pero yung Tugmang Preso, ayun nga,
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gustong ipaban and all of that.
04:48.6
So, or yung AMATS,
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I'm sorry, yung AMATS pala.
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Mali. Mali ako doon.
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So, alam niyo naman si Luni kasi,
04:56.6
timayan ng, well, in my opinion,
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Pero, kasi yun yung sinabi niya sa amin, sa akin.
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So, ako naniniwala ako doon.
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Eh, kayo bahala kayo.
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Pero, not the point.
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Gusto ko lang i-bring up dito.
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Ang gusto kong pag-usapan dito,
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yung sinabi niya,
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kasi all of a sudden,
05:19.6
it became a gender issue.
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And eto yung letanya niya.
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To me, it's a victory.
05:24.6
For the longest time,
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I get to do something
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for the first time.
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All the respect to Sir Luni and what you do,
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but I just want you to know
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na I've been here
05:34.6
and matagal na namin yung realidad to
05:35.6
for the longest time.
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Ano ba yung reality to?
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Ang sinasabi niya lang,
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kasi marami kasing pwedeng maging factors
05:44.6
kung bakit mas okay ang pideya sa'yo
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during the time na sinulat mo yung kantang yun.
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You are more visible to the younger audience
05:54.6
than Shanty Dope and Luni.
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Siguro, it's a different thing.
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So I won't let a man take a success of a woman like me.
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Narinig niyo yun?
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So I won't take a woman, ulit.
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So I won't let a man take a success of a woman like me.
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So dito, banda rito sa ano na ito,
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sinabi niya, natural siya.
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but I just want the victory.
06:20.6
For the longest time,
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I get to do something
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for the first time.
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All the respect to Sir Luni and what you do,
06:27.6
but I just want you to know,
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na I've been here.
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To you, it's a frustration.
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So dito, sinasabi niya na trans niya,
06:35.6
pero in-identify niya naman dito as woman.
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Ngayon, this is my gripes dito.
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Dito sa dalawang video na to.
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So this is a woman.
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This is si Gay, yung kay Vice Ganda.
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these are three distinct branches of gender.
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well, yung sa sinayong na-discuss ko kanina.
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Someone who gets pregnant.
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Someone who has a womb.
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Someone who produces estrogen naturally.
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X and XX chromosomes
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sa kanyang genes.
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those are very distinct identifiers of a woman.
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Hindi mo pwedeng ibahin yun.
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There is no amount of argument that you can make to change that.
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If your argument is just,
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kasi e paano yung mga hindi nanganganak?
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These are just anomalies.
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Genetic anomalies.
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Could be disease.
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But they are still of the nature of being a woman.
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Babae pa rin sila.
07:55.6
Balik-balikta rin mo rang.
07:56.6
Meron lang nangyaring slight problem nung simula.
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But still they are women.
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Hindi mo pwedeng ibahin yun.
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pag tinignan mo si Vice,
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is someone who has,
08:12.6
well, siguro homosexual tendencies.
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Kasi he wants other men.
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Or he wants to dress like a girl.
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But he is not a woman.
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Kasi this person cannot bear children.
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Kaya siguro hindi nagagalit si Vice ganda
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pag tinawag mo siyang sir.
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Or at least he learned to live with it.
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Or she learned to live with it.
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Kasi ganun talaga eh.
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So may distinction siya about being a woman and a gay.
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ang trans naman is someone who went under the knife.
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Yun yung tawag nila kapag nagpapasurgery.
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Na nagpalagay siya ng mga enhancements
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para ma-replicate yung pagiging babae.
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hindi ka naman pwedeng tubuan ng,
09:12.6
hindi ka naman pwedeng tubuan ng matres
09:14.6
pag nagpalagay ka ng suso.
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Or pagka pinatanggal mo yung burat
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at minodify mo para maging kipay,
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miski kahit anong mangyari,
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hindi pa rin yun makakapagproseso ng pregnancy.
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You cannot simulate or you cannot a pregnancy
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even if you remove your pututuis.
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Even if you have the best kipay in the world,
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you're still not a woman.
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you cannot be pregnant.
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it is also very different
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from someone who already has kipay,
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yung mga babae na hindi makapagpanganak.
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Sila kasi meron silang problema na iba sayo.
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Ikaw, ang problema sayo,
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you think that you're a woman,
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pero that's why you went this
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metamorphic process of change
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bilang transwoman.
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wala silang binago except one factor.
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Siguro it's a genetic anomaly,
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siguro it's an accident,
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pero they are always of the nature of getting pregnant.
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That's the difference.
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So in my opinion, mga kamatis, mga kaibigan,
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or at least payo ko sa mga LGBT dito sa Pilipinas,
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please have a distinction
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between woman, gay, and trans.
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Para hindi kami nalilito.
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Kasi ang kulang dito sa Pilipinas is LGBT education.
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I am very willing to learn.
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Pero if ginawa nyo,
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kunyari yung ginawa ni Sir Jude,
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na you are going to hold someone at arm's length,
10:58.6
patayuin doon for gender-sensitive training,
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wala tayong ma-achieve.
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Magkakakuha pa kanyang resistance.
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Magkaroon tayo ng magandang usapan dito
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para hindi tayo magtalo-talo.
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Very sensitive eh.
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Gaya-gaya mga lads.
