00:41.7
comm Uh just want to ask the PNP Uh did
00:45.7
you use tgas and were you armed when you
00:49.7
entered the premises of the kjc
00:53.6
Definitely not sir because we don't have
00:57.6
masks Thank you Mr ch to use steer gas
01:01.4
We must prepare for gas mask three hours
01:04.0
of the of the 24th of august I
01:06.8
approached general tore and I said to
01:09.1
him ikaw mulat simula wala kang ginawang
01:11.9
legal at moral and then he said like
01:14.4
what and then I said wala kang search
01:17.1
warrant and then he said patandaan na
01:20.5
tayong dalawa Hindi mahalaga yon that's
01:23.0
what he said the search warrant as again
01:26.1
Sir I will reiterate is for objects
01:30.6
illegal items and we never said that
01:33.5
there are illegal items contrabands or
01:37.6
things that we are searching in kjc what
01:40.7
we are searching for in kjc sir is apo
01:45.8
others just point out something that
01:48.8
even though it has gone through
01:50.6
ridiculous lengths you look at the face
01:53.2
of general and what you will see is the
01:56.4
face of someone who doesn't care he
02:01.8
that matters siya ang batas sa
02:04.6
presentation ko inadmit mo Yes
02:13.0
you because you know it pays me
02:17.1
to you cont if I need to do that because
02:21.5
you are the Regional director of
02:24.2
this particular police regional office
02:30.1
to continue because par nas sck tayo sir
02:34.4
As I have said this is my committee I
02:38.4
decide what to listen and What not to
02:41.6
listen Okay we will not stop until Mr
02:45.2
Kiboy is arrested because we really can
02:47.5
to turn our back against the Uh we can
02:50.4
to turn our back against the helpless
02:52.2
and Voiceless victims of
02:56.1
As I will I have to to cut you short mm
03:00.8
you need not Explain that to them alam
03:03.6
nila yan Thank you alam nila yan ako
03:08.1
magpaputol ako dito ng limang kamay ko
03:11.5
hindi nila alam yan They know that alam
03:14.8
nila yan Excuse me Mr chair yeah yeah
03:18.6
did I understand it right that you would
03:20.4
cite him for contest if you caught him
03:23.7
lying Yeah if he lying before this
03:26.2
committee I he lied Mr chair Why with
03:31.4
video I just would like to to tell you
03:35.5
frankly if General T is lying before
03:38.8
this committee I will not hesitate to
03:41.7
him in contemp Uh but
03:44.8
please Hwag mong i-cite yung chair na
03:48.6
icem si kasi magiging let me let me
03:53.3
decide let me decide as the Chairman
03:56.5
committee I know if he's lying or not
04:02.0
Please do do not keep on urging me
04:07.2
to Yan po ang pictures po na may mga
04:18.8
dala-dala smoke grenade
04:25.4
isas No one is above the law sabi ng
04:29.7
pulis ka nasa gobyerno na may mataas na
04:32.4
katungkulan o normal na mamamayan you
04:35.4
are not about the la en rekto kalaban
04:38.9
ang katiwalian at kasinungalingan
04:41.0
kakampe sa katotohanan at
04:46.8
kabuan I would like to request if it's
04:49.6
possible to have account for the lies
04:52.1
that Uh general tor is c saying like for
04:55.4
the past past How many minutes pa lang
04:57.4
Nakailang sinungaling na siya and this
05:01.8
is has arrogance and to to senators then
05:07.1
what what what chance do we ordinary
05:09.8
cens have with a man holding a gun Well
05:19.2
allity regardless K Regal
05:22.2
Director If I find lying Before I can in
05:30.9
ch leave to me to determine the lies
05:34.5
it's for you to determine the lies it's
05:37.6
commit once again Good afternoon I'm
05:40.3
sorry Mr chair but I have to leave
05:42.4
because I have other matters to attend
05:43.9
to but may I be allowed to leave a
05:46.5
question you have the Flor may Uh I just
05:49.5
want to ask the PNP Uh did you use te
05:52.4
gas and were you armed when you enter
05:55.6
the premises of the kjc um Mr this do
06:00.0
not to be answered right now I just
06:02.1
leave the question Uh to the floor again
06:05.6
thank you Thank you kjc Thank you PNP
06:08.8
for everybody Who's here Mayor I can
06:13.5
answer when you when you get inside the
06:17.5
compound of kjc arm Sir Yes we have a
06:20.2
personel who has firearms as part of the
06:22.4
security of the cdm sir standard
06:24.0
procedure you that because all the
06:26.5
videos circulating around the internet
06:30.7
shows that armado Kayo ba Yes Sir
06:35.0
andas definit Definitely not sir because
06:38.2
we don't have gas
06:41.0
masks if we intend to use ste gas We
06:43.7
must prepare for gas mask standard
06:45.1
operating procedure sir correct i agree
06:48.4
i agree you canot use gas kung wala
06:52.7
kang mas ikaw rin Tatamaan So you stand
07:02.0
kung We will show it in our presentation
07:04.7
Sir maraming ang ginamit sir hindi lang
07:10.0
usok sir exactly sir Kasi ganyan na
07:12.3
ganyan sir ang video na ipapakita rin
07:14.3
namin sir pero kang kita sir kung saan n
07:16.5
galing later sir thank you Thank you ch
07:23.0
yes it is of note to tell you lang that
07:26.2
to report to you that in the we hours of
07:28.5
the of the 4 of august I approached
07:31.4
General T and I said to him ikaw
07:34.0
nagsimula wala kang ginawang legal at
07:35.8
moral and then he said like what and
07:38.4
then I said wala kang search warrant and
07:40.8
then he said patandaan na tayong dalawa
07:43.5
Hindi mahalaga yon that's what he
07:56.7
be will be my word against her word I
07:59.2
did not say that and at that at that
08:01.4
instance I understand
08:05.1
Ma'am videos there videos So may video
08:08.4
may video my video whatever the video
08:10.3
say but in that instance sir it is
08:12.9
already established until they want to
08:14.4
question it again we don't need a search
08:16.5
warrant to implement the warrant of
08:18.8
arrest the search warrant as again Sir I
08:21.2
will reiterate is for objects
08:23.6
contrabands illegal items and we never
08:26.4
said that we there are illegal items
08:29.5
contrabands or things that we are
08:31.7
searching in kjc what we are searching
08:34.2
for in kjc sir is Apollo Kiboy and for
08:37.6
others but the requirement before you
08:40.3
serve the warrant of arrest is that you
08:43.0
should have reasonable ground to believe
08:45.2
that the person that you are going to
08:46.7
arrest is inside that facility that you
08:49.8
are going to Uh get into we have more
08:52.5
than ground Yes Sir by what we have by
08:56.1
means This is the second time that this
08:58.6
warrant is Uh Uh I Served by the PNP the
09:01.9
first one is in Jun tel we have Intel
09:04.4
reports we have Uh the the pastorals and
09:08.7
Witnesses who had already tumiwalag na
09:12.0
sil sa kanilang grupo we have informance
09:14.5
and by all indication sir Ang tagal
09:16.6
naming sinurvey ang lugar sir talagang
09:18.4
sinurvey yan sir ch may I just say may
09:20.6
just point out something that even
09:22.5
though it has gone through ridiculous
09:24.3
lengths you look at the face of general
09:26.6
tore and what you will see is the face
09:29.1
of someone who doesn't care his
09:31.6
interpretation right now is the only
09:33.3
thing that matters siya ang batas and
09:35.7
that was that was how we have
09:37.7
experienced him All These days yung
09:39.9
kapritso yyung whims yung very
09:42.0
tyrannical ako ang batas kahit nakaharap
09:44.4
muna yung mga senador nag-behave ka lang
09:47.0
diyan No because but in real address
09:50.0
your to the ch direkta sa kanya Yes Mr
09:53.6
ch Sorry um so ganon lang yan that's all
09:56.6
I want to say really that it's very even
09:59.0
though it G ridiculous LS no for him if
10:03.2
What He believes and what we've
10:04.6
experienced no is that his
10:06.4
interpretation is the one that matters
10:08.4
And it will be the one that will get
10:10.3
followed wala ng rule of law lahat
10:13.1
iikutin through ridiculous L your
10:16.4
observation is very valid and taking
10:18.6
note of that and sa presentation inadmit
10:26.4
hindi ako mismo ako mismo no to before
10:30.2
me because ako mismo pinuntahan ko
10:32.6
kanina sa inspe kanina hinukay namin
10:35.6
doon very fres pa yung semento na ginawa
10:38.8
at nung natanggal yung semento yung mga
10:41.6
kabilya na nilagay doon hindi kabilya na
10:44.3
construction na related kabilya Kundi
10:47.3
kung saan sa napot na kabilya yon and
10:50.2
yung lupa is very lost but then
10:52.9
that's material anymore to discuss about
10:55.4
that because you admit that you did the
10:57.8
digging below the
11:02.2
GMC buing Yes Sir I have i have lots of
11:06.2
bosses who are cl7 and they can testify
11:09.3
on the kind of Destruction that of first
11:15.2
ros sir can come can come to them if
11:16.9
they if they Vi the rul so I really will
11:19.8
not there to do that and like Be sure
11:21.8
just be sure because you know it pays me
11:24.6
to S your cont if I need to do that
11:28.8
because you Regional director of this Uh
11:31.1
Uh particular police regional office of
11:33.5
this region said it in a presscon so Mr
11:35.9
chair Uh this again is the problem that
11:39.0
he maybe can Tell the Truth to you but
11:41.4
once you le for fear for fear
11:44.8
BEC being Ced in content because I am I
11:48.3
am I serious in may Java I don't care K
11:52.2
Sino Basta if you testify forcely before
11:54.6
this committee I have to you content the
11:57.8
video of the press con of general tor
12:00.5
where he denies that there is an
12:02.3
excavation is ready right now and I'm
12:04.6
also holding a a star a g news online
12:08.3
article Ang title po hold dog at kjc
12:11.5
compound cops deny allegation This Is
12:13.8
September 4 and ang ang sabi dito sir
12:17.0
the alleged digging has reportedly
12:19.2
reached 8 meters and the proo 11 was
12:22.2
quick to deny the allegation quote yan
12:24.6
sa diing na yan allegation ni Attorney
12:26.6
toron yan Let Him prove it Pro 11 te
12:29.7
Director brigader general Nicolas Torres
12:32.0
said so He's lying blatantly Here inend
12:35.3
it Mr chair we wonder sir if would like
12:38.4
to continue because par nasa side tayo
12:41.1
sir As I have said this is my committee
12:45.3
I decide what to listen and What not to
12:48.5
listen okay No one is about the law Sabi
12:52.0
nga nila kung pulis ka nasa gobyerno na
12:54.5
may mataas na katungkulan o normal na
12:56.9
mamamayan you are not about the law and
12:59.2
yung unang tanong ko kanina yung end
13:01.0
game dito tatarin ko rin sa kjc dito
13:03.4
Anong end game ba rito Anong ine-expect
13:05.4
po natin that's also covered in the last
13:07.2
slides of my presentation sir that will
13:09.4
be covered The End game sir is really
13:11.6
you you can you can address the question
13:14.2
directly Pres We will not stop until Mr
13:18.0
Kiboy is arrested because we really to
13:20.1
turn our back against the Uh we to turn
13:22.8
our back against the helpless and
13:24.2
Voiceless victims of Mr k
13:29.5
you intend to stay there forever forever
13:33.8
hindi we have we have some
13:35.8
recommendations in my presentation so
13:37.7
that we can end this positively sir
13:40.4
Because remember that
13:43.1
Compound is not only used by Pastor k if
13:47.0
you there may mga estudyante diyan
13:50.2
nagaaral na hindi
13:52.3
nag-aaral May mga nakatira diyan na
13:55.7
hindi na nakatira pinalabas do sa kanong
13:57.8
tinirahan sir mer nagworship diyan na
14:01.0
Hindi na nakapag dahil nga sa presensya
14:03.1
nyo So you me to say you are willing to
14:07.8
sacrifice all this rights all this human
14:14.2
people because of your firm belief that
14:17.2
Pastor apo kibo is still there inside
14:20.4
that bunker talaga nwala ka na may
14:23.5
banger diyan sa ilalim Yes Sir Sir Uh if
14:26.9
I may sir Yeah we are this
14:31.0
in in serving this Wars because there
14:33.6
are multiple Wars for this person one of
14:35.8
the warrants came out on aug 8 2024 okay
14:39.8
to disc alam natin it has been it is
14:43.5
available in open
14:45.9
source ako mismo iing to p if Kung pwede
14:57.3
have Before I a lawmaker so obviously my
15:01.8
bias is on the side of the law she is
15:05.6
facing a one of the I am encouraging him
15:08.6
kung pwedeng i-submit niya sarili niya
15:11.2
sa korte pero again nasa kanya ang
15:15.9
desisyon na yan he has all his personal
15:18.0
reason kung bakit ayaw niya mag-render
15:23.3
Pero Talaga bang desidido kayo na
15:27.4
uubusin yung mga araw para
15:30.6
lang makita diyan k wala na kay makita
15:59.8
ah anong inexpect niyo
16:05.6
dito Gusto rin namin tahimik na
16:10.5
buhay airport yan talagang pinaka isa sa
16:15.6
unang daanan talaga ng mga bisita tag
16:19.1
Davao dumadaan dito sa Davao e mga taga
16:29.0
talaga ng Davao naging Centro na po ang
16:31.3
Davao City ng ah Mindanao So ano pong
16:34.4
end game na ine-expect niyo rito since n
16:36.2
rito ung commit para Sana matapos na po
16:39.0
itong Ah kaguluhang ito sir I me we
16:43.4
Follow the law sir um people versus rso
16:46.4
The supreme court said sir if you are
16:48.6
only armed with an arrest warrant that
16:50.5
cannot be used as a reason to conduct an
16:52.5
intrusive Search If there is a search
16:55.6
that has to be conducted in cases of
16:57.8
arrest warrants the law requires that
16:59.8
there must be a lawful arrest yet no and
17:03.0
this lawful arrest must pred the search
17:06.3
the process cannot be reversed what we
17:09.2
are seeing here is a Classic example of
17:12.4
police officers guided by a general
17:15.2
euron Who is conducting a an intrusive
17:19.6
Search without a search warrant and they
17:22.5
are using a single warrant of arrest or
17:25.1
Maybe he has many warrants of arrest
17:26.6
which he failed to show us as a
17:29.4
legal license to convert a property
17:32.5
owned by a third person third persons
17:34.8
third person No not even one of the
17:37.6
accused can we use this arrest warrant
17:40.4
to conduct omnibus search intrusive
17:43.2
search violate the freedom of Worship
17:45.6
which is one of the preferred rights
17:47.2
under the 1987 constitution Philippine
17:49.2
blings We teach that to our Uh students
17:52.1
and there must be clear and dangerous
17:54.0
tendency test there is dangerous
17:55.8
tendency test there is clear and present
17:57.4
danger yet they are prevent our clients
18:00.0
from using the same are we saying that
18:02.8
just because you have a warrant of
18:04.5
arrest You are now continuing your
18:06.6
search there and violate even the most
18:09.9
basic laws that in people versus rats
18:12.4
you can conduct a lawful search only if
18:15.3
there is already an arrest ang proseso
18:18.2
kasi hindi nababaliktad e hindi mo
18:20.6
gagamitin yung arrest warrant para
18:22.4
magand ka ng Uh intrusive search and
18:25.4
unending and continuing the bel belief
18:29.7
daw yung reasonable belief ang ang
18:33.4
contemplation ng Supreme Court diyan ay
18:35.8
may A1 ka information talaga na nandoon
18:38.2
sa isang particular area and defined and
18:41.6
you don't have to conduct a search
18:43.4
Because if you will use an arrest
18:47.3
As I have to to cut you short you need
18:51.7
not Explain that alam nila
18:54.8
yan alam nila yan ako magpaputol ako
19:12.5
advance lahat pagusapan
19:30.8
nobody is ordering to nobody ordering
20:00.6
k before i the answer can my
20:03.6
presentation so that I can
20:04.9
comprehensively address all the
20:17.6
presentation if The decision is within
20:22.6
level Regal director
20:33.1
if we have a government agency under the
20:53.5
this agency that does orders
21:00.9
we are therefore creating a
21:05.9
situation na masasabi there is
21:10.4
crisis and Are you
21:13.7
willing to place your
21:16.0
name as the very person that ca the
21:19.3
constitutional Crisis I think that is
21:22.4
applicable in this Cas if you will all
21:24.9
me before to answer my question to
21:27.8
answer question before that can you
21:31.4
to very liberal to you Thank you sir
21:34.4
very liberal To You even though you are
21:36.4
not so liberal in interpreting court
21:38.7
orders pasalamat kayo dahil ng court ofs
21:42.2
yung ung tpo Ging from rtc but I I will
21:47.8
listen to Mr chair Mr chair Yeah Mr
21:51.6
chair so the information that Attorney d
21:54.6
provided you what does that Say Mr chair
21:57.7
no ang What the intent of general tor is
22:00.7
to deceive the senators so that when you
22:03.2
went there this morning it's the place
22:05.6
was so different maybe maybe 75% of
22:11.0
so mago magp ito kung tayo naglokohan
22:16.4
din naglolokohan po naglokohan tayo
22:20.2
dito ganon ang gusto nila Mr Cher Pwede
22:23.6
ko bang paano lang pa-play yung video
22:26.0
para makita mo makilala mo kung sino
22:27.6
yung nasa harap mo na kumakausap sayo
22:30.4
SAO lang nagrereset pero sa mga simpleng
22:32.9
ordinaryong mamamayan na kanyang unang
22:35.5
mandato ay wala siyang karespe-respeto
22:42.1
video about saing
22:47.4
allegation Wala akong sinasabi m diyan
22:50.0
sa mga bagay na yan sapagkat yan ay
22:51.6
allegation nila it ang gusto nila sig
22:54.9
let it photos and
22:58.6
nagbigay ng photo pakita niya rin Alam
23:00.5
niya ang batas Paano diyan ilabas niung
23:02.5
taong nbigay big ni rin ng statement
23:04.5
kasi kaya k gawin yan sa loob ng
23:07.6
Photoshop sa loob ng dito Mr Cher
23:10.8
napakaliwanag ng pagmit niya sa inyo
23:13.3
Pero sa publiko wala siyang pakialam
23:16.1
wala siyang respeto sa Pilipino pwede
23:18.5
siyang magsinungaling ng
23:20.6
hayagan Excuse me Mr
23:23.0
ch did I understand it right that you
23:25.5
would cite him for contempt if you cau
23:32.0
before Mr ch Why with that video he said
23:35.8
here he he denied it here that there
23:41.9
video sinabi niya na wala pong video
23:44.3
wala pong PR na Ganon hindi siya nag
23:49.4
at can we Ask the
24:05.8
records about saing na yan
24:10.2
allegation that wala akong sinasabi muna
24:13.6
diyan sa mga bagay na yan sapagkat yan a
24:15.5
allegation nila let prove itan ang gusto
24:18.0
nila Sige let them prove it also may
24:20.0
photos and videos ilabas nila yung
24:22.4
nagbigay ng photo at pakita ni rin Alam
24:24.3
niya ang batas Paano diyan ilabas yung
24:26.3
taong nagbigay at bigay
24:28.9
statement kasi kaya gawin sa loob ng
24:30.8
Photoshop Dr I just would like to to
24:34.4
tell you frankly ha na if general TH is
24:37.7
lying before this commitment As I said
24:40.8
while ago I will not hesitate to S
24:43.4
content ha Uh but Please do not do not
24:51.8
Uh Hwag Hwag mong i-cite yung chair na
24:55.9
icem siya kasi magiging let me let me
25:00.0
decide let me decide as the Chairman of
25:02.6
this committee I know if he is lying or
25:05.1
not Yes Mr ch that's why pinapa ko
25:07.9
pinapa playback ko yung records para
25:11.8
natin Please do do not keep on urging me
25:15.9
to s yes Mr Okay thank you Thank you for
25:19.0
that I will not hit I will not hesitate
25:21.5
ah Pumasok sila nag-attempt nga sa
25:24.0
Cathedral pero hindi pinayagan Yan po
25:26.0
ang proof na may mga tirgas po sila Yan
25:28.5
po ang pictures po na may mga tirgas
25:30.2
silang dala-dala no
25:33.6
Kaya stop nga yung
25:37.1
video gas Pakibalik
25:42.6
ngayon gasgas sabi yung may canister yan
25:47.6
ah smoke grenade is different from tgas
25:51.2
yan ay smoke rade nakalagay
25:54.4
smoke it's not t gas Ah so smoke rade so
25:57.9
yan Siguro yung ah I think day 3 ng gabi
26:01.3
ah marami pong na-injure sa amin at ah
26:04.8
they had to use water kasi masyadong Ah
26:09.2
Ah siguro yan siguro yun kung hindi tas
26:12.4
yon kung kung yan particular na smoke
26:15.1
grenade iba ang ter gas Pero kung kayo'y
26:18.5
nahan sa mata niyo obviously that was
26:21.4
per gas but at this particular picture
26:24.0
does not defect does not defect Uh the
26:31.9
Mayan ng salita na ang ibig sabihin dito
26:34.9
ay Ang pagkakaisa
26:37.0
bunyog bunyog party list Halik ka na
26:40.6
Halik ka na bunyog party list ka
26:44.8
na halikan na halikan na buis ka na sa
26:49.5
susunod ang atin ng suportahan bunyog
26:52.5
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