???? "Binaliktad nila ang Katotohanan!" De Lima's Stand Against Duterte! ????
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gawa-gawa lang lahat yung mga naging
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akusasyon sa akin hindi lang yung mga
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nasa Bilibid kundi ito yung sa espinoza
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alleg illegal drug trade so natutuwa pa
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ako na kasi nga si si kel espenido nung
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sa senado ay talagang umiiwas siya lagi
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lang niyang sinasabi
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panginoon The truth will set you free
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maski nung Kinausap niya ako after the
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hearing Ganon din pero na-sense ko na
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kaagad na meron siyang mga mas alam pa
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So now he saying that na He never knew
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as being involved in in the Uh illegal
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drug trade kasi nung yung nakita daw
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niya ako non na-meet niya ako nonon
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nasbi niya yyung dati sa akin na dati
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pala na-meet niya ako when I was a chr
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chairperson That's all no and then So
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ngayon sinabi na niya na hindi niya ako
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talaga kilala na hindi ako involved sa
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illegal drugs sinabi rin niya na hindi
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niya talaga kilala si Ronnie Dian kasi
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yung tinuturo nila na tumanggap ng pera
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for for me so it's now it has been
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recanted by both kwin espinoza and also
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by Colonel espenido So lahat po ito
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unraveling of the truth lahat ito kasama
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sa vindication ko kasi ako naman po wala
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akong duda na wala akong kinalaman diyan
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inosente ako in all forms of illegal
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drug trade Whether it is with the bid o
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diyan sa carn espinoza alleged illegal
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drug trade wala akong kinalaman diyan
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kaya alam ko na kaagad na script lahat
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yon alam ko na kaagad na meron lang nag
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pwersa sa kanila para idawit ako just
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like yyung sa belid drug mga belied
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inmates Oh yes ginagawa po ginagawa na
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po ng mga abogado ko just like na yung
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pagpa-file ng mga sino talaga yung mga
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sino yung may kagagawan nung mga pags
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sinungaling din sa akin pag ah yung mga
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kasinungalingan nung mga naging
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Witnesses nila sa doon sa three drug
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cases ko yung mga believe in inmates at
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ito ngayon at least meron talaga na
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Witness or Witnesses direct knowledge
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yung pagpwersa sa kanila p pag Excuse me
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pag instruct sa kanila na idawit ninyo
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Si delima so Si Kin espinoza that's very
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much within his personal knowledge now
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his story is very credible because that
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is the truth na hindi talaga ako sangkot
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sa illegal drugs Parang
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nagbag parang nagbag ihit ng hangin dito
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sa house um How does it feel ma'am na
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finally may vindication na magandang
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maganda talagang pakiramdam ko diyan
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kasi narinig niyo naman Kanina do sa
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early part of my opening statement na
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sana noon pa yan na kasi noon ah ako
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lang and Anong ginawa binaliktad nila
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yung yung katotohanan ako ang tinuro
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nila because they really wanted to
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Silence me and to destroy my reputation
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and para siguro maging leksyon din sa
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iba lalo na yyung mga Politiko and And
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public officials na you better not say
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anything about the the drug war na
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nakatulad ni delima She was really that
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I was all against the killings I'm not
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campaign the anti-illegal drug campaign
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but I'm definitely against the EJ case
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so siguro yun ang leksyon na parang pina
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inar niya sa lahat kung Gayahin niyo rin
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sa delima susunod kayo kakasuhan kayo
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kung ano and then yung mga lumalabas
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ngayon Tapos yung ginamit lang yung ah
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war on drugs sa pagpapatay ng mga
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personalidad na hindi pa nga
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napapatunayan na sangkot sila yun na
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yung mga mayors na yan yung mga
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lumalabas ngayon na pinapatay din pala
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Simply because they are supposed to be
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part of that drug list na hindi naman
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natin alam kung ano yung naging vetting
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and validation ng drug list na yyan yung
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mga yung mga testimony rin ni former
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Iloilo City Mayor ah mabilog na
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na Tinakot din siya na gusto niyang
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ipaturo gustong ipaturo sa kanya yung
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ilan Pang mga personalidad na mga nasa
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oposisyon So this whole Jaguar is indeed
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fake Maam dapat sana kayo ni president
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Duterte sakali ngayon kung dumalo po
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siya pero hindi nga po siya natuloy
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sakali k nandito siya meron po ba kas
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sasabihin or mays ba kayo interesado rin
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ako kung ano talaga yung mga sasabihin
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niya ah Sana nga nandito siya para un
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tingnan natin kung ano yung naging
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reaction doun sa mga sinabi ko rin na
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kasi I was I was you know corroborate
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yung sinabi ni Colonel garma about this
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reward system and yung sinabi ni garma
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na talaga naman na itong war on drugs na
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yyung mga EJ case na iyan I patterned
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after the devo model that one I
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corroborated based on kung ano yung mga
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alam namin non nalaman namin nonon in
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the course of the chr investigation and
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also from the affidavits of Edgar
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matobato and Arturo lasas so vate lang y
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talaga it was based on the d model Ma'am
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Ma'am sabi po ma'am kasi nung mga ano
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mga critiko ninyo of course eh 90% ng
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mga nag-serve kasi they approve of the
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drug War e Kayo po ma'am you're one of
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the biggest Yun na nga yan ang hindi
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maganda yun ang nak ng mga critic yung
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mga sinasabi po ng mga prod 30 critic 30
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Nain kalaban kayo na parang He was he
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overwhelming approve po of the drug Okay
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Yun ang narrative nila Nakita naman
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natin yun I think Kinikilala ko yon na
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at the height of the war on drugs at the
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height of the killings Marami na
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pumalakpak sa kanya Marami na ang
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naniniwala na maganda iyon supposedly
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for peace and order pero hindi naman how
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can That be good for law and order kung
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may patayan That's
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lawlessness so narrative nila yyan eh
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parang binabaliktad na nga nila yung
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parang sinasabi nila I think sa Senate
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yung sinasabi nila ah senator Bato and
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senator and and bonggo na sabi nila is
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tingnan natin pakinggan natin yung mga
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ah magsasabi na ah tumahimik sa
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komunidad nila wala ng mga sira ulo
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diyan because of the war on drugs yun
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ang narrative nila Parang dde nila they
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wanted to show the killing is is all
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right when it is not Hindi yun ang issue
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e yung pagpatay ang issue so hindi na
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nakakagulat yon na Ganon nga ako kaya
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ako linakasan ko lang yung loob ko na in
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spite of the fact na nakikita ko mataas
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yyung approval nung war on drugs I I had
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to do something about it kasi nga
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maraming mga pinatay ma sa inyo pong
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ah ginagawa po yan ng mga abogado ko at
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at Ah yung sa mga tungkol doun sa mga
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so against me we are of course looking
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at Mr Duterte because definitely Siya
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naman talaga ang may kagagawa niyan
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siyaang nag-utos kina former justice
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secretary agire doon sa mga pag-file ng
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mga fabricated cases na iyan and Inaalam
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pa namin kung sino pa yyung mga iba yung
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mga handlers nung mga nagac doon sa mga
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believed inmates para implicating him sa
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pagco sa kanya sa pagturo sa akin This
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is within his personal knowledge so Mas
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madali niyang i-prove Yan na ah at pero
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ang ang ano ko diyan is it's not only at
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the level of senator Bato ah sigurado
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ako na si Presidente rin si dating
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presidente Duterte rin ang may utos k
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senator Bato then PNP Chief naidiin ako
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diyan sa kwin espinoza illegal drug
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trade Kasi nakar sabi niya parang bahala
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na raw k Anong gagamitin pinag-aaralan
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po yan ng aming mga abogado kasi he
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would be really the direct Witness on
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that siyang magiging state Witness pero
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i-evaluate pa po lahat yyan ma What can
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you say po na ang Senate mag hearing din
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po ng war on drugs Tingan natin kung
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anong pinaka Direction nila ang worry ko
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nga diyan That's why I'm still pushing
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for truth Commission in spite of the you
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know great efforts of Quad na hindi ko
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actually h I didn't I didn't expect na
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ganyan ang magiging takbo sa Quad comom
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na dumami Dumadami ang lumalabas na mga
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Uh now we have a Senate which will also
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say or the Senate magkakaroon ng sapat
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na panahon na tingnan lahat yan kasi
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complexities of the drug war hindi lang
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yung mga tungkol sa pagpatay yung yung
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lahat ng na mga pwedeng tingnan and and
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you know the core mandate of Congress is
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law making pass a passage of
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ung legislation process so I don't kasi
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paano iyan Baka mapabayaan na yyung mga
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ibang trabaho nila and mas maganda lalo
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na kasi there's this possibility also
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and then respected people sa law
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enforcement sector etc so Yan po ang
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aking pananaw diyan Siguro mas maganda
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later kung meron pa rin truth Commission
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na-invite ho ba kayo today or nagol k No
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they invited me I receiv I received a
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Uh Yeah why I don't have any reason not
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notta coming here kungting
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si Presidente It depends If the if the
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committee again invites me kung
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sakaling dumating na either in the next
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next hearing or whatever subsequent
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Hearings kung iimbitahan po ako pupunta
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Mers Okay Hindi naman siguro lahat sila
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ay kasama doun sa committee naon
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committee on justice and human rights
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Kaya nga sinabi ko kanina hindi ko
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mapigil ang sinabi ko na hindi naman
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talaga yung pinak pakay nung inquiry na
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yon in 2016 yung belid drug trade Ako
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naman talaga ang pinaka Target and I
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suppose they realized that already
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whoever iyung mga nag-participate talaga
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doon sa vilification sa akin sa
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pangbabastos sa akin you all saw that ay
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sana sana naiisip na nila yan Sana ay ah
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nauusog na rin sila ng kanilang
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konsyensya na mali yung ginawa nila
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Ma'am paano po ma'am yung mga
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sinam ako ako na Ma'am sorry good
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afternoon lanesca po from J news online
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Ma'am How do you feel returning here as
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a Resource person when you know just
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recent past you have been subjected by
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the same Uh the same institution to
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unflattering to say the least yyung
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inquiry sa inyo in the past and now
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parang they treat you as a valuable
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Resource person So how do you feel about
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the turn of events
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Well it's really very relieving for me
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and it's very you know I feel good about
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it I feel great about it kasi dati
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talagang masakit yon para sa akin na
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ganon ang ginawa nung iba na mga
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miyembro ng commitee na iyon na talagang
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Pinakialaman yung personal life ko
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sinira at hustisya yung libo-libong
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biktima ng war on drugs I will offer
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always myself to any forum including the
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house of of representatives at pang
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pagrespeto na rin ng house of
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representatives Hindi na po ako
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incumbent senator ngayon dati I could
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always I would always I can always cite
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yung parliamentary inter parliamentary
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courtesy that they cannot compel me to
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attend the Hearings here pero ngayon so
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This is not about that what what
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political considerations are they
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talking about when I was right there as
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one of the earliest victims
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of kasi EJ case nga yung karamihan ng
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ano ako inano nila yung aking reputation
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sa mga gawa-gawa mga kasinungalingan so
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don't you think anyone else would would
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do the same to really search more for
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truth and demand for accountability sa
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ginawa sa akin hindi basta-basta Iyung
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ginawa sa akin in fact that was an
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unprecedented case of
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persecution are you also willing to
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personally assist po yung pamilya ng mga
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ag G victims na walang papuntahan ngayon
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or nahihirapang magreklamo Oh yes kasi
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Sometimes I would also interact with the
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certain NGOs handling the Uh this ejk
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Families Uh assisting this ejk Families
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Are you ready to face the
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President well if i me i invite you to
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the next hearing Yes ah Hinihintay ko
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siya ngayon eh h did not so that's why
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my message is sana magpagaling na siya
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para may sapat na Lakas na harap
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pin ang ang ah lahat ng mga binabato sa
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kanya So why should I be afraid of him
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I'm never afraid of him I've proven that
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I'm beyond Uh his I'm beyond being
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threatened by him kung makakausad nio
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Face to Face Anong inaasah nating
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mangagaling Aminin mo na bangong Duterte
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amilin mo yung kasalanan mo saakin na
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pinag-initan niyo na lang ako inimbento
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niyo yung mga kaso against me Aminin mo
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na rin na ikaw talaga ang pinaka ano ng
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pinaka involved bilang mastermind
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nag-utos nag induce nakikita natin yyan
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lumalabas na iyan lahat ngayon yyung
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tagal-tagal na na umaasa o humihingi ng
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hustisya thank you Thank you than thank