Duterte vs. Luistro | Lawyer vs. Lawyer on Extra Judicial Confession!
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Mr President Good
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afternoon Good afternoon Mr
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President First of all I wish to
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courage in taking full
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responsibility full legal
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responsibility to all the victims of war
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drugs both legal and illegal as you have
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President Hindi ko na kontrolado kasi
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Ma'am and Mr President I wish to
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humble opinion that one will not
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responsibility unless there is no
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willingness as well To
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admit being behind all the killing
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incidents that transpired during the war
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on drugs it is therefore the humble
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submission of this representation Mr
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chair that with that statement coming
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from the former President he
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acknowledges that all the killing
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incidents during the war on drugs
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spring from his order to kill drug
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personalities that is a manifestation Mr
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chair Mr chair I understand that the
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Resource speaker the former president is
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President May I request that you educate
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the Filipino people and I am certain
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that you understand what conspiracy
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about please educate us Mr
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Uh I may have some lapses
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already but Uh I will give you the
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definition of Uh the conspiracy to
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commit a crime when two or more persons
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decide discuss to commit a crime and
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it more or less ang takbo ngo Thank you
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Mr President and you will agree with me
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Mr President that under the conspiracy
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theory Mayon tlong klase ng
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principal one is principal by
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inducement two is principal by
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indispensable cooperation
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and three principal by direct
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participation being a long time precut
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Mr President Can you please Enlighten us
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this well Uh one is
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be inducement could
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man to kill her husband so that they can
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live forever happily ever
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after or a group of persons
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sindikato lahat What is illegal gambling
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the they are the conspirators of crime
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So you have explained Mr President
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principal by inducement it could be
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money It Could Be An order a person who
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have influence over
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another How about principle by direct
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participation Mr President
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you agree with one another
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thank you And how about princip by
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cooperation Well in the sense that for
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example If there is no way of travelling
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from one place to another and you are
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the only person who can provide the
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transportation a vehicle and That be in
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cooperation without the vehicle you
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cann Uh commit the Crime Thank you Mr
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President for enlightening us going back
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to your statement that you are taking
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full legal responsibility to all the
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victims of War on drugs both legal and
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illegal it is my humble submission Mr
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chair that the former
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considered liable for all this crimes
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under the theory of
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conspiracy by being a principle by
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UST I wish to manifest Mr chair that
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order without the
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reward this police
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operatives should not have resulted to
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killing a huge number of victims of War
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drugs back to disagree with your premis
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m I understand Mr President but that is
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a manifestation Yes Uh But you know is
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supposed to do his Duty he has he goes
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to school for two years He is receive
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instructions to how to go about his
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Duty and we have to give the presumption
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regularity That's a principle Uh
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law Thank you Mr President ag every time
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na may ginawa k in your favor is the
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principle of regularity presumption of
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regularity of performance of official
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Duty Mr President Thank you for your
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President I wish to ask with all the
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respect considering your statement of
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taking full legal
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responsibility both to legal and illegal
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ofs to an extra judicial confession of
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guil well in s yes
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wala are you saying Yes Mr President Yes
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because I order the campaign against the
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ginawa nila whether illegal or not it
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was ako ang nag-utos in that sense I
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take that responsibility of their
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actions Wala akong magawa e Commander
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ako puntahan ninyo
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yan just like a Commander a military
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utusan mo pag may nangyari diyan
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magkaso whether right or wrong
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EO talaga yan kung hindi ka Nam bobo na
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Mayor hindi mo iwanan yung tao na
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unless yung pumunta doon inutusan mo
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mag-operate ng illegal gambling or mga
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nagrap kung anong ginagawa ng
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kabalastugan ako na mismo ang papatay h
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na kailangan ng hintayin mo pa Mr
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President earlier you
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conform to my statement that I can
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equate your statement of taking full
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Regal responsibility as an extra
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judicial confession of guilt you said
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yes to that yeah No I'm just reiterating
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the question Mr President it's not It's
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not about guilt or a wrong what I'm
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saying is is that yung lahat ng inutusan
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ko yung war against
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drug yung isang platoon diyan o isang
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batalon kung ano yung ginagawa
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nila I take full responsibility for
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that Mr President you are surrounded by
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I Believe for lawyers Hindi ko na
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kailangan Ma'am because you are laer I
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can take of myself I can take care of
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myself and of course you understand the
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elements of an extrajudicial confession
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Yes you confirm that you are of sound
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mind not only that body Yes as well you
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confirm that your statement is
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yes and of course you confirm that you
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understand the consequences of your
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itte I understand Mr
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we it extra judal conf it is not a
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confession It is a statement coming from
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the mouth of a mayor or a President at
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that time it is not a confession you
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characterizing mali Maam the only do not
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characterize that
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Only One That is missing among elements
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is that it should be in
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writing and my question will be will you
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be willing to translate into writing the
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statement that you earlier
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said h na nga ako marunong yung pirma ko
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non hindi na nga pirma ko ngayon e but
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Of course you have a lawyers to help and
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assist you prepare this written document
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Hindi ko na kailangan yan bait ko
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documented by the records here magtanong
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na kayo ng magtanong Ano anong gusto
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criminal Mr President I wish to proceed
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to the to my Next question Do you know
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range Do you know alamy po laod firing
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so hindi hindi Do you
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know nalalaman niyo po ba kung ano o
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Saan yyung laod firing
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range Doon ako nagpa-practice magbaril
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para pumatay ng tao Thank
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you nagpa-practice po kayong bumar para
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pumatay ng tao Oo and Alam din po ba
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laod hindi ko nyo
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R but at least you are aware that la
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firing range is situated in the la qu
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within the premises and
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comp of there is aing rent
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laod yes I think so Who is Ben laod
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policeman he's a policeman he owns the
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land he owns The land where the firing
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range is located and Do you remember Mr
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President that the
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chr during the time of the former
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Chairman lila de Lima investigated and
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inspected this la qu Where they were
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able to discover human
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bones are you aware of
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that who investigated panahon po ni
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Chairman laya delima sa Commission on
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Human Rights sorry I do not know
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nag-imbestiga po ang chr
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Tungol sa extrajudicial killing kung
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saan nakadiskubre po ang taga chr na mga
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buto ng katawan ng tao Kayo po ba ay
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dito I am aware of only one
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ni sino yung sinabi
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mo B our forward share
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woman there hindi isa
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and you are aware also
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that the former DOJ secretary vitaliano
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aguire represented Ben laud in the
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investigation of the extra juding case
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killing What do I know about the
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investigation or if you are aware Mr
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are you associated Of course you are
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associated to vitaliano agire as a
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contemporary And during your time you
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appointed him even as the DOJ secretary
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Yes bright during the time Mr President
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you were the mayor
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secretary hindi ako Mayor lang ako po So
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it has to be let me refr My question Mr
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President else's job not mine during the
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time when this extrajudicial killings
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happened you were the mayor Tama po ba
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ion well not only during my time as
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Uh was there any point in time Mr
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President na pinaimbestigahan niyo po
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mga ito ng tao na nakita sa laud
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quar dala-dala nga ni sino yun si hindi
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yung nag-imbestiga doon the chr Mr
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President o si chr Kayo po Baay nagpa
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imbestiga even during your time as Mayor
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or during your time as President
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pinaimbestigahan niyo po ba itong mga
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buto na nakita sa laod
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quari bakit mag-imbestiga ng mga buto
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diyan na maraming buto ng tao na So you
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did not initiate any investigation of
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course Mr President I will proceed to
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question on December 31
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2004 nag-conduct po ng raid ang pidea 11
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headed by superintendent wilkins
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Villanueva joined by some operatives of
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pidea Manila National
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headquarter anim po
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naay but in add to this
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Chinese certain SPO4
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Allan along with 10 other
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Companion bas on the affidavit of Mr
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President you ill
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of Mr Allan C along with the 10 other
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companions that is not true that is a
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police hindi ko trabah magpatay Maam
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there are two important observations in
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his affidavit Mr President ang sabi po
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niya dito si Alan C ay nag-offer ng 200
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million for the release of the two
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chemist and another 100 million for the
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remaining eight personal is but when he
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tried to seek your permission you
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refused and you even said madami kayong
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funds totoo yan kung bravery
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my are you confirming Mr President that
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time lascas and Sunny Buenaventura
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sought your permission whether to
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release Alan C and the 10 others in
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exchange of the 200 million plus 100
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million masyadong malaking pera yan man
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totoo yan you are denying it Mr
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course but do you confirm that when
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you refuse this offer you even told
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Buenaventura and Arturo las canas that
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you have ample Intel Fund
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So you don't need bribes if you call it
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bribe I do not remember making a
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statement like that but money for
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operations against crime malaki ang
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funding ng Davao City another important
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observation Mr President this 11
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personalities were asked as to the
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whereabouts of their passport Alan C
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said that passport was taken the
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operatives while the 10 others ang sabi
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po nila hawak ng employer nila and the
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employer was named as Michael young What
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can you say about
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this nothing to do with it Wala akong
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diyan hindi ako nakikialam ng
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mga Mr President to conclude the
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question about this dumoy raid This Is
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The Raid of the pidea which happened in
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Davao shabu laboratory on December 31
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2004 where six Chinese personalities
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were killed during the raid and the 11
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others were brought to laod quarry Where
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they were summarily executed and buried
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upon your order according to the
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testimony of Arturo lascas do not
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lascas let me proceed to the lang niyan
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President in 1993 Mr President
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binomba po itong St Peter's Cathedral in
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Theo city where seven died naalala niyo
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according point of
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Order if Attorney Delgra is coaching the
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President because she has been
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inne del pleas from coaching the
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president is able to answer All These
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questions being asking me
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and only limited to advising your client
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with his rights nothing more nothing
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less I hope you Follow the rule Attorney
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Delgra Please proceed he does not have
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to coach me I know how to
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answer Mr chair 1993 binomba po on St
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Peter's cathedral davo city where seven
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naalala niyo po ba ito Mr
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President Yung simbahan Ma'am Opo St
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Peter's Cathedral in davo city at sang
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ayon po kay Arturo las canas kayo
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ay galit na galit sa pangyayaring ito
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Sinong hindi magalit ma'am at dahil po
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sa inyong mahigpit na galit ay inorderan
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niyo po itong sina lascas na bombahin
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ang mga mosque Kasama po
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angara mosk at borean mosk What can you
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say about this cra do you know
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that my mother is a
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Muslim that's an idiot statement In
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other words you are denying of
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course Mr President let me proceed to
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broadcaster He is a
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broadcaster who used to criticize
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you during his programs Tama po ba
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trah and according to the testimony
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lasas you ordered the killing of Jun
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pala niwala kay kanya lahat naang
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participation ng crime niya
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kanya There's a pattern you know look at
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the pattern of the crimes kanya lahat ng
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ano do you believe that as a
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I kanina po Mr President I started my
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interpellation with acknowledging your
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courage in taking full legal
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responsibility to all the victims of War
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on drugs and you said both legal and
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illegal the reasons why I ask about laud
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quari where human bones were found the
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reason why I ask about the dumoy raid
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where 11 Chinese personalities were
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summarily brought and killed to laud
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quari the reason about why I asked about
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the m bombing and the killing of Jun
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substantiate the courage that I
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saw on you when you initially Expressed
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taking full legal
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responsibility to all the victims of war
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and drugs both legal and illegal
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according to you You are
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subst yes Mr President Where your
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proof Mr President I'm anchoring my
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questions about the separate incidents
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from your initial statement that you are
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taking full legal responsibility to all
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the victims of War on drugs you said
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both legal and illegal Yes Mr President
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You are a long time prosecutor
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correct and of course it is very
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fundamental upon us all lawyers the
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requirements of Jew process we are
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zeroing in on the particular individual
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now Jew process is the law which hears
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condemns due process is the law which
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requires notice and hearing if you say
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so Mr President I hope that we will be
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reminded That by Jew process the end
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does not justify the
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means kanina po tinanong din po kayo ni
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Brosas about the the number of the
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victims of war and drugs tinanong po
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kayo about statistics and you lamented
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na hindi niyo po alam or dala Iyung
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records now I want to share to the
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public the statistics of the victims of
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are Mr President This is from
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pidea I think this is a consolidated
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effort of karapat
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global Witness National union of
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journalist of the Philippines the
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rappler and the Philippine drug and
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6252 individuals in police anti-drug
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operations as of may
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2022 27,000 to 30,000 individuals
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including those killed vigilant
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activist human rights defenders
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grassroot organizers as of December
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2021 land and environment defenders as
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166 journalist media workers as of April
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lawyers prosecutors as of December
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victims and mayors Vice mayors as of
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2021 28 victims Mr
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President Mr President my question
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is when you implement war on
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drugs did you strictly comply with the
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requirement of je process
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Mr chair I will wrap up Thank you Mr
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President Mr chair it is my humble
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submission that contrary to the answer
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of the former President I humbly believe
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that the former President and his war on
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drugs never complied with the
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requirements of je
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process the Statistics show Mr President
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the huge number of victims of War on
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drugs if my memory serves me right
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during the time of Aquino administration
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there like around 200 And during the
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present administration there around like
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200 victims as well of War on
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drugs given this statistics Mr chair
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This is almost or around 31,000 victims
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of War on drugs if indeed they follow
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the requirement of
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process Wala po dapat ganito karaming
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patay at ang dapat maraming kaso na
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court I hope all of us will be
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reminded by the fundamental law that no
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person should be deprived of
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life Liberty and property without DU
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law by Mr President own admission of his
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accountability both to legal and illegal
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actions of the police it is the humble
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submission of this representation Mr
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chair that the Quad comom is ready to
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recommendation for the filing of the
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necessary action in court that is a
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violation of the law ra
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9851 act defining and penalizing crimes
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against international humanitarian law
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or the very least the murder cases as
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defined under the revis pedal code to
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finally conclude Mr chair last series of
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questions to Mr President again to
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substantiate the courage that he was
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able to show during the initial part of
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this hearing Mr President in the past
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may tatlo pong Chinese drug Lords na
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napatay sa Davao Penal colony Are you
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willing to take accountability and
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responsibility also for
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this Wala na ako niyan
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Maynila So you saying No well kung gusto
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isal idagdag mo na okay lang how about
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the death of general Barayuga the pscs
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secretary Are you willing to take full
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legal responsibility for this No I do
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not I do not kill generals The Death of
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mayor aldong Parohinog and the 15 others
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in asam city are you taking full
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responsibility on this hindi h ako
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nagpapatay ng mga Mayor Ma'am The Death
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of mayor espenosa of Albuera le Leyte
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are you taking full responsibility on
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this Ma'am that is my birthplace The
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Death of Tony Halili in tanawan city
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malayo yan siya sa akin Ma'am The Death
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of mayor Perez of Los
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Baños lalo na ibalik ko po doun sa una
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niyong sinabi if you are denying all
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this Alin po Iyung tinutukoy niyo when
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you said you are taking full legal
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responsibility to all the victims of war
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and drugs both legal and illegal Yes
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kasi order ko kasi Iyung that was my a
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campaign against drugs na yung Alam mo
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maraming istasyon Maraming
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doon hindi ka maghugas ng
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kamay dapat sabihin mo akin Dian kasi of
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sila now if there is an appropriate
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court wala Nam matagal na yanung sabi
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extrajudicial extrajudicial
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killing I am challenging anybody or
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everybody who makes the
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accusation Whether it is really true or
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not may be true f
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admit na totoo yan You have to go to
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will make the admission there
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again are you saying Mr President that
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when we you go to court you're willing
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to admit also your accountability for
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all the debs during the war on
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drugs of course may abogado man ako Maam
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kung anong sabiin ng abogado kod
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ako i thing that you said before the
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Quad can be reduced in writing so that
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truly we can believe that you're taking
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full legal responsibility to all the
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victims of War on drugs both legal and
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illegal because as lawyers We believe
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that by extrajudicial confession we have
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to put that in writing Mr President
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totoo Ian I order the campaign against
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drugs hindi ako mag It's a policy of
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government or of the President hindi ako
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maghugas ng kamay hindi ako magsabi
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hindi hindi kasi yung
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department Mr President last question If
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one of these days the icc will come will
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you voluntarily submit yourself Sipain
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Maam but you said a while ago that if
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somebody will sponsor your fair to the
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icc you will voluntarily submit yourself
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to their investigation and
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Yes pero kung sila magta dito
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sipain but will you confirm that you
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willing to submit voluntarily yourself
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sipain I Have Nothing further Mr chair
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Thank you Mr President Thank you
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Congresswoman luistro next to
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interpellate with all respect
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ch bombing of Davao City is known to me
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personally because at that time I was
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the Chairman of the human rights
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committee of point of Order Mr chair uh
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what is the point of Order Congressman
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na akop Uh we do not know the
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personality of Attorney bello and he has
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not been invited as a Resource person
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and therefore has no right to speak
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before this commit i agree I I have
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no contradiction to the manifestation of
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the honorable ch Congressman ako but I
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just want to inform this body of what
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the easter bombing is all about because
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the the honorable Congressman list
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mention about it and she insinuated that
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as a result of the Sunday
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bombing former President Duterte caused
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the bombing of Muslim m which is not
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true because at that time your
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honor He was just
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of Davao City Okay salamat po I know
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that your honor because I was the one
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who investigated this incident upon the
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direction of the integrated bar of the
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philippines so for the record
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Congressman Luis ra Mayor Duterte or
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President Duterte was a fiscal at the
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time of the duming of the San Pedro
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cathedral Okay than you Thank you
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Attorney B your manifestation is noted
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much so I have a 19 second
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video of the interview of the former
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President about the dumoy bombing if
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this representation may be allowed to I
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think this is 19 no 19 seconds Mr
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seconds Okay please secretariat kindly
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play before that like to acknowledge the
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presence of Vice President sar Duterte
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secretariat Can you please play the
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video may I also remind the our lawyer
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friends of the former President to
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please did because I had to do
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talaga Sir President Mr chair I did it
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because I had to do
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it that's it I reiterate this statement
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the former President said that he
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reiterates the statement He made in that
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video with that Mr ch then I conclude
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this interpellation than you con
