Villar vs. Tulfo’s Fiery Interrogation on Environmental Violations!
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board Palawan council for sustainable
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development staff and budgetary support
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to government corporations Metropolitan
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Manila Metropolitan waterworks and cage
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system regulatory office and the local
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water utilities Administration and
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recognize the sponsor and chairperson of
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the subcommittee b of the committee on
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Finance senator C Villar for her opening
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statement and later to interpolate
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senator raffi Tulfo I
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any objection hearing none the motion of
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the majority leader is carried we
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recognize the distinguished sponsor of
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the measure senator Cynthia Villar for
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her opening statement and followed by
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senator Raffy Tulfo to ask his
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ah Mr President dear colleagues at this
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juncture I'm ready to defend the
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proposed 2025 budget of the Department
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of environment and resources and it's
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attach agency the Department contingent
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led by secretary Tony Saga is here with
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us in the plenary based on the committee
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report of our committee on Finance the
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total proposed 2025 new appropriations
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for DNR and attach agencies amount to 26
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26,000 allocated as follows DNR osec
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643 n9 Yeah environmental management
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555 mines and geos geosciences Bureau
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54,000 National Water Resources Board
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877 Palawan council for sustainable
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development 117 mil
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and the government operations attached
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29 550,000 the mw is
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53,000 for a total of
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26,000 we are hopeful that the proposed
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budget once approved will be efficiently
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towards the conservation management
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development and proper use of the
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country's environment and natural
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resources which constitute the primary
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responsibility of DNR and to fulfill the
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constitutional Duty of the state to
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protect and act advance the right of the
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people to a balance and helpful
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ecology Thank you very
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much Ito ba tanong ni masungit
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ano thank you Thank
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you Asan yung laksang mining Ito lang
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yung mining ano lang loss
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e Is that it Uh distinguished
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it We can't hear you Uh we recognize the
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Uh distinguished gentleman from the
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great province of Isabel and Davao
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senator raffi Tulfo for his
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questions Thank you Mr President Thank
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you madam sponsor before my
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interpellation Please
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dito po sa slides napakita ko and there
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sponsor Sino po yung sa picture dalawa
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ng binilugan By the way the picture is
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courtesy of philippin star paki-explain
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lang po kung sino po yung dalawang
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nabilan doon sa picture at Kasama po sa
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picture taking na yan yung
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secretary secretary
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Loyzaga pwede ba paki zooom maybe
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secretary luisaga could identify those
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two people na nakasama sa picture na na
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yan pwede pang paki zooom ng
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konti Ayon medyo Maliwanag na isang girl
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guy Hindi no both Sorry both both female
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Sorry both female Excuse
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female This is during the launching
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of Project transform
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Pwede bang paki po madam sponsor kung
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sino po yung dalawa sa picture na
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This was an event in
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Rizal si governor inal
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they are stakeholders Uh operating in
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Rizal and Uh They were invited by the
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governor of Rizal to do Uh do discuss a
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joint project with all the stakeholders
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joint projects can the good sponsor Tell
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us exactly um who this two people are
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their names and then what the who they
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represent they are and what are what are
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the kind of business that they do that
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own Uh they cannot recognize the other
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one but the one is a quarry operator
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quarry operator Thank you and the other
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one is they do not know him Okay well
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I'll identify the second one estel Mary
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rebancos an officer of Montalban
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aggregates producers Association so
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exactly in 2022 DNR ordered the
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suspension of the cing permits of the
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large scale companies allegedly
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encroaching on the masungi reserve in
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Ral including the rapid City realty and
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Development Corporation kong limestone
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incorporated and quarry rock group
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incorporated owned by
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Angelita who happens to be in the
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picture sinuspindi po ng
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DNR ang quing permit ng mga ito nito and
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yet inimbitahan sila diyan sa project
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transform so out of delikadesa Bakit po
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nandiyan Ba't sila naimbitahan As I
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mention They were invited by the
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governor of Rizal multi Uh stakeholders
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Rizal hindi ang nag-imbita sa kanil
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Yes di po ba Ah dapat bilang secretary
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ng DNR tinatanong niya karapatan niya
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itanong kung sino-sino ang magdadala sa
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isang pagtitipon but they they cancel
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cancel inside that's that's a DNR event
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DNR must have the call kung sino
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imbitahan at sinong hindi hindi naman
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event yan ni Governor E event po yan ng
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DNR so ang DNR dapat ang gumagawa ng
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guest list Hindi po si governor kahit na
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halimbawa inimbitahan ni Governor Pero
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pwede namang tablahin ni DNR secretary
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sabihin I don't want that that two two
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persons invited because may mga problema
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sila nasuspende namin yung kanilang mga
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permits and then I don't want to be
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mixed with those two individuals rapid
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City Uh rapid City company inside the
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reserve was cancelled in
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2023 because it's inside the protected
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area Italy Who is operating Outside is
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still operating yun nga po madam sponsor
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President nagkaroon ng event ang
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DNR now Syempre ang d may control doon
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sa guest list doon sa mga taong
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imbitahan nila o hindi Okay sinasabi ng
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DNR those two people were invited by the
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governor per by the governor of Rizal
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exactly pero sila pa rin may control
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kung sino ang papupuntahin nila o hindi
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regardless invited ni Governor because
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that's an event of the DNR not the
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That's not an event Uh my dear senator
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when Uh the governor is inviting people
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Uh the DNR cannot stop the govern No but
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that's the reality of the Philippines
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me if I am in Las Piñas and the mayor of
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Las Piñas will invite people I cannot
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say that uh look I don't like this
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people you don't do that no ma'am kasi
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kung ako po ang nasa sitwasyon diyan at
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ako po ang secretary ng DNR Ako po ang
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may call kung sino yung mga guest na
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papasok pwede ko pong harangin yung mga
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taong ayaw kong papasukin regardless
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kung ay kasama ni Governor Siguro naman
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may mga pa siya o EA na magsasabi sa
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kanya sorry po go Hwag muna natin siya
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isama kasi may problema po yan the
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governor cannot do that well I thought I
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mean I'm a politician you don't do that
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when you're government Well I'm also a
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politician but but I have the right
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What's What's good is that the rapid
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cancelled because it's inside a
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protected area I know lital was not
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canceled Because it's operating outside
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the protected area Madam sponsor Mr
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ko at sasabhin kong dahilan kung bakit
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ko pinakita yung picture na yan
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mm nagkaroon ng event ang
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DNR project transform now Before I
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proceed nandiyan ho ba si
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hinares Nandiyan po siya okay
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exactly so bitbit ni Governor
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pero if i were the
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secretary Meron naman sigurong karapatan
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goob Pwede ba huwag mo muna nating isama
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yung dalawa magkakaroon tayo ng picture
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taking at baka magkakaroon ng kulay out
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of delikadesa kasi may problema yan Ayaw
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makahalalit to Siguro naman si governor
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magsasabi of course
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kasi event ito gagalangin ko request mo
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i don't think the govern said no Hindi
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pwede bisita ko to eh i don't think the
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governor will say
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that don't think the governor will say
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that but in his mind he cannot say like
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if you're a constituent in the province
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you cannot say it directly to your
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constituent Oo kahit na gusto niyang
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sabihin hindi niya means the governor
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has a on environmental regulations
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necessarily therefore meron kayong may
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karapatan ng DNR na tumangi kung sino
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yung mga bisitang ayaw papasukin diyan
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sa event nila because that was an a d
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event now sasabihin k reason kung bakit
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is set to cancel The Contract of masi
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masungi reserve Foundation Incorporated
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watershed they might have the right to
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do So legally but morally no some people
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say that they have the legal right to do
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it but it is not in accordance to good
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practice sisibakin niyo yung masungi and
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then papasok project transform na kasama
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diyan ay itong dalawang ah
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mga grupo na sinuspende ang permit ng
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DNR at hindi man lang inimbitahan yung
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mga taga masong E sa Gathering na yan no
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lital is operating under outside masungi
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Kaya nga po the other one lang is
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operated operating inside masungi and
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their their permit was cancelled Yes
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madam sponsor Mr President meron ho bang
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invited diyan ang taga
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meron k may invited daw doon taga
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masungi they have to invited Ma'am but
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bukod sa hindi invited yung masungi wala
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rin pong representative na indigenous
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tribe Leaders and watershed NGOs They
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said that this as well
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invited ang imbitado lamang yung
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dalawang personality na binanggit ko na
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Meron pong problema sa DNR mismong DNR
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na nag-cancel ng kanang permit in 2022
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ah This is a transdisciplinary approach
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towards natural reserves conservation
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and resilience through
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multi-stakeholder
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collaboration so nag-invite po si d sa
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masungi na taga masungi hindi nagpunta
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pero yung IP may nagpunta no They were
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not invited Madam sponsor now you did
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disciplinary so and so so dinisiplina
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itong dalawa at inimbita matapos sila
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Kung if they were disciplined then they
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should not be there in the first place
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there bakit po hindi mas no masungi
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invited not even the indigenous tribe
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leaders maging po yung mga watershed
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NGOs ang ininvite lang yung mga
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nasuspende o sinuspende ng
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DNR nainvite sinuspende ang M
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permit dahil sa quy
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ah ang ito lahat nainvite lahat po yan
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they have a list of those invited and
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one of them is the indigenous people
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represent in tanay riz Saan po diyan at
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anong pangalan po ng mga indigenous
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representatives samp Can you give me the
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names Madam sponsor Mr
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President they will give the attendance
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record to you the list of the the
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attendance record to you you will you
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will be furnished kasi nga po madam
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spons Mr President sana Nam man lang out
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of courtesy and respect sa masungi they
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should have been invited kasi nga po
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yung masungi Ge reserve napakaraming
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Awards po Natanggap iyan since 2016
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model for balance man nature interaction
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world conservation Congress 2016 2018
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special commendations Pathfinder award
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conservation financing and resourcing
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2020 top five finalist winwin gothenburg
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sustainability youth award 2021 winner
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Val FS 2021 changing your mind travel
18:11.0
Awards in Hollywood issue first place
18:13.0
water change maker Awards 2021 global
18:15.6
water partnership Warriors of the year
18:17.7
Esquire man of at his best 2021 heroes
18:23.2
Mavericks 2022 United Nations
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sustainable sustainable development
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goals nak award Forbes 30 under 30 Asia
18:32.7
2022 winner international Union for
18:34.9
conservation of nature world Commission
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on protected areas 2022 international
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Ranger Awards winner sustainability
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initiative award bed bet Asia Awards
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2022 2024 Asia Pacific social innovation
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partnership award held on May 4 2024 in
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Taiwan impeccable record Meron po Ong
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mas su and yet ang DNR is set to cancel
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the contract like I said they might have
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the legal right to do
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So but hindi man lang nila kinonsider
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itong Awards na natanggap Na masungi
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therefore They're more than
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na But there It's the the land is a
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protected area owned by the government
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it cannot be given to any private entity
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how How about a project transform would
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it project transform would benefit from
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the knowledge and experience of masungi
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already has yeah kungo but they
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can property I know po madam sponsor Mr
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President kasi yung
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masungi Pwede pong magamit ng project
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transform kinabangan po ng project
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transform itong experience at itong mag
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masungi Kayo po madam negosyante po kayo
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Madam sponsor But it doesn't solve the
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the legal problem of mas I'm not talking
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about Madam SP I'm not talking about the
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legal problem but in the end You have to
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be legally correct I know you are a
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businessman everything should be legally
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correct well some sh businessman maybe
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yung mga yung mga tusong businessman
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maybe hindi hindi
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kasi on the history of masungi they They
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were granted that to build socialized
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housing during the old the old times you
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You have to go back to the history They
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did not build socialized housing they
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built Uh uh what do you call this a
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Resort and that is not the original Uh
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Uh intention of thei juo reserve Oo so
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in fairness to our government officials
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they cannot allow something illegal
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because they will answer for it in the
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future So ito pong mga m ng project
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transforms Ito po ay mga violators So
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are they considered as inimbita daw nila
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nagpunta hindi po inita masungi no
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masungi was invited we talk to
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masungi Would you like us to bring
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masungi here or even make a phone call
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Tawagan niyo masungi would somebody call
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masungi Right Here Right Now magalaman
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kung nag Sinong sinungaling DNR o
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masungi kung gusto mo magpaano pa tayo
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ah light detector test where polygraph
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test para malaman kung sino
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sinungaling of the masungi
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Meron ba kayong pinadalang sulat mas
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management council was invited and masi
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Ge reserve is part of it well send show
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us proof like letter of
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invitation kasi syempre ininvite sila
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hindi naman verbal lang yan Yan po
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pinapadalan sila ng sulat Nasaan po yung
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sulat na They were Officially invited
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verbally can you show us Yeah Where is
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counc we will provide you the invitation
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to the Council of which masungi Ge
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member No what I'm saying is a letter of
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which indic that they were Officially
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invited without that letter parang
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Kahit na hindi at Syempre sasabin ng
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masungi we weren't invited At sasabihin
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po ng d Yes you w invited So paano natin
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malaman kung sino nagsabing totoo hindi
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dapat may invitation letter
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Then Mr Tulfo senator Tulfo they have a
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copy of the invitation forward it to you
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okay that's good hindi lang nila dala
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ngayon But they will forward it to
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you now moving on next time kasi kayo
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DNR pag meron kayong mga project gawin
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niyo namang malinis po ung mga project
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ninyo gawin niyo naman pong malinis po
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yung mga intent ninyo kapag kayo po'y
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nagsibak ng mga grupo ayus niyo naman po
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parang lokohan para sa akin I'm sorry
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kasi para sa akin masungi should have
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invited Tingnan na lang natin onong
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award mga award na natanggap nila isn't
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this enough aren't these enough these
24:05.5
Awards international Awards ito hindi
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yyung award award lang na house na dito
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dito lang gawa-gawa kung sino-sinong
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grupo these are international Awards
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groups they should be included but In
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The End you cannot give a land owned by
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the government to a private I'm no
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longer Mr President Madam sponsor I'm no
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longer questioning that pass na tayo
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diyan ang sa akin lang Yeah Sabi ko nga
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they might they will give you the
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invitation it's just that it's not with
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them now but they will send you and then
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on top of that babalik ulit tayo na sana
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hindi nila ininvite yung dalawang
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suspendido sinuspend nila ung permit now
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sabi niyo kanina you did mention na yun
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ay isang Gathering ng discipline
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something can you repeat again It's a
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Gathering of disciplinary multi
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stakeholder collaboration to
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rehabilitate the area together with lgu
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the stakeholders plan and identified
25:11.4
projects to be implement po kan Madam
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spons Mr President word
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disciplinary can you mention that again
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trans disciplinary approach towards
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natural resources
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Res multi cabor exactly dinisiplina niyo
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um dalawang kumpanya kumpanya Nong
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dalawang tao dahil violator sila and yet
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them baka mahilig
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mag-attend I'm sorry mam meron kasing
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mahilig magattend
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ibang hindi mahilig magattend
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mahilig mag-attend Eh siguro Ong
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dalawang to mahilig mag-attend exactly
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Thank you I rest my
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case now Let's move on black sand
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mining f muna oh before we go we proceed
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to black sand mining Saan baung
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fy the DNR issued a
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manual nist yung exceptions for non
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information a data in the course of
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applying for environmental compliance
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certificate pursuant presidential decree
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1586 Uh during the lifetime existing of
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mining permit results intellectual
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analysis So ibig sabihin in short Uh
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exempted sa freedom of information act
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ah sa F Ah yung list of
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exemption ah What's the question again
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kasi nga po pag yung mga NGOs
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nag-inquire about the violations of
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certain mining companies Hindi po
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information ng DNR at ang ginagamit ay
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yun ah the data exempted for disclosure
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in the foi is any data in the course of
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applying for an ECC pursuant to PD
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number 1586 exactly This does not
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include the list of applicants for ACC
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provided however that such a list of
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applicants must comply with the data
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2012 So yung methodological reports
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Kasama rin po sa Exception na sa foi act
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so Bakit po ayaw po magbigay ng
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information ang DNR doon po sa mga
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gustong mag-inquire especially
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NGOs espcially environmental about the
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data privacy Act of 2012 exactly correct
29:01.2
now does it involve National Security
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para i exempt iung pong Anong klaseng
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minerals Anong grade mga minerals o or
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minimina National Security ho
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paan is that personal privacy personal
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communication It's It's not really about
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security National Security It's that the
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DNR can practice the based on the data
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privacy Act of 2012 not for security why
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bakit nga po Bakit in exempt Ah siguro
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mag-a-apply ka may knowledge ka about
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what can be done in that area hindi rin
29:53.8
maganda na malaman ang iba kasi
29:55.7
gagayahin ka na lahat why not regalian
29:58.6
doctrine have you heard of regalian
30:01.0
doctrine article 12 section 2 have you
30:03.9
heard of that Mr President Madam sponsor
30:07.3
siguro alam po ng mga tagaa DNR pakibasa
30:10.1
po meron akong ditong kopya Siguro meron
30:12.2
din kayo What is regalian
30:14.4
doctrine article 12 section 2 pakibasa
30:18.3
po alam niyo po yan may mga abogado po
30:21.1
kayo diyan doct Ano yun regalian
30:24.3
doctrine p regalian doct all lsang
30:30.4
all land that's the region all lands
30:34.4
owned by the state exactly shortcut so
30:39.3
therefore kung iun ay pag-aaari ng state
30:42.5
ng estado may karapatan ang lahat ng
30:45.2
pilipino na malaman magkaroon ng
30:47.6
impormasyon tungkol sa mga bagay-bagay
30:49.8
na kung saan ay may nakikinabang diyan o
30:52.9
may nag-explore diyan o merong mga
31:00.7
pagkakitaan So bakit yan sinama
31:10.6
foi kaya daw nila hindi binibigay lahat
31:13.5
ang data kasi yung mga applicant nila
31:15.9
may mga trade secret din and May mga
31:18.3
personal data na ayaw nilang malaman
31:25.5
have have to consent of the applicants
31:29.7
Kasi hindi nila pwedeng ilabas yung mga
31:35.8
important things that they don't want to
31:42.9
public gentlemen if the gentleman can
31:45.4
give the specifics Uh When where the EC
31:50.4
environmental compliance certificate now
31:53.7
pagkukuha ng ECC then exempted din
31:59.0
yan sa foi act na
32:03.1
dapat Paano malalaman ng EC ng taong
32:08.3
bayan na compliant ito nagaapply ng ECC
32:12.0
and who are these people applying for
32:16.4
EC can the sponsor answer the
32:19.7
question the data exempted for
32:22.4
disclosure in the foi is any data in the
32:25.8
course of applying for an ECC puru one
32:30.9
1586 This does not include the list of
32:33.8
applicants for ECC provided however that
32:37.6
such a list of applicants must comply
32:40.4
with the data privacy Act of
32:50.0
So yung list of applicants for EC
32:53.9
linalabas but yung information about
32:57.1
them is the one na hindi nilalabas
33:00.3
information about whom about about those
33:04.8
ECC a is yeah but how would the people
33:09.5
know Itong mga naga-apply ng EC ay itoy
33:13.0
mga taong karapatdapat na mabigyan ng
33:16.0
approval paano k ito yung mga terrorista
33:18.7
Paano kung ito'y mga masasamang elemento
33:20.8
na naga-apply na pala the
33:23.2
document the public available during
33:26.6
public hearing for
33:28.6
the general public and com so during
33:31.0
public Hearings binibigay ang pangalan
33:33.9
nito I don't think
33:44.0
in an gagawi during the public hearing
33:47.6
they are given but not in
33:57.9
know about the applicants then they
33:59.8
should attend the public
34:02.8
hearing if they want to know about the
34:05.3
applicants they should attend the public
34:07.8
Hearings but during public Hearings are
34:10.2
the names of the applicants being
34:11.5
disclosed yes yes and all the
34:15.2
information pertaining
34:18.0
to the project details during public
34:21.6
hearing including the kind of minerals
34:25.0
that they will be mining what kind of
34:28.0
minerals are there and the grade of the
34:32.7
minerals is that Yes it's open during
34:42.7
hearing but but during Uh public
34:46.5
Hearings if it's true That's being
34:48.5
disclosed How come p yung mga NGOs
34:51.2
humingi po na mga information
35:03.1
mining stakeholders mining activities
35:06.5
Sila po hinaharang at hindi po sila
35:08.0
binibigyan that has been the
35:10.1
longstanding complaints of some NGOs but
35:12.9
they are invited to the they can attend
35:15.5
the public hearing nobody is not
35:19.9
allowed is forbidden to attend it's not
35:24.0
forbidden to attend the public hearing
35:27.0
but it be safe to say that siguro Hwag
35:30.5
na lang po natin i-include Kaya pa naman
35:32.4
maram pang proseso Hwag natin iinclude
35:34.8
Hwag na natin i-exempt yun pong Ah yung
35:39.8
sa foi act exempt yung tungkol sa mga
35:43.3
information about mining activities yun
35:46.0
lang po sa akin yun lang po ang
35:47.9
ipinarating sa akin ng complaints of
35:51.4
environmentalist Yun po yung kanilang
35:53.4
hinaing we can consider po pero I'm just
35:56.1
trying to voice out there
36:06.5
sentiments now Let's move on po sa black
36:09.5
sand mining Ano na
36:12.6
pong Ano na po ngayon ang status ng
36:15.1
black sand mining sa Pilipinas
36:36.2
a list here of the applicant for black
36:43.6
Uh in car There is None in Region one
36:55.2
river and then in region
36:58.3
to jvc resources corporation and pel
37:08.4
corporation and then in region 3 no
37:14.5
mining region 4a no black sand mining in
37:19.5
MIMAROPA no black mining in Region 5 no
37:24.4
black sand mining in ah
37:35.1
complain regarding illegal black sign
37:38.8
mining and in region 7 no black s mining
37:47.8
one but non operational but non
37:51.3
operational and 9 10 11 12 13 no black s
37:56.4
mining so only How many
37:59.7
eight Region eight region two but not
38:02.9
operation but all of them are not
38:06.0
operational exactly So paano po
38:08.7
malalaman ng DNR na wala na pong black
38:13.4
mining sa iba't ibang lugar sa pilipinas
38:16.4
regional office What kind of monitoring
38:19.1
do ah the Regional offices of DNR are
38:23.6
required to monitor and they report If
38:26.4
there is black sand mining in their
38:29.7
areas the record Okay
38:33.9
um Alam niyo po siguro yung tinatawag na
38:39.1
dredging yes yes okay so kumukuha po ng
38:43.2
permit yan sa lgu Usually sa Governor m
38:49.4
ah para mag hakot ng
38:54.7
buhangin Tama po and sabihin na yan po
38:58.2
ay dadalhin sa Maynila sa Manila Bay
39:00.4
usually ang binibigyan na reason para sa
39:11.6
right m yes okay So paano po malalaman
39:16.8
ng DNR na yun pong mga hinuhukay na
39:21.6
buhangin from different parts of the
39:23.4
country Ilocos Cagayan Zambales yun po
39:26.5
talaga ay dadalhin sa Manila Bay at
39:29.6
hindi po y ipupuslit palabas ng bansa at
39:32.3
pagdating po ng bansa Kung saan man yon
39:34.4
yun po'y gagamitin ng magnetized
39:36.3
equipment para mahiwalay po yyung black
39:40.1
sand ang pagka commercial po ang
39:44.4
intensyon kailangan po ng DPWH plan
39:48.5
and private naman po ibig sabihing for
39:51.2
restoration rehabilitation alam po natin
39:53.7
kung saang dadali kasi rehabilitation
39:58.0
so for commercial ka
40:15.7
rehabilitation wala nian
40:30.7
perhaps the question being asked
40:33.4
gentleman perhaps the question being the
40:35.8
gentleman is If there is a regulatory
40:38.7
framework Yeah there is moratorium on
40:42.3
this since 2014 from the point of view
40:48.1
DNR and if it will be used for
40:51.0
commercial DPWH should know about it but
40:58.1
there isum this since 2014 that was not
41:01.9
my question I'm sorry Mr President I'm
41:04.2
sponsor ang question ko is Excuse me Yun
41:07.9
pong dge ng mga buhangin from Zambales
41:12.8
different parts of Zambales Ilocos
41:14.7
Cagayan pa natin malaman na yung mga
41:17.5
buhangin na iyon ay hindi nilalabas ng
41:19.7
bansa pagdating sa labas ng bansa y po
41:22.4
sinasara para alisin po yung black sand
41:25.6
and then yung buhangin ay gagamitin
41:27.4
tambak sa West Philippines se bawal daw
41:30.0
pong maglabas Bawal nga pero anong
41:32.3
klaseng monitoring ang ginagawa natin
41:33.9
para ma-ensure na yung talagang
41:35.6
naghuhukay ng buhangin doon sa mga lugar
41:37.8
nabanggit ko ay talagang dadalhin doon
41:40.1
sa daw ang monitoring na sa Manila Bay
41:46.0
reclamation O eh hindi kayo nagbibigay
41:50.3
ba nagta-transform
41:57.7
okay Ah Ah meron ini-issue na transport
42:02.9
permit pag wala ka no Hindi mo pwedeng
42:06.0
ilabas So sino nagmo-monitor
42:13.9
ah the coast guard is the one monitoring
42:19.1
this So mgb and coast
42:23.0
guard so meron na ho bang naharang ang
42:28.1
na mga barko na nagd and then yung barko
42:34.5
na supposed to be sa Manila Bay for
42:36.3
reclamation ay dinadala sa ibang bansa
42:38.5
meron na ba harang kasi I have a list
