00:22.0
iba yung sa tatay mo hindi kumakain
00:24.8
medyo su Dubai si tatay Dubai
00:28.2
Oo si abuab diplomacy diplomacy is not
00:32.0
my Richard diplomacy is not my strong
00:37.0
point p nga diplomacy lang e my worry is
00:40.9
even more than that but Uh Uh sir Ronald
00:46.7
um Oo nga eh Actually um If You're
00:50.7
you're bbm also you have to be to worry
00:53.1
So yung sinasabi ko na strength niya
00:54.6
which is he can lean on the state
00:55.8
machinery halimbawa just now halimbawa
00:59.4
just now the Philippine Military Academy
01:01.6
alumni Association just invited
01:04.7
President degong doun sa kanilang ah
01:09.8
ah Christmas dinner no medyo kwan yan ah
01:14.4
Medyo hindi maganda yan ah the PMA
01:19.0
Association so it's a political
01:20.9
statement interesting No it's a
01:23.0
political It's a political statement no
01:24.9
Ah kaya kailangan pa ng kwan kailangan
01:28.6
pa ng ah puspusang trabaho ah ako tingin
01:33.5
ko rin ay hindi naman mateth si pbm ng
01:36.8
something extra constitutional between
01:39.1
now and 2028 dahil Uh the military won't
01:44.1
support any extrajudicial project
01:48.4
against the President ah na suportado ng
01:52.4
China and for now ah dalawa lang naman
01:55.8
yung nagbubungguan yung Pro China at Pro
01:58.6
us kaya clearly mahihirapan any attempt
02:02.0
to trigger a mutiny or a coup either
02:04.8
through People Power Uprising etc I
02:08.0
doubt kung magss at this point at this
02:10.7
point no pero yung gulo ay ah nakaamba
02:15.1
yung gulo ay nakaamba no lalo na kung
02:19.0
bubuksan mo o gagawin mong vulnerable
02:21.2
ang sarili mo gagawin mong vulnerable no
02:24.8
Ah si digong kasi umabot ng 93% dati no
02:30.0
Ah buti naman maraming nakae na nabudol
02:33.2
tayo kaya bumaba na yan dramatically by
02:36.5
at least half pero half is still very
02:39.3
strong no ah half of that kung Mahina
02:42.6
yung kabila rin or walang alternative
02:44.6
tama din si Mark eh it's not kung wala k
02:47.3
kung wala kang strong leadership no at
02:49.6
yung ibang mga kaalyado mo ay very
02:52.2
ginagawa kang vulnerable ay ah ah
02:55.8
Delikado ka ah nung nung naging
02:58.4
vulnerable Si gma for corruption
03:00.8
nagkaroon ng several co attempts laban
03:03.5
sa kanya yung military yung mga Junior
03:06.1
officers and a failed mutiny a failed
03:09.0
cou can be as damaging as a successful
03:12.1
one no Ah yun yyung Iyun Iyung delikado
03:15.0
kaya ah ingat sila ah ingat sila dahil
03:18.4
ito yyung first time na merong super
03:20.7
power na kinakampihan yung kalaban mo no
03:23.8
ah Ngayon lang nangyari yan Kaya huwag
03:27.1
mong i-underestimate yung kalaban mo Ah
03:30.6
sino ba mayari ng tiktok no Gaano
03:33.4
karaming Pilipino ang ang mas incline sa
03:36.5
tiktok kaya sa YouTube no at ah yan yung
03:41.4
mga variables na bago kumpara doon sa
03:44.2
mga previous government katulad nung
03:47.6
napaka unpopular na gobyerno ni Gloria
03:51.1
aroyo in short sir Ronal you're saying
03:53.4
the room for mistake is less now kasi
03:56.4
ang daming mga minefields potentially at
04:00.4
yes yes yes lalo na kung wala kang
04:04.9
mga political strategies tacticians
04:08.5
operators nakatulad ni mag-guide sayo sa
04:13.3
minefield yun yung
04:16.0
problema sir parang alam mo naganap ng
04:20.0
pension yung isa diyan Mark ang sinasabi
04:23.1
ang tama si tama lahat n sinabi ni sir
04:25.6
Ronald eh pero para sa
04:28.2
akin What is happening na with tiktok
04:31.3
kung ano yung nangyari nung 2015 2016 sa
04:35.1
Facebook Facebook groups parang ganun eh
04:39.0
parang ganun yung pero this time
04:40.4
mangyayari mostly sa tiktok at
04:42.4
nagsisimula ng mangyari ngayon And it
04:44.3
will ramp up even more going to 2028 So
04:46.7
yun ang Yeah abut I agreed tiktok is the
04:49.9
new big thing I think all of us agree on
04:52.0
that in terms of kasi YouTube you go sir
04:54.6
Ronald Go for like to sit down 1 hour
04:56.6
pero yung mga 10 seconds na boom boom
04:58.5
boom tiktok talaga aan e um So this baka
05:00.8
dapat iband na ni bbm Maybe he need to
05:03.2
do something outrageous na ganon banda
05:05.2
sa banda sa US tsaka Canada eh Oo like
05:08.3
all all he has to do is to Just ask
05:09.8
tiktok to put the data centers in the
05:11.5
Philippines instead of China for
05:13.1
National Security and obviously they'll
05:14.5
never agree to that so that's all he
05:16.1
needs to do ' ba ah but Yun nga eh um
05:19.7
baned din sa India ban din sa India I
05:22.2
was checking it sa sa India The Other
05:24.4
week parang oh baan pala dito for
05:26.0
National Security reason so Buti pa yung
05:27.6
mga ibang demokrasya diyan e They know
05:29.7
What's going on and malakas talagang um
05:31.6
I want to ask you Mark on this no Kasi
05:34.3
You're right Anyway I agree na mas
05:36.3
reactive ang mga loyalist or or bbm camp
05:39.0
in terms of social media like this is a
05:40.6
great example sir Ronald nakikita mo B
05:43.2
Oo nakita ko dati ito yung ai na ginawa
05:46.1
kay kay Martin may may video pa niyan oo
05:49.9
ito yung pangtapat ng kabila si Sara
05:52.6
tapos 125 million ang note na ganon na
05:55.7
Piatos so I mean it's it shows that
05:58.4
nakatapat sila but but it's still the
06:00.3
other Camp who sets the tone right So
06:02.7
bakit Mark napaka reactive yung mga
06:04.9
vloggers ng Pro admin or Where they not
06:08.8
pushing the envelop in the other
06:10.2
Direction par Mas magaling pa Iyung
06:12.0
genuine opposition in the whole Piatos
06:14.6
thing mas nag-trending doun yung mga ano
06:17.2
eh Mga pink eh kaya mga loyalist
06:20.3
magaling ka hindi una in terms of sa
06:23.2
social media yung mga vloggers and yung
06:25.3
mga ano definitely mas magagaling yung
06:27.6
nasa side n mga dds ah medyo obvious
06:30.9
naman pero another one is yung yung
06:33.6
subject is important din eh kumbaga
06:36.1
importante yung mga vloggers yung mga
06:37.8
nagsasalita talking heads social media
06:39.9
strategist pero yung ang
06:50.0
pinakaimportanteng eh pang ano eh
06:52.2
kumbaga It's always exciting it's all
06:54.4
It's built for the social media ano
06:56.9
social media age So yun eh e pag si si
07:11.2
din kay Romualdez and as much as I
07:14.2
support speaker Martin Romualdez at yung
07:17.0
mga yung mga ginagawa ng kongreso sa
07:19.9
squad comom na yan at yung mga
07:21.2
imbestigasyon na yan sinusuportahan ko
07:23.0
yan kahit yung mga ayuda Sama mo na pero
07:26.6
kailangan yung yung how you project sa
07:28.7
tao importante eh kailangan makikita
07:30.7
nung tao yung may may political will may
07:33.7
parang Tulfo yun yun yun mismo yung
07:36.3
Tulfo Kaya nga tolfo lang ang
07:42.1
nakakatapos media eh it's it's built for
07:45.0
virality kung paano sila magsalita Paano
07:47.4
sila Humirit Paano sila magano
07:49.5
importante yung subject importante yung
07:51.9
yung kinukuhanan nung content ah more
07:55.3
than yung mga vloggers na nagsasalita
07:58.5
mga social media managers and strategies
08:00.8
na gumagawa ng strategy Mas madali on
08:03.3
their end kapag yung subject mismo ang
08:06.5
bawat salita nag-viral So yun yun yung
08:08.8
ano yun yung nakikita kong ano ah
08:11.0
kailangang kailangang i-improve pa yun
08:13.4
nga e That's just you know you cannot
08:16.6
choose who you are ba um Although
08:18.8
there's always room for improvement and
08:20.5
innovation and all in short you're
08:21.9
saying is that the dutertes were made
08:23.6
for the social media age in ways that
08:25.8
perhaps bbm parang trump sa America di
08:29.6
touch Oo So yun mismo populist touch yun
08:34.9
ang kailangang an disruptive disruptive
08:39.0
literally literally disrupt
08:40.8
destabilizing nga sir going back to you
08:43.8
um It looks like Erwin Tulfo is
08:46.4
sustaining his lead Even if he is part
08:49.1
of the admin So if the admin is not very
08:51.4
popular How come Erwin is still
08:53.0
maintaining that Edge and at the same
08:55.2
time rav as you correctly This is
08:57.9
another thing you got correct Uh based
08:59.9
on our discussion Willie revillam is
09:01.6
back very much within the winning circle
09:03.5
based on the latest service We're
09:04.8
Looking at this that's quite
09:06.4
interesting and then you also said
09:08.5
delikado yyung dalawa yung yung kalaban
09:10.8
ng criminal at saka yyung dating Ronald
09:12.8
lamas ni digong na admin ngayon medyo
09:16.0
delikado pa rin sila noo yung yung tool
09:19.0
po kasi hindi yung brand nila yung mas
09:21.9
dominant eh Hindi yung naka-link ba sila
09:24.5
sa admin naka-link ba sila sa opposition
09:27.7
hindi yun yung napapansin eh an napansin
09:29.8
is the tulpo brand ipaul poo mo ' ba
09:32.6
kahit saan po mo kas w Erwin higher than
09:34.6
Ben hindi ba yung worry dati is
09:36.2
mag-split ng konti dahil mas matagal mas
09:39.2
matagal si Erwin eh mas matagal siya no
09:42.3
at Ah meron siyang Ah meron siyang show
09:46.6
' ba ah at deputy Speaker siya no mas
09:51.0
mas yung projection niya mas sw
09:53.2
secretary da mas nauna kaya kay kay Ben
09:57.4
tulpo ikalawa si Ben tulpo ay hindi
10:00.2
kasama sa admin no kahit papaano
10:03.1
nakadagdag ng kaunti kay Erwin yung
10:05.3
pagiging admin si Ben tool po is
10:08.2
independent kaya kung titingnan mo yung
10:10.4
sws survey medyo number k number six no
10:15.6
medyo medyo bumababa siya ng konti
10:18.0
tingin ko eventually that will take it
10:20.2
to e kung ikaw ay kasama sa admin o
10:22.8
hindi dahil yung admin ay napakalakas
10:26.1
midterms kaya usually ang dagdag diyan
10:28.8
10 15% eh kung nasa admin ka ah except
10:32.8
na lang kung ang admin ay Gloria
10:34.4
makapagal aroyo no So yun ay
10:36.8
nakakadagdag kay Erwin Pero kung
10:38.6
titignan mo kahit number one si Erwin ay
10:41.8
mas mataas siya dati in terms of
10:44.2
percentages ngayon kasi 45 siya e dati
10:48.2
nagse 75 siya e yeah but in the Pulse
10:50.5
Asia He's quite High The Pulse Asia one
10:53.4
is very high but you're right in Thea is
10:55.2
very low so I'm not just sure it's one
10:58.0
to one kasi mataas pa rin siya sa Paul
11:00.4
station and I think also Octa I have to
11:02.0
Double check that but you're right in
11:03.0
the EST this one is Everyone is Actually
11:05.5
very low Everyone is like mga 20 plus
11:08.2
per lang yung iba eh like the tapos ako
11:10.1
hindi ako sinama kanina ba pwedeng
11:11.4
magreklamo tapos hindi ka pa sinama
11:12.7
exactly yun napansin ko sa sws ' ba sws
11:16.3
Baka naman pero pero Mark Marami ka na
11:18.7
lang nalampasan ' ba marami ka na lang
11:21.2
nalampasan ' ba yung mga dati ahead
11:23.5
sa'yo nalampasan mo na ngayon o
11:26.0
Tinitignan ko yun eh Tinitignan ko yun
11:28.8
Ronald very protective SAO Mark e Parang
11:31.4
Syempre love na love na love na love ko
11:33.2
y si sa Ronald eh Oo tignan ko yung mga
11:35.5
dating dating ahead kay Mark e ahead na
11:39.2
kanila So um pero ah dati dati si Erwin
11:44.3
nagse 75% yan eh no kahit doun sa PS
11:48.2
hindi siya Hindi na siya 75 no Hindi na
11:50.7
siya 75 at dito sa sws 45 siya yun yung
11:54.1
sinasabi ko na ano eh minsan may
11:55.9
downside din na dalawang pangalan ng
11:57.7
tumatak na pareh kaya ang tinitignan mo
12:00.6
Hindi lang yung ranking eh tinitignan mo
12:02.6
kasi yung percentages e bumababa yung
12:05.4
absolute numbers no Lahat naman sila
12:08.3
bumab but but generally it looks like
12:11.2
the admin is not doing too bad and the
12:14.2
team dds is not doing very well right
12:16.4
Medyo alanganin si bato bato is very
12:18.8
much Just a point or two at si IMY IMY
12:24.0
also definitely Yun nga so im and Bato
12:27.6
medyo alang and Kiko is very much within
12:31.9
the Range he just needs a point or two
12:33.5
and he He's Tied essentially with Bato
12:35.4
and ay know So and then bam is still
12:37.8
within top 20 so almost there and
12:41.8
B bam is around What 17 18% 21% si bato
12:46.1
I mean that's 2 or
12:47.5
3% Everyone is so low kasi sa sws e
12:50.4
yyung highest waiting but waiting on the
12:52.4
wings si Abalos at saka si camil waiting
12:56.4
kaya ah tingin ko siya pasok siya pasok
13:01.2
siya sa sws sa start ng campaign bago
13:04.1
daw kasi bago bubuhusan yang dalawa
13:06.7
bubuhusan ng mga billar si camil
13:09.9
bubuhusan ng admin si Abalos no kaya ah
13:13.8
baka ang pinagtatalunan na lang diyan
13:15.6
one or two slots No one or two slots
13:18.8
tight ito din ito din Richard sir Ronald
13:21.7
iano ko na din ah kasi napag-usapan
13:23.4
nandon na tayo sa number 18 eh pag
13:25.1
lumagpas ka pa ng konti mga 19 20 21 ung
13:28.5
mga mga kaibigan natin sila Willy Ong
13:30.6
sila bosita yan yung mga yan yung mga ah
13:34.4
mga Internet social media Dabarkads
13:38.2
natin eh na tumatakbo din um kaso wala
13:40.9
silang pang TV commercial Is there a way
13:43.5
kaya sir Ronald pag yung mga ganon nasa
13:45.7
number 18 19 20 ka na para makapasok
13:49.0
doon sa magic 12 When you're When you're
13:51.8
like doc wily n sikat sa online um
13:55.4
bosita your famous online yun yung
13:58.0
iniisipan ko din Paano kami
14:01.0
makakapagtanong man lang isa sa kanila
14:03.0
makaabot doon sa 12 eoy was number 18
14:06.0
nung lumabas yung kanyang TV ad nalagot
14:09.6
ko tumaas siya sa number four number
14:12.2
five no so Depende rin kung anong
14:14.7
maganda ba yung ad mo eh no medyo
14:17.5
naka-relate yung mga Pinoy doun sa lagot
14:19.3
ako sa nanay ko dahil lahat tayo ay
14:22.2
raised by our mothers e ' ba lahat tayo
14:24.8
takot sa ating nanay na medyo na- clinch
14:27.0
ni Pinoy yun eh so Depende kung an yung
14:29.3
kwan mo yung pero television ad pa rin
14:31.5
ha kung kung hindi sila
14:35.2
magte-taping na yon Syempre mas dominant
14:37.4
pa rin ang dominant ngayon lesser na
14:40.2
pero dominant pa rin no dominant pa rin
14:42.6
ngayon ibig sabihin kung ang social
14:44.6
media nandiyan ngayon pero hindi pa
14:46.4
tested eh hindi pa siya tested eh na yan
14:50.0
ba ay Yan ba Ayung magde-deliver SAO
14:52.4
para manalo Ah Ngayon pa y ngayong
14:55.0
eleksyon na ito yung test case eh
14:56.7
ngayung Yun na nga yung magandang
14:57.9
example eh si si si Willy Ong nasa 181
15:01.6
pa rin yung kanyang social media
15:03.8
napakalakas si bosita napakalakas sa
15:06.5
amin sa social media pero yyung
15:08.3
awareness niya sa pul Asia number 36%
15:11.0
lang eh so kumbaga sobrang sikat na sa
15:13.5
amin yun sa social media pero sa overall
15:17.2
36% lang so ang laki pa nung ano niya
15:19.4
par awareness niya umabot sa sa 98% mas
15:22.8
matas mas mataas pa si doc will nung
15:26.0
2019 Ah mas mataas pa si doc Leon kaya
15:29.5
kay jingoy at saka kay Mar rojas at saka
15:31.8
kay Bino nung 2019 ah no kaya siguro
15:35.5
ngayon Dahil nagkasakit siya baka yung
15:37.6
mga ibang mga tao ay nakaapekto yon no
15:40.5
doun sa preference I'm not too sure
15:43.2
dahil wala naman akong data para i-break
15:45.6
down eh kung ano ba yung dahilan unit
15:47.5
Focus group discussions ftg ang
15:49.6
kailangan mo for thata yung longer t
15:51.5
saka yyung longer Uh survey papers
15:54.4
usually kasi ung mga papers na yan mga
15:56.2
more than 200 yan eh eh wala naman
15:58.2
tayong hawak ng yun e ang nahawak ang
16:01.0
ang iniisip ko sana ano eh ah bubuo kami
16:04.4
asa group eh asa Parang bagong slate or
16:07.6
Third third slate para lang yyung media
16:10.1
coverage yung media attention mas ano
16:12.2
kasi pag paisa-isa kami Syempre yung
16:14.8
media hindi they will go either sa
16:16.6
Duterte side o sa o sa admin side Pero
16:20.6
kung Magkakasama kami mga independent
16:23.0
parang dispensa gawa kayo ng parang
16:25.2
Justice League niyo po halimbawa nung
16:27.8
2022 election pwede mong kunin yung 300
16:31.1
pages mahigit ng ng Juni Lilo survey
16:34.4
pwede m kunin yung 250 pages ng Pulse
16:37.8
saka sws ngayon wala tayong hawak na
16:40.5
ganon e Para maunawaan mo Ano ba talaga
16:43.5
yung determinant Bakit ganito yung
16:45.9
lumalabas na resulta Sa ngayon ang
16:48.2
nakikita natin are all summaries tapos
16:50.9
nung nakaraang Elson talagang may kwan
16:53.4
ka e May weekly Focus group discussion
16:57.4
e-com yung resultan ng
17:02.2
MM now let's talk about Uh obviously The
17:05.8
Other Breakout figure of the year no um
17:08.6
I mean on one hand si raffi Tulfo was
17:10.6
able to sustain yyung kanyang position
17:13.3
as the leading or at least Tied for the
17:15.8
leading candidate mukhang sir Ronald no
17:17.8
pag sinama natin iyung mga ibang surveys
17:19.5
na hindi published Ruffy is ahead na of
17:22.4
Sarah no we can confidently say that no
17:24.9
Kasi doon sa publish ng Pulse Asia and
17:27.2
even sws almost statistically reti sila
17:29.4
ni sar eh But you would think um Raffy
17:33.1
has kind of cemented that position as as
17:35.1
the as the front Runner now alam ah big
17:38.7
R Dahil parang ang naglabas lang ng
17:41.0
presidential preference Octa
17:43.5
eh naglabas ba ang kwan meron meron
17:46.3
meron paulia meron meron statistically
17:49.0
Tied statically Tied one hindi ko nakita
17:52.0
ang nakikita ko kasi approval ratings eh
17:54.5
iba yung approval ratings sa
17:55.9
presidential preference e no ang nakita
17:58.5
ko pa walang na presidential preference
18:00.1
ay ah Octa Medyo nag kwan pa sila ngayon
18:04.0
nagdebate sila dahil parang masyadong
18:06.4
maaga na maglabas ng presidential
18:09.2
preference 3 and 1/2 years paia already
18:11.8
did it so I think it's the name of the
18:13.6
game um obc as Mark was correctly saying
18:16.5
kanina unless unless commissioned yyan
18:18.8
ibig sabihin private yyan na inilabas
18:21.1
Paano Iyung public yyung for public
18:23.6
consumption wala akong nakita yung Pulse
18:25.6
Asia meron it's for public you can see
18:27.7
that yeah so Kay interesting I think
18:30.2
more ahead si Tulfo sa Octa kaya sa
18:34.3
pauls sa Octa kasi kwan siya e 34% at 35
18:39.8
si Sarah was 34 lamang siya
18:42.6
statistically ti sila
18:45.2
m nawala ka nawala ka nawala ka
18:49.0
Richard having said that What is Raffy
18:52.0
getting right so far and what are the
18:53.8
things He should be worth I mean
18:55.1
obviously getting right in sense that
18:56.5
he's avoiding talking about the whole
18:58.0
uni team flag ration He's just You Know
19:00.1
He's just focusing what he has to focus
19:01.7
on but at the same If two more tulf go
19:04.4
to the Senate one of them tops the race
19:07.3
couldn't he face competition from one of
19:09.1
his Brothers for 202 and couldn't that
19:11.5
couldn't that or or an embarrassment of
19:15.6
situation well Uh the only way to stop
19:19.7
the the compelling tulpo brand is Uh for
19:23.8
them to be divided for now no if they
19:27.7
are United they almost unstoppable as a
19:30.2
brand ha as a brand no Ah pero kung
19:34.3
sila yun yun yung kanilang vulnerability
19:37.5
ah lalo na halimbawa ngayon si Ben ay
19:40.8
nasa labas ng administration Although
19:43.1
ang sinasabi ni Ben ay maayos naman yung
19:46.7
relasyon niya sa administration pero sa
19:48.5
dulo kasi diyan ah dahil may mga
19:50.7
nanganganib ka na administration
19:52.7
maglalaglagan yan maglalaglagan yan ah
19:56.6
kahit yung mga magkakakampi
19:58.7
nalaglagan yan ang ah sa ngayon kasi
20:01.4
yung yung oposisyon na medyo nasa magic
20:04.4
12 pa ay si bongo kaya may probability
20:08.2
na sa kanya magfo-focus yung lahat ng
20:12.4
ah mga special Ops dahil si bato at saka
20:17.2
si IMY ay medyo palabas na eh no
20:28.8
ba should we count will kami as part ng
20:31.6
Duterte na grupo Yeah well ah before
20:34.1
siya nag independent mas mali mas
20:36.3
malapit siya sa mga Duterte ' ba Pero sa
20:38.9
ngayon dumidistansya siya dahil alam
20:40.7
niya baka baka baka i puntiryahin din
20:44.4
siya ' ba ang packaging niya ngayon
20:46.5
independent Although before yan ay
20:50.2
malinaw naman nandun siya sa doterte
20:52.0
camp no pero ngayon ang ginagamit niya
20:55.4
ay ah Syempre ung ah popularity ng Willy
20:59.7
revill brand which is basically showb
21:02.9
which is basically showb pero kung ikaw
21:05.6
ay number e Tapos ikaw ay ioperate pwede
21:09.2
ka pang mahulog Hwag niyong kalimutan ng
21:12.3
2019 number 4 sa survey si Coco Pimentel
21:16.7
but he ended up number 11 ibig sabihin
21:19.8
munti na rin siya administration pa siya
21:23.6
hindi siya oposisyon admin siya pero
21:27.4
President siya Oo ang feeling niya ay
21:30.4
nilaglag siya ng mga sarili niyang
21:32.7
kasama So ibig sabihin Uh Mark even
21:36.6
within one slate Ay hindi ka
21:39.4
nakakasigurado maglalaglagan yan no um
21:43.6
now I want to talk about h The Other
21:46.9
Breakout star I mean I think the year
21:48.6
was so so far good for for Raffy tulf
21:51.2
it's just a matter of sustaining that
21:52.9
but the other person who did also very
21:54.5
well this year is Riza ontiveros We may
21:56.4
not see it necessarily in the numbers in
21:58.8
of preference for the presidency a
22:00.7
little bit more on the vice president I
22:02.1
would say but nevertheless she's part of
22:04.0
the conversation nevertheless I mean I
22:05.6
think Mark also can attest that Mark
22:07.2
doesn't come from kind of a progressive
22:08.9
background but as a kind of a mainstream
22:10.6
median voter kind of a person you can
22:13.2
see ung appeal ni ni Risa ontiveros has
22:16.0
really dramatically gone beyond the
22:18.3
usual pink or even progressive circles
22:20.9
no Mark What is your read of the Rise of
22:23.4
riz antivirus this
22:25.3
year um ayon um like katulad din nung
22:30.3
nung magandang example yun n sinasabi ko
22:32.2
kanina eh importante ung subject eh
22:34.4
importante ung ginagawa nung subject and
22:37.1
Nagkataon y si Risa
22:39.5
ah for kung ano mang kung sinasad man
22:43.1
yan or nagkataon lang she stumbled upon
22:45.7
dalawang malaking mga issues na talagang
22:48.6
talagang Naging malaking balita this
22:50.4
year One Of course is yung kay Kiboy na
22:53.1
para sa akin is the biggest loser this
22:55.4
year na ung kanyang fall a talagang
22:57.8
sobrang this Ngayong taon one is Kiboy
23:00.5
and of course the other one is yung kay
23:01.9
al guo na talagang and she was able to
23:05.0
capitalize to maximize yyung kanyang
23:07.3
social media strategy is on point at ah
23:10.5
she carried herself herself well so Ayun
23:13.6
eh it's just a matter of kumbaga
23:15.1
leveling up na lang doun sa next level
23:16.7
ah she got people's attention kumbaga
23:20.4
nakita nila na uy nagtatrabaho itong
23:23.1
senador na Toto Ganyan dapat yung mga
23:24.6
senador it's just a matter of leveling
23:26.8
up na convincing people na na she
23:29.3
deserves o kumbaga she could she could
23:31.7
be a good candidate for VP or President
23:35.3
sa 2028 Pero anong kailangan pa niyang
23:38.1
gawin Mark dahil kwan lang siya e 3%
23:42.0
ibig sabihin ah Parang hindi
23:43.6
commensurate yung naging visibility niya
23:46.7
yung naging yung kw niya Napakataas pero
23:50.6
bakit 3% no Anong anong dapat niyang
23:53.1
gawin no ah para para lumampas naman
24:00.5
sabi mo nga napakalakas nga sa social
24:04.1
media or or maybe I'll make it a bit
24:06.6
easier no Mark let's say How could Riza
24:09.6
could put herself in a position to be a
24:11.5
contender top contender for vpr p
24:13.6
President If one of the big names drops
24:15.5
out for some reason let's say Sarah
24:16.9
doesn't Run or tulf doesn't Run how can
24:19.0
she be kasi Una yung ano eh ang unang
24:22.7
tanong ko yung Lenny How much ba
24:24.9
nakakaapekto yung people still wanting
24:27.8
everyone doun sa side niya still wanting
24:30.0
to Lenny to be the standard beer for
24:32.5
2028 Len has Lenny has 9% yun eh baka
24:37.2
yung nine na yun kung wala si Lenny Baka
24:39.1
nakisa na yun eh So yung four niya 12 na
24:42.7
dapat and then Sudden She's in the
24:45.0
conversation right then suddenly if you
24:46.9
have 12 to 15% you are in the
24:48.8
conversation that's big enough paano
24:51.1
paano kung tutuloy si Leno that's a very
24:54.5
distinct possibility at this point yun
24:56.5
nga eh yun din ang problema ko kung
24:58.9
merong Raffy tapos s tuloy si Lenny VP
25:02.0
VP talaga I think Risa should
25:03.9
realistically Look at maybe VP if that's
25:06.0
the case if if if it's if if a Lenny is
25:09.9
not sure not not running and b It's not
25:12.0
sure na yyung supporter ni Lenny ay
25:13.6
lilipat kay Risa I think realistically
25:15.2
Riza should Look at
25:16.4
VP siguro ano eh Siguro It's time then
25:19.4
for for senator Risa to start growing
25:22.6
outside doon sa ano eh doon sa base ng
25:25.8
ng pinks e kasi yung pinks naman will
25:28.6
line up with her naman if Lenny doesn't
25:30.2
Run eh Maybe it's start it's time to
25:32.4
start collaborating with other Ano nga
25:36.4
ba medyo mahir Kasi leader ang Inisip ko
25:39.7
Top Of Mind ko yung mga katulad ni ni
25:41.6
Ellie San Fernando na ' ba nung isang
25:44.6
araw n nagra-rally against sa Phil
25:47.7
health and ano So Ayun ibang ano yun eh
25:50.2
Ah yung base niya is not ano eh it's not
25:53.4
kakamping ah not solly kakamping eh pero
25:56.8
medyo may malapit na ano medyo may
25:59.0
malapit na na merong mga nag-i-inspire
26:28.5
from the from the other side eh kasi yun
26:30.4
lang nga Syempre sa umpisa medyo
26:32.5
magre-react yung base mo n Bakit ka