00:22.8
pa ngayong eleksyon na ito yung test
00:24.4
case eh ngayung Yun na nga yung
00:26.0
magandang example eh si si Willy Ong
00:28.9
nasa 181 pa rin Al Yung kanyang social
00:31.8
media napakalakas si bosita napakalakas
00:34.7
sa amin sa social media pero ung
00:36.6
awareness niya sa PF Asia number 36%
00:39.3
lang eh so kumbaga sobrang sikat na sa
00:41.8
amin yun sa social media pero sa overall
00:45.5
36% lang so ang laki pa nung ano niya
00:47.7
par awareness niya umabot sa sa 98% mas
00:51.1
mataas mas mataas ba si doc Wil leong
00:53.1
nung 2019 mm no Ah mas mataas pa si doc
00:57.3
leong kaya kay jingoy at saka kay Mar
00:59.2
rojas saka kay Bino nung 2019 ah no kaya
01:03.5
siguro ngayon Dahil nagkasakit siya baka
01:05.8
yung mga ibang mga tao ay nakaapekto yun
01:08.0
no doun sa preference I'm not too sure
01:11.6
dahil wala naman akong data para i-break
01:13.9
down eh kung ano ba yung dahilan Focus
01:16.1
group discussions ftg ang kailangan mo
01:18.4
for that yung longer t saka yyung longer
01:20.8
Uh survey papers usually kasi yung mga
01:23.7
papers na yan mga more than 200 yan eh
01:25.7
eh wala naman tayong hawak ngayon eh ang
01:30.2
ko sana ano eh ah bubuo kami asa group
01:33.3
eh asa Parang bagong slate or Third
01:36.5
third slate para lang yung media
01:38.4
coverage yung media attention mas ano
01:40.6
kasi pag paisa-isa kami Syempre yung
01:43.2
media hindi they will go either Duterte
01:45.6
side o sa o sa admin side Pero kung
01:49.1
Magkakasama kami mga independent disp
01:51.1
Parang parang dispensa gawa kayo ng
01:53.1
parang justice leag halimbawa n 2022
01:56.9
elections pwede mong kunin yung 300
01:59.4
pages mahigit ng ng Juni Lilo survey
02:02.7
pwede m kunin yung 250 pages ng Pals
02:06.2
saka sws no ngayon wala tayong hawak na
02:08.8
ganon eh para mauunawaan mo Ano ba
02:11.6
talaga yung determinant Bakit ganito
02:14.0
yung lumalabas na resulta Sa ngayon ang
02:16.6
nakikita natin are all summaries tapos
02:19.3
nung nakaraang elecon talagang may kwan
02:21.7
ka e May weekly Focus group discussion
02:30.5
mm now let's talk about obviously the
02:33.9
The Other Breakout figure of the year no
02:36.5
um I mean on one hand si raffi Tulfo was
02:39.0
able to sustain yyung kanyang position
02:41.6
as the leading or at least Tied for the
02:44.2
leading candidate mang sir Ronald no pag
02:46.3
sinama natin iyung mga ibang surveys na
02:48.0
hindi published Raffy is ahead now of
02:50.8
Sarah non we can confidently say that no
02:53.3
Kasi doon sa publish ng pauls Asia and
02:55.5
even ests almost statistically Tied sila
02:57.7
ni Sara eh But you would think think um
03:00.9
Raffy has kind of cemented that position
03:03.0
as as the as the front Runner now foram
03:06.1
ah big R Dahil parang ang naglabas lang
03:09.2
ng presidential preference Octa
03:11.8
eh naglabas ba ang kwan ang meron meron
03:14.6
meron paulia meron meron statistically
03:17.4
Tied statically Tied one or hindi nakita
03:20.3
ang nakikita ko kasi approval ratings eh
03:22.8
iba yyung approval rating sa
03:24.2
presidential preference e no ang nakita
03:26.9
ko pa lang na presidential preference ay
03:29.0
ah Octa Medyo nag kwan pa sila ngayon
03:32.3
nagdebate sila dahil parang masyadong
03:34.7
maaga na maglabas ng presidential
03:37.4
preference 3 and 1/2 years pa Asia
03:39.8
already did it so I think it's the name
03:41.6
of the game um obc as Mark was correctly
03:44.6
saying kanina un unless commissioned yan
03:47.2
ibig sabihin private yan na inilabas
03:49.4
Paano yung public yung for public
03:51.9
consumption wala akong nakita eh yung
03:53.6
fse Asia meron it's it's for public you
03:55.7
can see that yeah So kaya interesting I
03:57.9
think more ahead si Tulfo sa Octa kaya
04:01.0
sa Paul s buse Paul station was sa sa
04:03.7
Octa kasi kwan siya e
04:05.7
34% at 35 si Sarah was 34 lamang siya
04:13.6
sila nawala ka nawala ka Wala ka
04:17.4
Richard having said that What is Raffy
04:20.3
getting right so far and what are the
04:22.1
things He should be worth I mean
04:23.4
obviously getting right in sense that
04:24.9
he's avoiding talking about the whole
04:26.4
uni team conflagration He's just You
04:28.4
Know He's just focusing what he has to
04:29.7
to focus on but at the same If two more
04:31.8
tulf go to the Senate one of them tops
04:34.8
the race couldn't he face competition
04:37.0
from one of his Brothers for 2020 and
04:39.0
couldn't that couldn't that or or an
04:41.0
embarrassment of riches backlash
04:43.9
situation well Uh the only way to stop
04:48.0
the the compelling tulpo brand is Uh for
04:53.2
divided for now no if they are United
04:56.6
they are almost unstoppable as a brand
04:58.8
ha as a brand no Ah pero kung mahahati
05:02.0
sila Oh yun yun ung kanilang
05:04.7
vulnerability ah lalo na halimbawa
05:07.8
ngayon si Ben ay nasa labas ng
05:10.0
administration Although ang sinasabi ni
05:12.6
Ben ay ah ah Maayos naman yung relasyon
05:15.4
niya sa administration pero sa dulo kasi
05:17.4
diyan ah dahil may mga nangangalap ka na
05:20.0
administration maglalaglagan yan
05:22.6
maglalaglagan yan no ah kahit ung mga
05:25.6
magkakakampi maglalaglagan yan ang ah sa
05:29.1
ngayon kasi yung yung opos na medyo nasa
05:32.4
magic 12 pa ay si bongo kaya may
05:35.8
probability na sa kanya magfocus yung
05:40.8
ah mga special Ops dahil si bato at saka
05:45.6
si ay medyo palabas na e isustain na
05:48.9
lang nila yan pero baka gumawa sila ng
05:51.0
extra effort against bongo against si
05:58.6
counted part ng Duterte na grupo Yeah
06:01.2
well ah before siya nag independent mas
06:04.6
mas malapit siya sa mga doterte ' ba
06:07.0
Pero sa ngayon dumidistansya siya dahil
06:08.9
alam niya baka baka baka puntiryahin din
06:12.9
siya ' ba ang packaging niya ngayon
06:14.9
independent Although before yyan ay
06:18.5
malinaw naman nandun siya sa Duterte
06:20.4
Camp no pero ngayon ang ginagamit niya
06:23.8
ay ah Syempre yung popularity ng Willy
06:28.0
Revilla may brand which is basically
06:30.4
showbiz which is basically showbiz '
06:33.1
pero kung ikaw ay number eight tapos
06:35.4
ikaw ay i-operate pwede ka paang mahulog
06:38.7
Huwag niyong kalimutan ng 2019 number
06:42.0
four sa survey si Coco Pimentel but he
06:45.6
ended up number 11 ibig sabihin Muntikan
06:48.5
na rin siya administration pa siya non
06:51.3
ah hindi siya opposition non ah admin
06:53.7
siya pero ni Senate President siya Oo
06:57.6
ang feeling niya ay nilaglag siya ng mga
07:00.4
sarili niyang kasama So ibig sabihin ah
07:04.0
Mark even within one slate Ay hindi ka
07:07.9
nakakasigurado maglalaglagan yan um now
07:13.4
about the other Breakout star I mean I
07:16.4
think the year was so so far good for
07:18.6
for raffi tulf it's just a matter of
07:20.4
sustaining that but the other person who
07:22.1
did also very well this year is Rus We
07:24.6
may not see it necessarily in the
07:26.2
numbers in terms of preference for the
07:27.8
presidency a little bit more and the
07:29.8
vice president I would say but
07:31.3
nevertheless she's part of the
07:32.4
conversation nevertheless I mean I think
07:34.2
Mark also can attest that Mark doesn't
07:35.8
come from a kind of a progressive
07:37.2
background but as a kind of a mainstream
07:39.0
median voter kind of a person you can
07:41.6
see ung appeal ni ni Risa ontiveros has
07:44.3
really dramatically gone beyond the
07:46.6
usual pink or even progressive circles
07:49.3
no Mark What is your read of the Rise of
07:51.7
rizo antivirus this
07:53.8
year um Ayon um like katulad din nung sa
07:58.6
nung maganda example yun na sinasabi ko
08:00.6
kanina eh importante yung subject eh
08:02.7
importante yung ginagawa nung subject
08:05.1
and nakataon ni si Risa ah for kung ano
08:10.1
mang kung sinasadya man niyan or
08:11.8
nagkataon lang she stumbled upon
08:14.0
dalawang malaking mga issues na talagang
08:17.0
talagang Naging malaking balita this
08:18.8
year One Of course is yung kay Kiboy na
08:21.4
para sa akin is the biggest loser this
08:23.8
year na yung kanyang fall a talagang
08:26.2
sobrang bilis Ngayong taon one is kuloy
08:28.8
and of course the other one is yung kay
08:30.3
al guo na talagang and she was able to
08:33.4
capitalize to maximize Yung kanyang
08:35.7
social media strategy is on point at ah
08:38.9
she carried herself herself well so Ayun
08:41.9
eh it's just a matter of kumbaga
08:43.4
leveling up na lang doon sa next level
08:45.5
ah she got people's attention kumbaga
08:48.8
nakita nila na uy nagtatrabaho itong
08:51.4
senador na to Ganyan dapat yung mga
08:53.0
senador it's just a matter of leveling
08:55.1
up na convincing people na na she
08:57.6
deserves o kumbaga she could Uh she
08:59.9
could be a good candidate for VP or
09:03.2
President sa 2028 Pero anong kailangan
09:06.1
pa niyang gawin ah Mark dahil kwan lang
09:08.6
siya e 3% ibig sabihin ah Parang hindi
09:11.8
commensurate yung naging visibility niya
09:14.9
yung naging o yung kwan niya Napakataas
09:18.4
pero bakit 3% no Anong anong dapat
09:21.1
niyang gawin no ah para para lumampas
09:30.7
napakalakas niya sa social media napak
09:33.3
or or or maybe I'll make it a bit easier
09:35.2
no Mark let's say How could Riza could
09:38.3
put herself in a position to be a
09:39.8
contender top contender for vpr orp
09:42.0
president If one of the big names drops
09:43.8
out for some reason let's say Sarah
09:45.2
doesn't Run or tulf doesn't Run how can
09:47.3
she be kasi una una yung ano eh ang
09:50.7
unang tanong ko yung Lenny How much ba
09:53.1
nakakaapekto yung people still wanting
09:56.2
everyone doun sa side niya still wanting
09:58.3
to Lenny to be the standard better for
10:00.8
2028 Lenny has Lenny has 9% yun eh baka
10:05.6
yung 9 na yun kung wala si Lenny Baka na
10:07.6
kay Risa na yun eh So kung yyung four
10:10.3
niya 12 na dapat and then suddenly She's
10:13.1
in the conversation right then suddenly
10:14.9
if you have 12 to 15% you are in the
10:17.1
conversation that's big enough pero
10:19.2
paano paano kung tutuloy si Lenny Paano
10:22.2
that's a very distinct possibility at
10:24.0
this point yun nga eh yun din ang
10:26.6
problema ko kung merong Raffy tapos s
10:28.6
tapos tuloy si Lenny VP VP talaga I
10:31.3
think Risa should realistically Look at
10:33.1
maybe VP if if that's the case if if if
10:36.1
it if if a Lenny is not sure not not
10:39.1
running and b It's not sure na iyung
10:41.0
supporter ni Lenny ay lilipat kay Risa I
10:42.9
think realistically Riza should Look at
10:44.8
VP siguro ano eh Siguro It's time then
10:47.7
for for senator Risa to start growing
10:50.9
outside doon sa ano eh doon sa base ng
10:54.2
ng pinks eh kasi yung pinks naman will
10:56.9
line up with her naman if Lenny doesn't
10:58.5
Run eh Maybe it's start it's time to
11:00.8
start collaborating with other Ano nga
11:04.7
ba medyo mahir Kasi leader opposition ko
11:08.0
Top Of Mind ko yung mga katulad ni ni
11:09.9
elli San Fernando na ' ba nung isang
11:12.9
araw n nagra-rally against sa Phil
11:16.0
health and ano So Ayun ibang ano yun eh
11:18.6
Ah yyung base niya is not ano eh it's
11:21.4
not kakamping ah not solly kakamping eh
11:24.8
pero medyo may malapit na ano medyo may
11:27.3
malapit na na may mga nag-in na mga
11:31.2
causes mga ganung klase siguro maybe
11:34.2
maybe ano eh it's time to grow Yung
11:36.0
kanyang base outside doon sa nabuo nung
11:38.5
kakamping e sir How do you see that yung
11:41.4
progressive ano talaga yun nga how can
11:43.8
she go beyond the opposition progressive
11:46.4
genuine opposition kind of circle how
11:48.2
can she expand the
11:51.4
parameters siguro iun e mga
11:53.3
collaboration nung mga hindi ka campings
11:55.2
e collaboration from the from the other
11:57.8
side e kasi yun lang nga syempre Syempre
12:00.0
sa umpisa medyo magre-react yung base mo
12:02.0
n Bakit ka sumasama diyan bakit mo
12:05.4
kumbaga kumbaga Bakit ka umaano dito
12:07.4
Bakit parung mga ginagawa saakin Di ba
12:09.3
Mark parang yung mga ginagawa saakin
12:10.6
Ba't ka sumasaya Bakit ka sumusuntok
12:12.4
suntok sa ggc Bakit ka nagp How about a
12:15.9
more populist ano for
12:17.8
Risa kung ganong style will that work
12:20.5
kaya i don't know pero That's a good
12:22.6
question nga kung paano siya mag-level
12:23.9
up e pero one one I think collaborate
12:26.0
with other ano eh with other nga yung
12:29.7
tipo ni na sino pa ba o basta yung Medyo
12:33.9
hindi naman hindi naman masyado
12:35.8
masyadong nasa Marcos o masyadong nasa
12:37.6
Duterte medyo nasa gitna Maybe it's time
12:40.2
to build ano na e a separate coalition
12:42.8
branding na different from kakamping Yun
12:46.0
nga inis Mark and issue siguro siguro
12:50.0
maghanap ng issue na she should become
12:52.8
more showbiz or quote ande bad is is
12:55.2
that the way forward sir Ronald you
12:56.8
think realistically Riza can do that can
12:58.7
she become more show and Badoy if if
13:02.7
takes well sinubukan nila yan dun sa ah
13:07.2
checky bam checky bam kwan nila ' ba
13:10.3
parang hindi masyadong nag-click eh so
13:13.6
baka Not bad for not shes ' ba dapat may
13:17.2
binabagayan din eh or baka
13:19.7
ah baka ibang ah ibang branding ang
13:22.8
problema kasi nila wala silang brand eh
13:25.0
unlike halimbawa sa ip tulpo mo ' ba ah
13:28.8
sa ngayon ngayon ang may dominant brand
13:30.4
are the dutertes and the tulfos kahit
13:34.4
kasi yung Marcos hindi pa ganon ka-
13:36.2
develop yung brand nila eh no Ah kaya
13:40.0
kaya kwan din eh Siguro ang television
13:42.8
show could also help
13:44.8
mm yes yes well matagal sa TV si Risa
13:49.7
Yeah exactly she comes from media
13:50.9
background so yeah natural sa kanya yung
13:53.8
ano naging newscaster siya no etc no
13:57.9
yung sister niya na sa broadcast din so
14:01.2
Ah pero Ah hindi ko alam kung anong TV
14:04.5
show yung pwepwede ngayon eh at this
14:07.0
point baka a idagdag ko din si
14:10.0
Ronald lalo na kung senador ka ha lalo
14:12.7
na kung senador ka ' ba fulltime senator
14:14.8
ka e yeah and you cannot do like hindi
14:17.6
kailangan din yung mga diehard rison na
14:19.4
vloggers siguro It It also starts there
14:22.6
kailangan mayong mga nakikipagbakbakan
14:24.2
na na kunyari ah groupo of tatlo
14:27.7
hanggang limang vloggers Pro Risa lang
14:30.1
sila kahit na anong mangyari Risa lang
14:32.9
so maybe develop from the ranks of
14:35.4
akbayan or doon eh na na ano eh na
14:39.4
kumbaga ano eh i-f na yung idea na Risa
14:42.3
for president eh simulan sa ganon eh
14:44.4
simulan sa ganon tapos doon naman
14:45.7
lalabas e kung ano yung kung ano yung
14:47.6
comment nung ano kung ano yung kung ano
14:50.1
yung kulang ano yung comment ng mga tao
14:51.5
pero maganda ngayon pa lang medo siguro
14:52.8
medyo p-f na nung iba pero ' ba kasabay
14:54.7
niyan kasabay niyan dapat meron kang
14:56.6
brand Ano ba pinaka ano halimbawa ung Uh
15:00.2
ung tulpo may brand eh ' ba matagal mo
15:02.6
ng kilala ung tulpo eh ' ba
15:06.0
kaya patul when when you think of Risa
15:09.2
ano yung maiisip mo na parang household
15:12.7
brand yung ganon can she do a little bit
15:15.9
of a kind of a mestisa version of Uh
15:19.0
Miriam Defensor something like that iron
15:21.2
Lady of yung mga ganyan yung ung babala
15:24.4
masadong Yun nga eh Medyo masyadong
15:26.7
quirky yun eh si si Miriam ' ba
15:29.8
masyadong quirky parang he's a league on
15:32.2
on her own eh parang mahirap mong gaya
15:35.1
parang Ronald de amas yan medyo mahirap
15:37.1
ganun e talagang ah m sapi
15:40.1
eh Yun nga medyo Paano mo gagawing more
15:43.5
populist si Risa eh yung ganong yung
15:46.2
parang Puro ganun kasi nananalo
15:48.4
eh puro ganin Sanders populist w ganong
15:53.8
klase left populist yun yung nagmamarka
15:57.0
eh MM left populist obviously Mark she
16:00.7
canot do the populist na Pro ejk and pro
16:03.3
that but but Maybe she can do more left
16:06.6
Bernie Sanders melon Shaw is right maybe
16:09.7
maybe maybe that's that's that's one
16:11.6
thing but she has she has time she has
16:13.8
more than two years to to figure out but
16:16.2
she has to experiment mga class Warfare
16:19.4
ganon medyo it sounds ano eh it sounds
16:22.1
medyo Parang parang dir pero parang yun
16:24.6
ung Gumagana eh Kapag kapag medyo
16:27.4
populist yung inan sense Di ba Mark I
16:29.8
mean talagang karamihan nating mga
16:31.7
kababayan na hindi nagbeep sa ating
16:33.7
ekonomiya so of course class Warfare is
16:36.1
sensible Dahil lang ang isang essence
16:38.4
isang essence ng populism di ba big R
16:40.8
create a huge enemy and create a huge
16:44.3
solution ' ba ikaw yyung solusyon pero
16:47.2
create that enemy first di ba ito yung
16:49.7
kalaban and then ikaw yung mag kwan
16:52.2
tapos in between magtaob ka ng lamesa
16:54.8
become disruptive ' ba become disruptive
16:59.0
Absolutely Absolutely so
17:01.2
so great year for reon ver without the
17:04.2
question but no room for complacency
17:06.2
more experimentation more things to push
17:08.1
but obviously the other person we have
17:09.7
to mention is i call her the comeback
17:11.6
queen of the year I mean Incredible
17:13.8
Lenny Robredo ended the year on the note
17:15.6
that she did in a sense that you know
17:17.5
everyone Had to go to her and and you
17:19.7
know you know to greet her and TH show
17:22.1
respect from from from you know from
17:25.0
senatorials to to the vice president and
17:27.8
then the meeting in source with the
17:29.4
President even Robin Hood Padilla lahat
17:32.0
na lang ba pumunta kay Lenny Robo and
17:34.0
then of course Lenny really showed the
17:36.2
metal of her leadership grabe yung
17:37.9
trending online others nung nakita ng ta
17:40.6
how she was helping people ba Hindi ito
17:43.4
glamor shot talaga Pumunta siya sa mga
17:45.2
apektadong lugar doon sa Baguio Nung
17:47.6
November marami siyang tinulungan so i
17:49.8
think Lenny really ended a very very
17:52.4
strong Note I mean totka everyone saying
17:54.5
the one that got away But she won't be
17:57.0
getting away if she does very
17:59.8
Mayor office in the next years and for
18:02.5
207 she will be once again disc with two
18:06.8
years na tahimik siya tapos ngayon 9%
18:09.5
siya ibig sabihin not too bad not too
18:11.9
bad very strong years na halos
18:15.1
tahimik even running for national
18:17.3
position itong past few months lang
18:20.4
siya lumantad ul sa bago ba d sa mga
18:24.2
bisita sa kanya ba
18:36.2
ikaw Mark ikaw mark anong read mo doon
18:38.3
sa Lenny or comeback um Hindi parang
18:42.5
hindi naman nga nawala yung mung mga
18:44.3
supporters niya parang Lenny pa rin e
18:47.1
yung pinag-usapan natin kanina kay R
18:49.2
Kasi karamihan still waiting for Lenny
18:52.2
comeback e Len sa 2028 yun pa rin yung
18:58.8
yun na din yun yun naman yung reason
19:00.7
kung bakit ang daming pumupunta yung 9%
19:03.0
na yun or kung gaano man kalaki yun ah
19:05.2
yung base niya Eh syempre gusto nilang
19:07.4
Ano gusto nilang at least maging
19:08.5
friendly doon sa doon sa leader nung
19:11.2
pink na base na iyon
19:13.8
um Yun lang ang hindi ko lang sure nga
19:16.4
how that will affect sa 2028 kung kung
19:20.1
meron pa rin siyang plano na tumakbo for
19:22.2
for president or kung ano man tapos
19:24.9
hindi alam nung mga kasama niya or hindi
19:26.7
siya Hindi niya sinasama di ba Siguro
19:30.0
nga ano siguro for Risa siguro gawa na
19:32.5
siya ng sariling squad niya kuma Ano na
19:35.1
kumbaga establish na you have Joke You
19:38.5
have Trillanes you have alam Alam mong
19:41.6
mas makisa so maybe start from Mahirap
19:44.3
talaga y Ronald It's really
19:48.1
hard I'm sure hindi k kontra hinira si
19:52.6
Lenny mager siya kay Lenny
19:59.0
o pero syempre It doesn't hurt na you
20:01.2
build yourself up for kung ano man ang
20:03.4
event I mean Yun nga but Ang hirap ' ba
20:05.9
Mark you can see the challenge there Ang
20:07.3
hirap e ang hirap e kasi at some point
20:09.1
you're G to step on some toes right and
20:11.7
parang bitin e Parang bitin Yeah well it
20:15.0
is what it is now siguro ano ito siguro
20:17.9
naisip ko lang um ah you need Risa needs
20:21.4
to break out doon sa identity ng ng pink
20:25.2
dilaw yun Siguro Eh medyo mahirap yun
20:28.2
kumbaga yung pink Dela should be just
20:29.9
one part kung nung nung of her as a
20:32.6
whole so that would mean you have You
20:34.7
have Trillanes and Uh joke no on one
20:38.0
hand pero on the other side may kasama
20:39.8
ka pang progressives on the other side
20:41.9
may kasama ka pang mga nasa gitnang mga
20:43.6
trapo on the other side parang lawakan
20:47.3
yyung base na ganon eh lawakan Anyway I
20:49.2
mean Lisa can Run for VP and Lenny can
20:51.4
Run for president and hindi nila
20:53.3
Kailangan magbanggaan ' ba So in a way
20:54.8
yung sinasabi ni Mark could work for her
20:56.6
as a vice president si ba ba Ronald I
20:59.2
mean Riza could Run for VP instead and
21:03.0
Maybe it's even more viable but she she
21:05.8
still has to be viable for VP right so a
21:08.2
lot of things that Mark is saying but
21:09.6
still makes sense right So long as it's
21:11.9
clear na Riza will defer eventually if
21:15.0
Lenny decides to run for the President
21:16.6
again I hope you pero The thing is kapag
21:18.4
mas mataas na si Risa sa survey ibang
21:20.8
usapan na Iyun eh so yun ang ' ba medyo
21:24.1
medyo I'm I'm I'm ano Pero yun nga yung
21:27.6
punto eh dapat hindi tumitigil eh Dapat
21:30.2
the goal should always be ano eh na yung
21:32.8
brand of leadership mo or yung
21:34.2
progressive politics mo maging
21:36.0
attractive for people na ay gusto kong
21:38.2
Pres and what if Lenny really doesn't
21:39.8
Run after all Di ba tama ka naman Mark i
21:41.8
agree Ang problema lang sabi ng example
21:44.6
nga si ell San Fernando maybe mga Gan
21:47.3
ganong types that could work well with
21:50.1
ano with mga Although Although may
21:52.8
sarili siyang party list pero yun nga
21:56.1
nga sinasabi naman ni Sinasabi naman ni
21:59.2
kung hindi malinaw yung Len factor Ang
22:01.9
hirap kay Risa na makapag break out no
22:05.1
dahil nandun yun e nandun yung habang
22:07.3
nandon yung 9 10% ni Len na hindi ganon
22:10.8
kalinaw kung tutuloy o hindi we focus on
22:14.6
local rather than National sa 2028
22:17.7
habang habang bitin doon hindi siya
22:20.3
talaga makapag break out e di ba
22:23.0
gumaganap si siguro ng iba ng ibang
22:24.8
ibang base na ibang ano na marami pa
22:27.6
naman diyan problema lang hindi ganon
22:29.5
kadali dahil gadali nahahati sa Duterte
22:58.7
pwede nilang simulan sa ganon kasi the
23:01.2
pain crowd will always be there naman eh
23:03.4
Kapag kapag ah nag-settle na kung sinong
23:07.2
kung sinong tatakbo but Mark yun nga
23:09.0
What if Sudden numbers are higher than
23:10.5
Lenny and then the pink crowd still
23:12.2
wants Lenny to run and then we have a
23:13.8
certain by way I want That's a good
23:16.0
problem to have di ba kasi ibig sabihin
23:17.8
Ang taas na ng numbers mo tsaka natin
23:20.0
pag-usapan hindi pero that is that is
23:21.9
good for everyone kasi ibig sabihin the
23:24.0
pie is growing di ba a good problem to
23:27.2
have Yun nga Mark e I think No one is
23:29.2
disagreeing that the pie has to be
23:30.4
enlarged ang sinasabi ni Ronald dito
23:32.1
there's the problem is that the
23:34.1
enlarging of the pie might be seen as
23:36.0
zero sum by certain quarters and But
23:38.1
anyway I don't want to say yun ang punto
23:39.8
ko nga siguro Richard ' ba bahala silang
23:42.6
magsalita kung anong gusto nila basta We
23:44.8
will grow akbayan We will grow the
23:47.5
progressive movement We will grow the
23:49.0
ano magkakampi tayo okay tayo pero
23:51.0
hayaan mo kaming dumiskarte kung anong
23:53.5
tingin naming ano tingin naming Okay '
23:55.8
ba So yun now ah last point Uh sir
23:59.4
Ronald Ano ba yung mga good and the Bad
24:01.4
And The Ugly since medyo cowboy ano ano
24:03.7
natin for 2025 ano yung mga interesting
24:06.8
things you look forward to ano yung mga
24:08.5
medyo nakakatakot at iyung mga worst
24:10.4
case scenarios also we have to Uh
24:13.1
kumbaga mag-ano tayo ngayon um hindi na
24:15.3
tayo toron aga Ano na tayo Madam Auring
24:17.6
Let's do a little bit of Madam Auring
24:19.1
sir Ronald saakin ang bad kung Iyung
24:22.1
gobyerno ay hindi Pap kung hindi
24:24.4
papayagang bumagsak yung the moc Swords
24:27.3
sa ulo ng mga duter
24:28.9
no ah tingin ko that will be bad not
24:31.8
only for them but for the for the whole
24:37.2
dapat because the because the the detest
24:41.1
will have momentum after the midterms no
24:44.8
kung hindi na-impeach kung hindi na- IC
24:47.8
kung walang criminal charges na na-file
24:50.7
no until the midterms no most of those
24:53.7
who left them will begin to gravitate
24:59.1
nasa dikit pa naman sila ni tulpo as the
25:03.1
Uh primary contender for 2028 after the
25:06.4
midterms politicians will be securing
25:08.6
their political future and their
25:10.7
political future ay nakatali kung sino
25:13.2
ang mataas for 2028 no at definitely
25:16.9
yung mga marcoses ay hindi mataas so yun
25:20.3
yung delikado baka maging maagang LM
25:23.1
Duck ang presidente kung hindi if they
25:25.5
won't go for the jugular no sa mga
25:28.6
Duterte no They won't go for the job sir
25:32.4
the reason the reason I said Why is
25:34.3
because there are many people there who
25:36.0
will be happy to see the marcoses fall
25:38.2
the they'll be more than happy to see
25:39.9
the Marcos project failing So what do
25:42.0
you have to say to ang tingin ko naman
25:44.5
ay majority naman ng mga Pilipino are
25:47.4
more anti-duterte than anti Marcos no
25:50.7
ang ang ang problema lang ay kung ah
25:54.6
halimbawa yung mga nasa gitna yung mga
25:57.2
undecided yung mga disenchanted sa
26:00.6
pagkawasak ng uni team yung pink at saka
26:03.4
yellow yung nasa middle no ay
26:05.3
mafufrustrate din sa Marcos no then
26:08.3
delikado ang mga marcoses for now Itong
26:11.2
mga undecided Itong mga frustrated sa
26:14.0
pagkawasak ng unit team Itong mga pink
26:16.0
and yellow will defend the
26:17.9
constitutional Order No whoever yyung
26:21.3
nandiyan unless unless no makita nila na
26:25.9
masyado ng corrupt masyado ng ah ah
26:30.1
winawasak yung mga yung mga liberal
26:33.5
democratic institutions hindi lamang ng
26:35.5
mga Duterte kung hindi ng mga alipores
26:38.1
ng mga marcoses kung pupunta roon then
26:41.4
delikado no ah Huwag mong kalimutan
26:44.4
Hindi naman ganon kalaki ang agwat ng
26:46.6
marcoses with the Duterte sa mga surveys
26:49.4
kahit dramatically bumababa yung mga
26:51.3
Duterte no ah hindi sila hindi sila
26:55.3
pulling away yung mga marcoses so dapat
26:58.2
maingat sila they have to preserve the
27:00.8
middle and their political base at the
27:03.3
same time kung yung middle magalit sa
27:05.4
kanila delikado sila no kaya them but
27:09.6
sir something you look forward to in a
27:11.7
positive sense or something you're
27:13.1
cautiously optimistic
27:14.8
about well Ako nga kung madurog ang mga
27:17.7
Duterte that is something to be
27:19.4
optimistic about at saka yyung playing
27:21.6
field going into 2028 medyo na- level
27:25.2
dahil tinanggal mo yung isang ah
27:27.4
elephant in room no ah kung madudurog
27:30.1
ang mga Duterte ah before or during the
27:33.4
midterm No that will level the playing
27:35.5
field to some extent and perhaps We Give
27:38.2
way for a possible blacks one no Iyun
27:41.7
Iyung nakikita kong positive kaya The
27:43.9
Battle is for the midterm eh very
27:46.6
crucial itong midterm for 2028 yun yyung
27:49.8
aking sinasabi kaya it can be bad it can
27:52.9
be good yung good ay kung madurog ang
27:55.9
mga Duterte that is the good aspect
27:59.6
moving beyond the midterm but because
28:02.6
because you're saying Okay let's spell
28:03.9
it out the reason I'm saying Bakit
28:05.4
mahalaga na dapat madurog ang mga
28:07.0
dutertes I'm like spelling it out is it
28:09.8
they're the number one threat to our
28:11.2
constitutional Order and potentially
28:12.6
west definitely definitely at mawawalan
28:16.2
mawawalan ng foothold yyung China dito
28:19.6
mawawalan ng foothold yyung China dito
28:21.7
sa ating domestic politics sa ngayon ang
28:25.1
foothold ng China sa ating domestic
28:26.9
politics ay are the dutertes kung
28:29.8
matanggal sila sa equation then
28:32.4
dramatically manghihina yyung foothold
28:35.4
ng China sa loob no nandon sila yung
28:38.0
agression nila sa labas yun doon sila
28:40.8
magpapatuloy pero inside ah ay mawawala
28:44.3
iyon no which is positive for me aside
28:47.6
doun sa pagbabago ng political domestic
28:50.5
political landscape going into 2028 So
28:53.4
marami siyang mga positive elements
28:55.9
matanggal lang ito pero ang ang kwan ko
28:59.5
ang worry ko naghe-hesitate eh
29:01.4
naghe-hesitate yung mga marcoses to go
29:04.4
jugular character is Destiny the story
29:06.9
of The Years of our discussions so yun
29:10.0
yung yun yung aking yun naman yung
29:12.7
negative aspect nito if they hesitate if
29:15.8
they blink if they blink then they have
29:19.2
they have everything to
29:21.2
lose Mark obviously Yours is more on a
29:23.9
personal note because you have you are
29:26.0
You're the man in the Ring uh what
29:30.4
excitedly next year and ano ano yung mga
29:32.9
medyo nakakabahala SAO of course from
29:35.5
personal perspective but also from for
29:37.3
for for the national interest for
29:39.0
democracy um Ayun syempre excited ako
29:42.6
dito sa upcoming campaign period medyo
29:46.0
Ngayon pa lang Nahihirapan na ako yung
29:47.6
sa mga araw ko paano ko hahatiin yung
29:49.8
Luzon Visayas Mindanao pero I'm excited
29:52.6
na umikot uli maik yung mga kaibigan
29:55.2
natin diyan get to know yung mga
29:57.3
nangyayari sa Luzon Visayas Mindanao um
30:00.0
I'm also excited doun sa mga local races
30:02.4
na na sinusuportahan ko at iniikutan ko
30:05.0
so I'm also excited to see that
30:08.3
um pero pareho lang din yung ano ko eh
30:11.1
yyung kay kay Sir Ronald eh um sa
30:13.6
midterms importante din I think lalo na
30:15.8
doun sa sa audience na nakikinig sa atin
30:18.6
um importante na Magdagdag sa senado
30:21.5
nung mga ah people who could stand up to
30:24.2
the dutertes eh tulad ni bam tulad ni
30:26.6
Heidi tulad ni Kik ko tulad ko ayun So
30:31.0
ah tinama ko na yung sarili ko Pero
30:34.0
anyway Pero anyway um hindi importante
30:37.3
importante yung sa midterms na na ganon
30:40.4
na kapag hindi parang to para i klaro
30:44.3
lalo yyung sinasabi ni sir Ronald kapag
30:46.2
hindi natuluyan ng mga Marcos yyung mga
30:48.2
Duterte in 2028 It will be a tool for
30:51.6
laban kay Sarah yun na yun na yun eh yun
30:54.0
lang yung mag anyone else na tumakbo
30:56.1
outside of that kakain sa sa boto ni
30:58.4
Tulfo makakatulong kay Sarah So yun ang
31:00.9
yun ang nakikita kong Magiging problema
31:02.7
diyan so importante na this year
31:05.1
Magtulungan na muna tapusin Wala namang
31:07.3
masama na punahin yung mga nakikitang
31:09.3
mali sa administrasyon ah karapatan
31:12.1
naman yan and ah hindi naman pinipigilan
31:14.3
yung mga taong magano diyan pero
31:17.0
importante critical yung taon na to eh
31:18.9
kasi tama sir R agag umabot pa ng 2026
31:21.5
at the dutertes are still standing tall
31:24.2
And ah lalo na kung may napanalo sila sa
31:27.6
20 25 yung mga ung mga ano nila ' ba So
31:31.6
critical yung 2025 doon eh kasi kapag
31:34.3
lumagpas pa yan 2026 20 tulf Sara yun na
31:38.6
yyung laban doon pero if you take out
31:40.2
Sarah out of the equation free for all
31:43.1
na yyung 2028 nandiyan yung Tulfo
31:45.5
Nandiyan yung Lenny nandyan lahat ng
31:47.0
gustong tumakbo Escudero Grace po lahat
31:49.5
yan lalaban yan sabay-sabay so mas
31:51.4
magiging mas magiging maraming choices
31:54.5
maraming options ah unlike sa sa kung
31:58.4
hindi matapos ang 2025 It will be tool
32:00.4
for Sara yun na yun yun na yung pinak
32:02.8
laaban talaga and um
32:05.4
yun delikado delikado eh tandaan niyo na
32:08.3
lang kung ano nang kung paano na lang
32:10.3
tratuhin nung mga dds yung mga yung mga
32:14.7
pinks yung mga yellows nung term nila
32:17.3
kumpara mo sa nangyayari ngayon medyo
32:19.3
malayo eh Medyo malayo ngayon ah
32:21.6
malayang nakakapag nakakapag
32:24.4
ah criticize ' ba sa ba ayaw niyo ng
32:27.5
budget Sige criticize niyo mag-rally
32:29.5
kayo mag-ano kayo ganon ' ba you don't
32:31.8
see the level of animosity na ginagawa
32:34.2
nung panahon before so Malayo pa rin So
32:36.6
yun lang naman yun lang naman yung sa
32:38.1
akin moc SP No that's what senator delim
32:41.8
has been mentioning I mean Yeah I mean
32:43.2
for me i i share your your hopes and
32:45.9
fears indeed I mean Uh sir Ronald nos I
32:48.9
mean I always use yyung kuting ng Norte
32:51.1
like that could become a problem for
32:53.5
everything you can say about a dutertes
32:55.1
and their decline if there's no
32:56.4
decisiveness there's no center of
32:58.0
Gravity this could go splintering 10,000
33:01.9
different ways right as as Ronald
33:03.7
correctly mentioned sir Ronald mentioned
33:05.8
there already people agitating within
33:07.8
the cabinet you know other personalities
33:10.0
are trying to leave their imprint so one
33:12.8
one warring scenario could be walang
33:15.2
mapuntahan lahat ng mga nangyari ngayon
33:17.2
in terms of investigations and expose
33:19.0
and that could create even more cynicism
33:20.7
among our voters and sir Ronald and Mark
33:23.5
what what I'm also worried about is sa
33:26.3
Sobrang daming mga clown and
33:28.4
questionable characters who could end up
33:30.4
in the Senate next year no offense again
33:33.3
people might totally like Switch off
33:35.1
right like like forget about the
33:37.3
Philippines right like wala Tal So this
33:40.0
this could be a very scary scenario that
33:42.0
you know I hope it doesn't happen I
33:43.2
think I hope enough of good people make
33:45.4
it to the Senate of course shoutout kay
33:47.5
Mark kambo Dian um also of course We
33:50.4
also hope na some sort of accountability
33:53.4
happens Siguro naman sir Ronald next
33:55.6
year na maybe not September but next
33:58.0
year na the will be some I thing right
33:59.9
Bakit pero bakit mo sinabi na no offense
34:01.9
the populist itos is always go on the
34:05.0
offense naman kasi ako populist sir
34:09.7
I'm meron din ako last note pala Richard
34:12.3
Gusto ko na sabihan nakalimutan ko Kan o
34:14.8
please Focus sa mindanao yun naman yun
34:17.2
eh yung mga yung mga buhusan niyo na mga
34:20.4
akap naung mga pero yung mga Mindanao
34:22.2
railway Okay naman ung mga akap na
34:24.6
tulungan niyo ung mga taga Mindanao din
34:26.1
pero ung Mindanao railway infrastructure
34:28.4
project make the mindanawan feel na
34:31.8
kasama sila kasama sila sa ano kasama
34:33.8
sila sa pag-unlad kasama sila sa para
34:36.3
hindi sila ma- disis enfranchise hindi
34:37.9
sila ma Ayon So yun naman yun naman yung
34:40.6
request ko lang yung Mindanao railway
34:42.5
talaga Sana gawaan na nila ng paraan
34:44.7
paano man kaso parang next year China
34:46.5
China China parang project ng China yan
34:48.3
ng bri ng next years nagusap let's see
34:51.8
Baka naman mga tulong Ah no no but at
34:54.8
the same time you know I'm hoping at
34:56.7
least on the icc be something there
34:59.2
pwedeng mag snowball itong ma iba't
35:00.9
ibang kaso na at the same time I also
35:02.4
hope A movement comes out of this A
35:04.7
movement of a genuine opposition and
35:06.4
movement for good governance and human
35:09.3
rights on that note Thank you very much
35:12.3
sir Ronald lamas for our second year
35:15.0
Ender buse we had that also with Justice
35:17.4
Carpio and also thank you to Mark Gamboa
35:19.5
for our second year
35:23.5
end Wala na um bless you bless you too
35:27.8
bless you to thank you so much for this
35:29.3
So sir Mark New Year Happy New Year
35:32.2
Happy New Year and blessed Merry
35:33.8
Christmas to everyone talk to you soon p
35:35.8
na kayo God bless
