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latest episode natin ng Meta alam ko
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yung M iba sa atin ay tuwang-tuwa dahil
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ah nasabayan niyo po yung a discuss ng
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volume 2 another two hours conversation
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Masakit po yung aking J kakasalita and
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all today including 2 hours conversation
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RW with Congressman walden B professor
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ten former pror professor emeritus
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professor walden bello and ex secretary
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Ronald lamas future lover ng bayan
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future senador Ronal lamas and of course
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na very very um small time vlogger lang
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All right so thank you so much Sa lahat
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ng mga nan sa atin kanina and I hope you
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appreciated Ah yung discussion sa atin
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Hello rin sa ating mga kps Ah hindi yung
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mga kupal na dds mga cool pa Sorry ah
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Hello din sa ating mga kababayan joining
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us from different sides of the world kay
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victoriano joining us from Ano kaung ba
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taung ba Taiwan ba Saan ba um and also
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from Laguna oh paki naman diyan kay ano
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kay Uh Dan Fernandez si Dan fernz ung
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taga Laguna ba yan All right guys ito
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ito mabilis lang ha um obviously dami
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natin pag-usapan but I just w to gusto
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natin balikan a couple of things um isa
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diyan guys obviously yung o tung um Ah
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kaung Ah isa diyan balikan natin itong
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ah Senate Debate nung isang gabi dahil
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may mga highlights naman tayo na
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interesting at of course yung mas
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interesting na usapan which was itong
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usapan na ano yun ulit ah yung USA Oo
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Alvin Yes Ako po yung ano nagte-take w
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dati sa Baguio Opo naabutan niyo yata
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ako nung ano Brown belt pa lang ako
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charot going back to this Wait lang
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sobrang sabaw na ako kanina umaga pa
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tayo nagtatrabaho my goodness oh grabe
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pa yung traffic kanina ito it to ah and
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then yung harapan sa Senate kanina
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kinausap si bato de la Rosa ah sa tingin
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ko that was a very good interview
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podcast Style by no less than What's her
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name What's His name What's her name of
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course Iyung kb my good friend si Karen
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davila Hwag kayo makulit guys mamaya na
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tayo mag-shout out w let me concentrate
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medyo sabaw na ako um and at saka
03:51.3
kahapon kaya magpahinga tayo nag glamor
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shots glamour shots pa tayo medyo may
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patingin din tayong mga medyo mga ano
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may mga bagong glamour shots tayo so
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ipo-post din natin yan No but guys
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um I want to go back to some of the
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highlights of Debate especially yung
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intervention ni ah ni Ma'am heidi
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mendoza really really um solid Iyung
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kanyang intervention and um also um in
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frence kay Luke spirito I think Okay din
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yyung kanyang sagot kahapon kay ah yyung
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dati nating kapusa kaibigan natin si
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Ma'am Jessica Soho and then Of course I
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want to start with Bato Dea
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Rosa and then Let's go to Sara duter
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itong news na Papunta na tayo sa
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exciting part Actually in the coming
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hours o na magtipon-tipon mga dds
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vloggers magtipon-tipon mga vloggers
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fake news peddlers mga ganon diyan sa
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tricom ah sa Kongreso sa Batasan Kanina
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duman lang tayo Batasan malapit doon
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kasi yung ano eh pinuntahan natin kanina
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na ano ah Pang vlogging vlogging natin
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um Uh so Papunta na tayo sa interesting
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part also Kaya nga nagtanong ak kanina
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Kamusta naman ang mga ano ung mga
05:04.4
Bayaran na sa UM Beijing I'm sorry sa
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natin hindi ko sinasabi mga bayaran ng
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pretentious na ano ah major vlogger na
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ano ah wala akong sinasabi um and then
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um itong kay Sarah no so so pag-usapan
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natin very very quickly Habang may ano
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pa ako consciousness pa tayo Grabe
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Napagod talaga ako Okay um
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ho unang-una let me just say please
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pakihintay guys ha Don't get excited ah
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pahintay na lang guys yung ano um Please
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don't get Uh don't get over Uh excited
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ah yyung mga pino-post natin ng live
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Hindi po yung final version yung final
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version po ay 100 GB na tatlong camera
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ang ginagamit na 4k all right so
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sometimes it takes 2 3 4 days sometimes
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one month for us to one week one week
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sana at most to edit some of this 4k 100
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GB multicamera editing so shoutout diyun
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sa mga production Team natin y imo
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nagkaroon ng prod ng konti so h niyo
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yyan bago ako ma-upload yyung finalized
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version but I'll try to get out the kind
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of a mid grade version ng usapan natin
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with walden Bell and Ronald volume 2 pa
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lang ito ah kung saan pinag-usapan natin
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among other things guys ah ang ang
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legacy ni Uh former Congressman the late
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Congressman s Lagman pinag usapan natin
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us China competition pinag-usapan natin
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ng etc pinag-usapan din natin yung mga
06:34.5
bashers natin yung mga mediocre na
06:37.2
Feeling magaling na academic na wala
06:38.8
namang publications sa matino or
06:41.2
ano Okay and then h wala naman akong
06:45.2
problema mag credential ka kasi kung mag
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credential ka siguraduhin mo mga 20s 30s
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pa lang may naproduce ka na seryosong
06:51.2
Ano ' ba but Anyways Tay mayabang an
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Okay sorry na Baguio boy um and then ah
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ano pa oh no no We also very extensive
07:00.2
conversation about the role of Church no
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role of Church Uh in politics or dapat
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walang role ang church sa politics sa
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isang secular pluralistic modern
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democracy so pinag-usapan natin lahat
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iyan so please check it out 2 hours 2
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hours and 15 minutes masinsinan
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pinag-usapan din natin si Donald trump
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pakihintay yan By the way again doon sa
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mga hindi nag-check sa page natin sa sa
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YouTube napost na natin kahapon um
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Actually the other day pa ay yung ah so
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Actually ang mga na-post natin ang
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YouTube n are one Iyung utak forum
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highlights yung conversation natin with
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National Security council arm first of
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the Philippines and Philippine coast
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guard spokesmen and spokes women lahat
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iyan guest natin doon sa aking podcast
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Uh podcast Press Conference na utak
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forum at kasama of course diyan si
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justice Carpio and then at the same time
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guys I also posted Iyung Uh mini
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documentary na ginawa natin kung saan
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na-meet natin ang mga others si codi si
07:57.8
chef Ge um may mga bbm vloggers yung
08:01.6
kaibigan natin si sir Paul from Baguio
08:03.7
Lahat yan na-meet natin doun sa etsa
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rally Shrine Uh last um January 31 so
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please check out all of you mga pinost
08:12.0
natin diyan interesting iyan and then we
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post also some of the highlights and all
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so if you want to see yyung onground
08:18.4
live discussions natin conversation
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natin Uh feel free Andon po lahat yan
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Now let's go to the meet of discussion
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today guys maraming mga interesting na
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Let's start first d
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sa mga harapan at saka mga Senate Debate
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right so before we go to S simula muna
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tayo sa mga kan sa kanilang mga Ay sorry
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sa kanilang mga loyal
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supporters ayan na naman tayo Ayan naman
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tayo punta tayo sa mga kanilang mga
08:49.5
loyal supporters Loyal supporters
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koong loyal supporters kasi mukhang sa
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ating mga kaibigan na k dds mukhang ah
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loyalty Is everything It looks like
09:05.7
loyalty matters more than anything else
09:08.2
because kung pinakinggan niyo genius na
09:10.7
Anong pangalan nung henyong to ah Si
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Robin Hood padelia di ba si robin hood
09:17.2
Padilla po ay patay na patay kboy at
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love na love lang niya si
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kuboy for the soul reason na si boloy ay
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very loyal right so naabutan yan bago
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bago pupunta tayo kay Bato
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it I just want to remind people the kind
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of people we have sa Pilipinas
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nyari hindi lamang sa Pilipinas nangyari
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yung pangit kay pastor kibo naikwento ko
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poan sa inyo dahil tandaan po
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ninyo Pastor kibo ang nanatiling
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loyal at kaan hindi buad
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galing talaga tuwang-tuwa si t yun po
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lang Hwag lang natin kalimutan yun yun
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lang yun lang sapat na po yun sapat na
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yan loyalty tumayo Si pastor para para
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sa pinakamamahal nating pangulo ah hindi
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pala bayan yung favorite wala
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pong sigurong makakatumbas ng tapang na
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yon yun kung hindi Si pastor Kiboy yun
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Hwag niyo pong kalimutan ang isang tao
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na tumindig nakipaglaban at ngayon
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nangungulo ng dahil sa paniniwala natin
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yan po e Hwag nating kalilimutan yan
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Pastor Apollo kibol tag kawawa talaga so
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hindi lamang po sa Pilipinas nangyari
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hindi lang Kawawa naman wanted lang
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naman sa fbi UM unfortunately guys Wala
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tayong magagawa talagang Robin Hood is
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gna be there for quite some time um but
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isa may chance na hindi na natin makita
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sa susunod na senado kaya maganda yung
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kanyang niya maaresto gagawin niyo ba
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yon sinabi to ni senator ping laxon
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Ginamit daw niya within the law iniwasan
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niya maaresto gagawin niyo ba
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secret gustuhan Moi si lla dilima ang
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ang lakas ng loob nagpahuli o ito tanong
11:19.8
ko sa totoo lang Nagsisisi ka ba na si
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lila delima na kulong Hindi
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Bakit meron ngayong pinaninindigan niyo
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na sila Il dilima talagang that time
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kasi nung pinile yung kaso mabigat yung
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mga testimonya ng binigay ng mga mga mga
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Witnesses but do you believe now They
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were wrong lahat sila they recanted Kung
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nagre man sila that's oter under the
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bridge dahil at that time talaga eh siya
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ang tinuturo an magawa gayo ng the OJ
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kung hindi entertaining yung kaso pero
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ang tanong ko Dapat ba na-detain yo ng 7
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years Hindi ba pangaabuso yun nung
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panahon ni Pangulong Duterte pangaabuso
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kung walang warrant of arrest pero may
12:04.2
warrant of arrest eh nakakulong siya
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dahil may warrant parya so paanong abuso
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na mag walang abuso yun legal everything
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was perfectly legal Kahit na hindi siya
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convicted that is the process of law
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that is the DU process kinulong siya
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dahil may warrant siya while ongoing Ang
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kaso So anong pangaabuso na ginawa ng
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per ang tanong ko 7 years no
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conviction regardless kung pag Magsabi
12:34.2
is sinabi to ni senator
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p baka Magi iwasan niya maaresto
12:40.2
basically inamin niya baka mag fugitive
12:42.4
siya kading laks panon ni
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aryo gusto mo kasi si laya de Lima ang
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ang lakas ng loob nagpahuli o ito tanong
12:52.2
ko sa totoo lang Nagsisisi ka ba na si
12:55.6
Laya delma na kulong Hindi bakit
12:59.7
Pero ngayong pinaninindigan niyo na si
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laya de Lima talagang tagap time kasi
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nung pinil yung kaso mabigat yung mga
13:06.5
testimonya ng binigay ng mga mga mga
13:10.9
Witnesses but do you believe now They
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were wrong na Witnesses na walang
13:15.1
credibilidad Kung nagre man sila
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that's bridge dahil at that time
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magawa kaso pero ang d ba ba na-detain
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yo ng 7 years Hindi ba pangabuso
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pangabuso kung walang warrant of arrest
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pero may warrant of nakulong siya dahil
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abuso perfectly legal kahit hindi siya
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convicted that is the process of law
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that is the DU process process kinulong
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siya dahil may si nwala process
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magsabi ka ng abuso
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ginawa sinabi to ni senator gamit daw
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niya with unrepentant first First of all
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guys Let's just be very clear ha may
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tinatawag na weaponization of the law
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and rule by law okay pag sinasabi mong
14:19.2
rule of law ibig sabihin diyan the
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predictable and uniform application of
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law the spirit and the principles of the
14:26.6
constitution to everyone regards of
14:28.4
position or influencer power right pag
14:31.5
sinasabi mo rule by law that means
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iniikot-ikot mo sinsin spin mo binababoy
14:37.6
baboy mo Iyung DU process and all para
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lang i-target yyung mga kalaban ng
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kalaban ng gobyerno and in this case
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kalaban ni digong So ngayon alam natin
14:45.9
lahat ng mga Witnesses ng itong bato na
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yan yung nakita ng video natin na
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binabantayan bantayan pa niya either mga
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drug related people walang credibilidad
14:55.9
na people and most importantly mga
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people na the moment na wala si digong
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at hindi na sila takot inamin na nila
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nagsinungaling sila at itong taong na'
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Tingan niyo unrepentant the least the
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least the most the basic decent think na
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pwedeng ginawa Sana itong tao na to na
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ayaw magp hair follicle test ba hair
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follicle test hair follicle test yung
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kaibigan ba hair follicle testin natin
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um the least na pwedeng sabihin is w
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Well back then based on the evidence we
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look at ito yung decis natin but now na
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ganon then Unfortunate na ito nangyari
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Pero hindi namin sinadya he could have
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said something like that or or you know
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we acted back then based on by the way
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sa aking palaga completely sinungaling
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sila completely sinungaling sila alam
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natin na sinungaling talaga budol talaga
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yyung Duterte administration natin budol
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talaga lahat ng mga I mean Kamusta yyung
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mga totoong mga drug
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lord yung mga Gan alam natin na budol
15:54.5
talaga yung drug war ni digong Pero
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itong itong problema itong tao na to
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tumatak pong real in
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2025 completely unrepentant pa rin tapos
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pinipilit pa niya yung walang yangyang
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fake news na ginamit nila to put someone
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like senator Leila de Lima back in
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senator Commission human rights former
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commissioner Chief and former DOJ
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secretary seven years behind Bars and
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Iyung sinasabi ni warrant of arrest alam
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natin Ian that was based on fake news
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disinformation black propaganda lahat
16:25.6
nian alam natin walang so ito yung
16:28.4
problema sa ibang mga dds dito hindi
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lang sila mali at nag-abuso ng power
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hanggang ngayon ganun pa rin sila
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hanggang ngayon complet unrepentant pa
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sila All right This is the problem we
16:39.7
have guys Okay This is the problem we
16:41.2
have guys so Grabe talaga So kung manalo
16:44.4
pa Ong mga mga ganito agaw yon ' ba Wala
16:48.0
na talagang mangyari sa ating bansa ' ba
16:53.2
now speaking of Team dds guys team dds
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I'll try to end na lang on a more
16:57.8
positive no kaya kay mendo tayo towards
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the end na but speaking of Team dds
17:03.8
Actually Alanganin pa rin si Sarah
17:05.6
Duterte again I don't want to raise
17:08.0
hopes Alam niyo naman over the past week
17:11.2
at least if not past month or so I kept
17:13.3
on warning be careful with attacking the
17:16.2
bbm administration ng exaggerated
17:18.8
semantics or whatever or or purong bbm
17:21.5
attack lang kayo and all because
17:22.9
sasakyan talaga ng mga dds yan sasakyan
17:25.2
talaga ng mga ano yan and then kanina
17:27.0
Nakita ko yung isang hurt na dating ano
17:31.0
ah dating digong cabinet ay attack ng
17:35.3
attack kay Trillanes dahil binubuking
17:37.0
sila ni Trillanes All right let me just
17:39.4
be clear ha Wala akong paki kung
17:41.9
nag-resign ka sa kabinete ng mga
17:46.4
presidente the very fact that you work
17:49.2
for a questionable
17:51.0
President na may questionable na napaka
17:54.9
pangit yung reputation even if
17:57.2
nag-resign ka later on wala akong pakung
18:00.2
after 3 months 4 months even after 5
18:03.6
days ibig sabihin niyan you chose to
18:06.6
work for a questionable Administration
18:08.6
and that in itself raises some serious
18:11.0
questions So yung mga nagsabi na itong
18:13.2
mga tao na to ay nagresign naman to kay
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kunyari ito in this case By the way what
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I said applies but it Itong mga ta
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nagresign naman kay digongan Yeah nagign
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after what how many months How many
18:24.4
years and then Ilan bang ejk by the time
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na nagresign siya even if sabih natin n
18:29.7
design itong tao na to by the third year
18:31.2
of Duterte fourth year of Duterte ilang
18:33.2
libo sa ating mga kababayan ay pinatay
18:35.0
sa ajk by that time under questionable
18:38.4
Ilan questionable deals ang ginawa ng
18:41.1
pilipinas with China including in this
18:43.8
case very relevant The decision back
18:46.1
then for dict to clear itong um China
18:50.2
Telecom back bid investments in the
18:52.5
Philippines and even putting
18:54.8
communication satellites of of of of
18:57.6
China Telecom inside AFP so wala akong
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pak kung nag-resign ka or something the
19:02.7
very fact that you decided to work
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Officially for a government Ako naman
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I've advised all administrations on west
19:09.9
Philippines issue Yes all administration
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informally as an academic and expert Ah
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hindi ko naman sinasabi Wala akong
19:16.3
interaction nagle-lecture po tayo sa
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military sa police nag-advice tayo sa
19:21.0
mga defense ministers in the pass or
19:23.6
usap Yeah Pero iba yung talagang
19:25.2
magtrabaho ka Officially right so for me
19:28.8
once you work for a questionable
19:31.2
administration kahit nag-resign ka later
19:33.6
on may mga question marks pa rin sa akin
19:35.9
diyan right so in this specific case For
19:39.9
inaataki so Sabi ko like parang Wait
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lang All right let's Let's just so iun
19:44.7
Iyung worry ko kasi nakita ko talaga
19:46.1
Iyung araw ni ang daming mga xds people
19:48.7
na xds meaning people who work in
19:50.7
Duterte cabinet people who are very Pro
19:53.0
Duterte na iba people who are wishy
19:55.4
washy on whether they want s impeachment
19:57.5
or not Pero sobrang Uh an anti Marcos di
20:01.2
ba mga tao na um smni related Lahat ni
20:04.6
Nakita ko dun sa Shrine event nung isang
20:06.9
araw nakita ko talaga parang walang
20:08.4
quality control yatang ginagawa ng
20:10.0
kaibigan natin di ba Sana naman di ba
20:12.5
yung mga organizers natin diyan I'm All
20:14.6
For You know inclusiveness I'm all for
20:18.7
not being purist and all pero ayoko yung
20:22.1
magpapagamit tayo di ba sa mga tao na
20:24.2
may interest dito in this case mga tao
20:26.0
na may interest na ma-distract
20:27.6
ang mga issues from the impeachment of
20:31.3
Sarah Duterte at sa mga kababalaghan ng
20:33.4
ginawa ng mga dutertes because at the
20:35.4
end of the day for anything everything
20:37.0
you want to say or claim against Marcos
20:40.4
junor I'm not talk Marcos senor the
20:42.0
Marcus Senior dictatorship was Horrible
20:43.9
dictatorship one of the worst and my
20:45.3
stance on that is clear but for
20:47.1
everything you can say against Marcus JR
20:49.6
we're talking about comparison to an
20:52.0
administration or family that oversaw
20:55.3
confidential funds billions and billions
20:58.0
and billions throughout the dec is but
20:59.4
even worse alleged ejks alleged you know
21:03.6
like dodgy deals and pogos and all of
21:06.4
that all right let's be Absolutely clear
21:08.0
about that let's be Absolutely clear
21:10.4
about that all right ah kahit hanggang
21:13.5
an 3 days state I'm You know there's no
21:16.6
way you're going to win that argument
21:18.3
Against Me Right you cannot prove to me
21:21.6
that your hunch of potential or supposed
21:25.1
abuses in budget is worse than
21:29.1
30,000 ejk than Gentleman's agreement
21:32.0
potentially treason deals with China
21:34.0
than um you know letting in All These
21:36.9
thousands of criminal Pogo people coming
21:39.8
in and and and and to say that your
21:42.8
hunch or whatever is is you know like
21:45.8
immediately has moral equivalence with
21:49.1
proven anomalies pagdating sa usage of
21:51.7
confidential fund like Mary Grace Piatos
21:54.3
level right so I'm that's why Sabi ko Di
21:59.3
ba medyo talagang disappointed ako kasi
22:02.4
you are giving a second win to the wrong
22:04.9
side of this equation you can say both
22:06.7
sides are wrong but the very wrong wrong
22:10.0
side right if I can put It That Way
22:12.2
giving them a second wind knowing very
22:14.9
well na gagamitin talaga yung sasabihin
22:18.2
mo na worst budget
22:20.4
ever knowing na gagamitin yan go ka pa
22:23.2
rin ng go Wala kang caveat wala kang
22:25.2
ganyan Ay naku talagang hindi ako agree
22:28.2
diyan talagang hindi ako agree diyan All
22:30.6
right yun lang sasabihin ko now having
22:33.9
said that the reason why si si secretary
22:37.1
lamas the other day
22:39.4
was telling me Adam man si lamas na
22:43.4
Richard Hwag ka naman ganyan in a sense
22:45.5
that tapos ng laban or if ever hindi
22:48.2
matutuloy First of all pag hindi matuloy
22:51.3
impeachment ni saro or hindi maging
22:53.1
accountable ang duter Test Of course
22:54.6
hindi kasalanan ng kung sino lang ng mga
22:58.0
kaibigan No of course kasalanan pa rin
23:00.1
ng ng bbm administration for not doing
23:02.4
enough but when you know na kulang sa
23:05.1
political will yung presidente you know
23:07.3
na questionable yyung mga tao sa
23:09.4
congreso you know all of those things at
23:11.3
you know that nakatenga Itong mga dds
23:14.7
smni at alam mo talaga na nakalatag na
23:18.4
ready na yyung mga troll farms nila to
23:20.0
exaggerate anything and then go go go pa
23:22.2
rin attack ng attack kay bbm and ga and
23:25.0
all of that ay may problema talaga tayo
23:27.1
diyan and you're not going to convince
23:29.2
me Otherwise buse you know very well if
23:31.0
you use your you use your Actually logic
23:33.2
you know exactly why I'm right right and
23:36.6
I'll tell you what you don't need to be
23:39.7
Uh you know you don't need to be like
23:42.8
Leila de Lima or to to be senator
23:45.2
Trillanes to know how Horrible things
23:47.0
were during the thir administration
23:49.0
compared to now things are not good now
23:50.8
there's inflation people are suffering
23:52.8
They're still unfortunately ejks and
23:54.6
human rights abuses according to our
23:56.0
friends we we interviewed human rights
23:58.0
watch Uh Chief si kaloy the other day at
24:00.6
The Other month Sorry Yes there are
24:02.3
still problems and abuses pinatay yung
24:04.4
kaibigan natin ng iba Sila si si si yung
24:07.7
yung isang bayani natin si si percy
24:10.3
lapit Horrible things have happened in
24:12.8
the past few years but this word but
24:16.8
it's not like all of this Horrible
24:18.3
things were the conscious decision of
24:20.1
bbm or something like that some of this
24:21.6
Horrible um problems are Actually a
24:23.6
Legacy of Duterte time or beyond the
24:25.7
control of Administration and Yes
24:27.4
sometimes administration because of
24:29.3
incompetence or lack of action or wrong
24:31.4
decisions Yes but never forget how
24:34.4
Horrible things were during the Det
24:36.5
administration They were really really
24:38.7
difficult Horrible Good luck calling
24:41.0
Duterte having divorce Budget and
24:42.6
accusing corruption back in the day Sige
24:45.3
lang Tingnan natin kung hindi ka yayari
24:47.6
ng trolls hindi ka kakasuhan hindi ka
24:50.6
gagawaan ng issue hindi ka bababu online
24:53.3
lahat yung mga ginawa nila sa katulad
24:55.0
mga nila senator del lima senator Sans
24:57.2
lahat ng mga nagbuking sa a
24:59.5
administration right so I'm I'm just
25:02.5
saying you're not G to convince me that
25:05.1
I was wrong in pointing out na please
25:07.4
huwag tayong magpagamit sa mga ah tao na
25:12.4
ang gusto lang talaga nila is to
25:14.0
distract from their own faults and to
25:17.2
escape accountability And why do I say
25:20.2
this over because momentum matters
25:23.9
momentum matters because unfortunately
25:25.7
wala tayong rule of law sa Pilipinas
25:27.5
It's all about political pressure It's
25:30.3
all about alignment of forces It's all
25:34.3
about sure in Chinese you know when
25:36.8
forces align towards a certain Direction
25:39.5
those things matter very very much
25:43.7
Okay so yun po intervention na This is
25:46.8
nothing personal the reason I'm talking
25:48.2
about this is because Nakita ko nung
25:49.5
isang gabi ang daming nagco-comment
25:51.4
comment Richard Are you attacking person
25:53.2
x person y no Look at it si code kasama
25:57.3
natin the other day Ang ganda ng usapan
25:59.0
natin si chelo Kausap natin The Other
26:00.9
week doon sa Bicol wala tayong problema
26:02.7
um their positions are quite different
26:04.6
from mine on this issues and Yes I I I
26:06.8
Do Believe na mali yyung ginagawa ng
26:08.6
ibang kaibigan natin na masyadong puro
26:10.6
na lang Marcus attack attack attack 85
26:13.0
90% habang alam natin the most pressing
26:15.6
issue right now is to make sure whether
26:17.4
we we hold those people who have already
26:19.5
been Exposed accountable right But
26:22.6
anyway having said that si sir Ronald
26:25.8
adamant siya na Richard First of all
26:28.9
Hwag kang magano waging ano Uh mag Uh
26:32.3
cynical or Hwag kang masyadong ano
26:34.8
emotional whatever and it looks like sir
26:37.3
Ronald knew as something right mukhang
26:39.2
binigyan siya ng information I could
26:41.1
have asked around if i wanted myself per
26:42.8
ako point for my my my for for me kasi
26:47.0
ganito even if it's quite possible more
26:49.8
than 50% chance na i-push na ang ng
26:53.3
speaker of the house yung impeachment to
26:56.4
the Senate in the coming days or so even
26:59.5
if mangyari yan Well Guess what that was
27:02.1
never sure what was sure was gagamitin
27:05.1
ng mga dds any Uh any kind of rhetoric
27:09.9
or semantic that amplifies their
27:11.6
narrative to make them look like the the
27:14.2
victim of a Horrible Marcus dictatorship
27:16.3
whatever do you get what I'm saying So
27:18.3
regardless of whether things will move
27:20.4
in the positive Direction the fact that
27:22.7
we didn't know that For sure and we
27:24.5
still don't know that For sure for me
27:26.4
that was irresponsible simple lang yan
27:29.6
Anyway going back to
27:35.8
this nevertheless nevertheless there are
27:39.2
indications and I think that's why um
27:41.6
secret lamas was quite parang Richard
27:44.8
Relax ka lang Actually Baka may mangyari
27:46.4
Okay ito wala pang fourth impeachment
27:48.8
laban kay Sarah Duterte All right
27:51.8
but si House of Representative sec
27:54.4
general Reginald Velasco sinabi lang
27:57.0
niya kanina that the three petitions
27:59.0
will be forwarded to the office of
28:00.5
speaker this week so meron ng move
28:04.2
finally to consolidate this sabi It's
28:06.8
still with me but we have to act on it
28:09.4
this week We will act on it this week
28:13.4
The deadline is this
28:18.8
so i think we can see the direction of
28:22.4
doing as of now sabi ni There's no forth
28:24.4
impeachment complain you know I think we
28:25.8
have been given enough time so we have
28:27.7
to trans me the impeachment complaints
28:29.2
within this week so ito na Papunta na
28:31.4
tayo sa exciting part All right Papunta
28:33.8
na tayo sa exciting part Okay so there's
28:36.4
already a kind of an intimation na
28:39.0
mukhang finally some action will be done
28:41.3
about this now let me just explain the
28:44.1
technicalities and the legalities around
28:45.9
that and I think there's this very
28:47.7
helpful For instance among others
28:49.9
article by Attorney amando ligutan Who's
28:52.8
Actually one of the lead councel for one
28:55.0
of the three impeachment complaints so
28:57.7
ganito no So may mga nagtatanong na Okay
29:00.0
so Paano mechanics nito okay Kasi
29:02.7
papunta na tayo sa elections ' ba So the
29:05.6
19 Congress guys is set to adjourn Yung
29:08.9
kanyang session by February 8 2025 All
29:12.8
right so malapit na di ba Ilang araw na
29:16.2
na lang magor na yung session may 12
29:19.4
naman ito yung National elections and
29:22.7
then magkakaroon ng resumption of the
29:25.4
Congress from June 12 and then finally
29:30.0
mag-join on June 14 Iyung bagong
29:34.0
Kongreso Okay so that's why very crucial
29:38.0
yyung mangyari sa mga susunod na araw so
29:40.3
ang mga tanong ngayon basically are this
29:43.7
since hindi pa as of
29:46.4
this vlog hindi pa na transmit ng
29:50.7
kongreso to the Senate ang tanong ng iba
29:54.1
diyan is Ano bang mangyari dito so as
29:56.7
the question was put by one of the lead
29:59.1
council is this assuming the house
30:01.1
impeach the vice president before
30:02.7
February 8 can the Senate try the vice
30:04.9
president even During adjournment which
30:08.2
will be in a week from now and assuming
30:11.2
the Senate can terminate the impeachment
30:13.6
trial and hand The decision before
30:16.3
before its final adjournment on June 14
30:19.0
can yung susunod na
30:21.5
senado the 20th Congress continue with
30:25.5
the trial right so Actually It looks
30:31.6
Increasing cautious optimism na baka
30:34.2
akyat nga ito sa Senate pero What if ba
30:37.1
umakyat to sa Senate and then what so
30:40.4
Actually aminado yung mga legal experts
30:42.4
that you know you know you we can have
30:45.7
some discussion around it so ang ating
30:48.7
Saligang Batas mandates yung ating
30:51.2
senado to proceed immediately with the
30:54.7
impeachment trial after its rece of the
31:01.7
Thursday so dapat immediately maged siya
31:05.5
even if adjourn na siya at that time so
31:08.4
the adjournment of the Senate ahead of
31:10.7
the elections etc should not theoretical
31:14.2
or constitutional imp the commencement
31:18.4
of the trial proceedings of impeachment
31:20.8
against if ever it goes
31:23.5
ahead but there's another interesting
31:25.8
aspect here what if dahil marami dito sa
31:28.9
senado na'to ay takot sa mga Duterte or
31:31.2
Takot na mawawala ng boto sa mindanao or
31:33.6
may mga residual loyalty or baka kung
31:35.9
ano-ano so obviously I'm talk Robin Hood
31:38.4
and Bato and those kinds of people I'm
31:40.1
talk about the other centrist trapo
31:42.6
types Um yung isa pang tanong is what if
31:46.8
itong Senate na to ay biglang i- thumb
31:49.0
down niya kaagad So tapos ng usapan
31:51.8
laban doun sa una is it constitutional
31:55.2
for the 19 Congress to impeach the vice
31:56.7
president and for the 20 Congress tryan
31:59.4
convi ang argument ng some
32:01.8
constitutional expression Lars is Yes
32:03.8
because the constitution does not
32:05.0
prohibit the vice Presence impeachment
32:06.8
by the 19 Congress and trial and
32:08.3
conviction by the 20th Congress So pwede
32:10.1
pala ituloy ulit doon sa next Congress
32:11.9
buto the only relevant constitutional
32:13.6
time constraint is that no impeachment
32:15.9
may be initiated more than once a year
32:19.6
so dito papasok Iyung problema if the 19
32:23.4
Congress impeach the vice president
32:26.2
trial by subsequent 20 contest does not
32:29.4
mean does not mean to initiate so medyo
32:33.9
dito nakikita natin medyo may mga
32:35.6
complication tayo diyan right so
32:41.2
remember one scenario that sanas was
32:46.1
was so there both legal aspect and also
32:49.4
political aspect so one Hope is yung mga
32:53.3
supporters aakyat ito sa Senate but the
32:55.9
Senate will not Uh make a final decision
32:58.6
on it and then wait for the next Senate
33:01.5
to make a final decision on it right in
33:04.4
that sense immediately nag next Senate
33:08.0
20th Congress pwede if enough votes are
33:11.2
there boom tanggal na si sar but
33:13.8
remember there are two ways na pwede
33:15.0
ma-terminate itong impeachment na to and
33:16.8
then magick in yung one year ung parang
33:20.2
yung one year moratorium na you cannot
33:23.4
again ang And now I kind of understand
33:28.4
kasi concerns go in two different
33:30.8
directions right sa isang banda ang
33:33.1
worry nung iba diyan is pag prematurely
33:36.1
ito pupunta sa Senate meaning hindi
33:37.8
ginawa niung groundwork or pressure sa
33:41.2
immediately i-shut down ito ng senado
33:45.4
and then that means the next Senate
33:48.2
cannot continue it this year Papunta na
33:51.4
iyan sa 2026 magkakaroon ng one year
33:55.4
gap that creates a problem because by
33:58.9
2026 baka iba na yung dynamics ng
34:01.3
politika Kasi papunta na sa lame dock si
34:04.0
bbm right that's the political
34:08.1
concern So yun yyung isang worry diyan
34:12.0
na if you push it now baka ma- shutdown
34:14.6
ng Senate at the same time yung argument
34:17.9
nila tr sa mga others is that actually
34:22.3
it there are two other things we can do
34:26.4
two other things so there are three
34:28.3
scenarios right Actually four
34:30.8
scenarios we already assume the first
34:33.3
scenario is not G to happen so the first
34:34.8
scenario is Wala na Uh um Actually no no
34:39.3
sorry well the first scenario is there
34:42.2
will be a decision by the Congress
34:45.4
sabihin natin sa plenary to Shut it down
34:47.2
like wala and then hindi magkakaroon ng
34:48.6
1/3 patay na sabi na-terminate na ng
34:50.8
Congress hindi na Umakyat yan um It
34:53.2
looks like hindi mangyari yan again ha
34:56.0
This is 55 to 45 probability right okay
35:00.2
because we don't have 100% certainty but
35:02.6
if you Listen to what the house
35:03.9
leadership is saying is like mukhang the
35:05.6
13d will be produced so then we go into
35:08.2
three scenarios scenario one akyat ito
35:11.5
sa Senate but this Senate will
35:13.1
immediately Shut it down because takot
35:14.8
sila sa mga dutertes sabih or okay okay
35:17.3
to be fair walang sufficient evidence
35:19.6
They were not convinced that the
35:21.8
greatest Vice President should be held
35:25.6
accountable solid VP
35:31.0
one So if that's scenario one is
35:35.0
probable meaning more than 50% chance
35:37.8
that may explain why some are talking
35:40.8
about a scenario two scenario two is the
35:43.8
proposal latest proposal of senator tran
35:46.9
which is ibulsa mo na lang
35:49.8
yan so Congress will not act
35:54.5
impeachment will act impeachment next
35:57.9
Congress comes in and then by that time
36:00.2
you assume that the composition of the
36:04.8
already L against you can still produce
36:08.3
the 13d and then by that time the Senate
36:17.6
amable to properly look at the facts of
36:20.2
the case that's scenario two wala sabaw
36:23.2
na ako but I'm saying So scenario
36:26.6
one ' ba akyat ito patayin ng Senate
36:30.0
Good luck hintay ka ng isa pang year '
36:31.7
ba scenario two right ibulsa mo yyan
36:34.6
ilabas mo ulit iyan pag lumabas Iyung
36:36.9
20th Congress and then go all in and
36:40.0
then There's a scenario through which
36:42.8
is because political momentum iyan and
36:46.3
panindigan na iyan right Uh and you want
36:49.3
to keep it Alive you push it to the
36:51.3
Senate but you convince the Senate not
36:53.7
to terminate it right and then go for um
36:58.4
kasi p tinerminate ng Sen one year na
37:00.4
naman mag saying So
37:03.7
mukhang some people in the admin are
37:06.6
convinced that if they cannot get the
37:09.7
Senate to produce enough
37:11.4
numbers or that there too many loyalist
37:15.1
sar the most they can do is to convince
37:17.7
mga Cent and Independence Senate to not
37:20.0
Turn it down right and wait for the next
37:23.9
Congress to produce the votes do you get
37:25.8
what I'm saying So ito mga three scar we
37:27.3
look at right so the reason I'm saying
37:29.0
TH because it looks like the fourth
37:30.4
scenario which is patay na kaagad ng
37:32.1
lower house Ngayon pa lang looks
37:34.2
unlikely right So we're essentially
37:37.0
looking at three other scenarios right
37:38.6
now so magkakaalaman na um Well in like
37:43.8
few days malalaman natin Bakit tatlong
37:46.3
scenario lang Hindi four scenarios but
37:48.2
we want know For sure Alin doon sa mga
37:51.2
scenarios na yan d sa prob scenarios na
37:53.6
yan ay mangyari because um much will
37:57.5
also depend guys what's happening behind
37:59.7
the scenes can bbm put enough pressure
38:02.3
Uh sa mga senador to at the very least
38:05.4
not not shoot it down
38:08.9
or do the trial make it clear na may
38:13.7
mali talaga nangyari based on facts of
38:15.6
the case but if wala silang political
38:18.8
will wait for the next Congress to do
38:21.1
that right so ito yyung mga scenarios na
38:22.6
tinitignan natin ngayon so It's very
38:23.9
interesting at so there are essentially
38:25.8
three different scenarios we're looking
38:28.4
with an outside chance that there's a
38:30.1
for cenar na Papatayin na to kaagad
38:32.2
within this week kung papatayin kaagad
38:34.2
ito within this week like oh like that
38:38.0
means Talagang wala Good luck talaga
38:43.2
talaga but the other reason why you you
38:47.0
you would you think pwede maproduce ito
38:49.7
And why For instance Congressman Franz
38:51.8
Castro was cautiously optimistic na
38:53.7
mangyari ito is also you see other
38:58.2
indications right sabi ni bbm or sabi ng
39:00.4
malakanyang at dating Chief justice um
39:07.3
na hindi naman tumututol si bbm sa
39:11.1
impeachment ah hindi naman niya
39:13.0
bina-block So kumbaga hanash lang niya
39:15.4
yan yung mga ganon maybe that's already
39:18.2
telling you something and then mamaya ah
39:22.4
Mukhang may hearing din laban sa mga dds
39:29.3
obviously Wala tayong magagawa sa mga
39:31.0
dds trolls nandyan sa Beijing sorry
39:33.2
sorry nandiyan sa abroad Hello
39:36.8
tiktok shadow Ban na kami lalo kam
39:41.3
but it's probably a way to create I'm
39:46.1
not saying anything but it could create
39:47.6
some chilling effect kasi obviously ang
39:49.9
panglaban ng mga dds to intimidate
39:53.0
Congressman hindi lang yung mga rally
39:54.8
rung mga troll na umatak if you don't at
39:59.2
abante ba si abante na umatras atras ang
40:03.2
dami ni mga sinasabi na Bakit yung oll
40:05.4
niyo ako ako nga mabait nga sin ko nga
40:07.4
si digong sasaktan talaga Ong mga ibang
40:10.5
Congressman pag Tin sila ng big time so
40:13.9
Siguro bukas magkakaalaman na siguro
40:16.8
tomorrow what you're gna say is
40:18.8
that tomorrow what you're
40:21.4
gna What They're G the message They're
40:23.6
gna say do sa mga trolls is ingat lang
40:25.8
kayo right um ' ba So it's interesting
40:30.1
to watch I'm just saying more than 50%
40:32.4
chance talaga maanso sa
40:34.7
Senate if ever hindi ito
40:52.3
ma-transfer So if this doesn't get
40:55.1
transmitted I think it's a Reflection on
40:57.4
the Senate and the fear that the the
41:00.3
Senate will be so scared that they'll
41:03.4
just shut it down right away because A
41:05.3
Difference would be this di ba if the
41:07.2
Senate shuts it down right away then
41:10.4
hanggang next year na tayo pero pag
41:12.7
binulsa ito ng ng Congress We just have
41:16.7
to Wait until June So you're looking at
41:19.5
less than 6 months so 1 year versus 6
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months doun ka sa 6 months except si
41:27.3
sinabi ng leadership ng Congress
41:28.7
magde-decide na sila this
41:32.0
week so for all we know there's already
41:35.3
deal behind the scenes for the Senate to
41:38.0
just go with it but not to terminate it
41:41.2
or Shut it down so interesting iyan
41:43.3
siguro magchismisan
41:45.1
sana sa mga other things and my sense is
41:48.0
senator trilanz wouldn't talk about the
41:50.0
things He's talking about if he doesn't
41:51.3
also have privilege information so
41:52.9
interesting yan so thanks to you guys
41:54.9
medyo napag-usapan na yan ah
41:56.4
napag-usapan na natin guys ito mga
41:58.2
different scenarios na yan alr very very
42:00.6
interesting Sasha Venus walang yakang
42:02.9
troll ka Anong pinag-usapan Mong walang
42:04.4
kalokohan yan ayan kayo mga troll yari
42:07.2
kayo Ayan yari kayo itong walang yung
42:12.7
eh ano ggss pa Walang ya Okay Anyway
42:19.1
mucho kasi may tiktok din na live dito
42:21.5
at I really feel na Shin shad baan ako
42:24.2
like literally our videos goes from
42:25.8
300,000 views tapos ngayon kahit 1,000
42:28.1
biglang wala we know what's going on
42:30.3
to's biglang mababaan yung account ko
42:31.7
but Anyways Thank you pa rin sa tiktok
42:33.5
Philippines for at least keeping my
42:35.1
account Alive and kahit papaano we're
42:36.8
trying to get the message Out All right
42:38.4
Thank you very much guys I know medyo
42:40.3
pagod ako and medyo exhausted ako and
42:42.6
all of that but i'm trying my best to
42:44.1
get the ideas out there so These are the
42:46.1
three scenarios we have to keep in mind
42:50.9
surprise over Game over na ang nag give
42:53.8
up na give up na ang Congress which
42:56.4
looks like it's not a possibility at i
42:58.6
were to Believe Ronald and To Believe
43:01.0
yung mga pasimpleng sinasabi ng house
43:03.8
leadership ngon and looks like the
43:06.4
direction of the win based on m gagawi
43:08.3
yayari nila iung mga trolls tomorrow
43:10.4
right Thank you very much God bless And
43:13.8
talk to you soon Bukas na lang si heid
43:16.4
mendo Napagod na tayo sabaw na kung An
43:19.0
sabi natin Thank you very much guys and
