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In the point of...
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Decisions of courts, it's not yet actually a victory if it will be appealed.
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It will be considered a victory if the decision is already final and executory.
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Okay? Kung final na siya.
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So as of the moment, mga kabatas natin, although this is a good development for them,
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this is not yet the end.
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And this, in my opinion, no?
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And I think the law agrees with me, cannot be considered yet as a victory in relation to the case.
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Kasi nga, hindi pa tapos yung kasuhan kung mag-a-appel na sila.
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Pag naging final na, then we can say, mga kabatas natin, na it's a victory.
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For those who are unfamiliar with the case, I think this is a good study even for law students.
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So this is a 10-year legal case.
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So let's first get the update.
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Cedric Lee is now at the new National Belivet Presence.
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Denise Cornejo is now at the Women's Correctional.
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Yan, mga kabatas natin, pinaliwanag ko na sa inyo kung bakit sila nakulong.
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At hindi pinayagan yung kanilang pag-extend ng kanilang temporary liberty
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kahit hindi pa tapos o final yung kaso.
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Kasi sinabi ko nga sa inyo,
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na yung bill, kasi mga kabatas natin,
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it's a matter of discretion.
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Kapag the evidence of guilt is strong
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and the penalty is reclusion perpetua,
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kasi nga, mga kabatas natin,
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Yung conviction nila beyond reasonable doubt.
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So it is contrary to the decision of the court
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kung they will allow them to post bail.
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Kung the court naman found that the evidence,
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the evidence of guilt is strong.
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Okay? So, yun, sumunod lang sila doon sa kanilang desisyon.
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Okay? Ah, let's go.
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I know there's still one missing, right?
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Yes, a certain Ferdinand Guerrero.
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Um, um, the warrant of arrest is that...
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Hindi alam na natin yan.
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...of extending the country backdoor.
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...he had the ways and means
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of exiting the country backdoor.
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I hope that doesn't happen.
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I hope he surfaces.
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It will have an impact on his further judicial recourse.
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Of course, because right now,
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he's a fugitive from justice.
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If he doesn't appear,
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he will effectively waive any judicial remedies he may have,
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including appealing from this decision.
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Sabi niya, si Batang Hamag, attorney,
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saan ipa-file yung Notice of Appeal
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Oo. Sa RTC na gumawa ng desisyon.
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Sa RTC na gumawa ng desisyon.
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Tapos, ipa-forward nung RTC
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yung files doon sa Court of Appeals.
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Tapos, pag na-forward na yung files sa Court of Appeals,
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ang mangyayari diyan,
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papagawa ng memorandum
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itong Court of Appeals
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sa parehong partido.
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And the other accused, Simeon Palmaruz,
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is at the National Belibid too.
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Yes. Mr. Raz is surprised at the victory.
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Okay. So, were you surprised at the victory?
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I mean, let's talk about that.
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Did you see this coming?
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Well, siguro pwede. Pwede na, ano, mga kamatas natin.
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It's a victory doon sa lower court.
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Doon sa RTC. Pero, like I said,
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it's not the end of the case yet.
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Okay? It's not the end of the case yet.
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Hindi n우�in tayo na tiyo.
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You know, it's not...
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I'm just curious.
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I knew it was можно bread and sauce.
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ayaw ko napakasimpo dito.
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told you, we were very confident
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about the facts and about the law
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applicable to this case.
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So to us, victory
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was very, very probable.
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Except that, as you know, you're also
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concerning developments in this case.
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That to our mind...
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Ang ano kasi mga kamatas natin,
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ang maganda rin kasing isipin kasi dyan,
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na whenever you are fighting a case,
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of course, if you are...
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Siyempre, part of the case,
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you will always file...
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Oh, sorry. You will always fight
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You don't file a case.
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You don't fight a case
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if you don't believe
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If you don't believe na mananalo ka.
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Ganun naman yan eh.
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Kaya nga, parang sa akin,
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Raffi Tulfo filed
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almost 50 cases against me.
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Tapos, nung sinasabi ko
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na I believe those cases are groundless,
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magagalit sila sa akin
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na pinapangunahan ko daw yung korte.
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Ang reason kasi dyan,
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mga kamatas natin,
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is I am the accused.
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And I am fighting for me,
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or even if I am a lawyer
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I will fight or I will tell them,
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of course, that my client is not guilty.
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Sasabihin din nung kabila,
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hindi guilty yan.
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because it is adversarial in nature.
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Hindi naman pwedeng
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O di ba't ko pa ilalaban
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So, ganito rin yan.
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It is adversarial.
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So, ibig sabihin,
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they can say that.
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They can do that.
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research and concerns
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on how the case would move forward.
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this concerning development,
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you know what this is.
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the low point, in fact,
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of the prosecution
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had been the victim
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the 10-year litigation
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the perpetrator of the crime.
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And it was an odd situation
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where at the same time,
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the DOJ was at our side
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prosecuting this case.
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And on the other hand,
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we now have a reverse
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situation where the same DOJ
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pursuing his prosecution
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based on the same facts.
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this is a situation
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and what happened in this case
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was also a vindication, I think,
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of how justice can work in this country.
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At the end of the day,
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the Supreme Court did come out
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with a very definitive ruling
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saying that the Court of Appeals
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committed grave abuse of discretion.
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It was in grave error.
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Itong kinukwento niyo,
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na ito, mga kabatas natin,
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is a different case, ha.
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Baka malito kayo.
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This is a different case.
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Yung case na sinasabi niya na ito,
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ito yung sinampang rape na kaso.
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Yung kaso na rape na sinampa
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na walang probable cause,
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They are different cases.
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So, ibig sabihin,
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mga kabatas natin,
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they are different cases.
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They are not related.
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na si Vong Navarro
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kampo ni Denise Cornejo
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ng guilty verdict.
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it will not affect
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kung ano man yung tatakbuhin
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nang-rape ka pa rin,
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binugbog ka pa rin.
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sinet up ka pa rin.
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ng vigilante justice.
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mga kabatas natin.
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mga kabatas natin,
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ganun yung nangyari.
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na determination of facts
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dito sa kaso na ito,
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makikita nyo naman na
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they are independent
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kung dependent sila
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mga kabatas natin,
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yung cases na yan,
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Mr. Navarro should not
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have been imprisoned at all
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directed the dismissal
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of the complaints
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there was a low point,
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was the Supreme Court
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finally stepping in
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as the final arbiter
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for what justice is.
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So, for those who are watching
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the Supreme Court,
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it was last year,
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The Supreme Court
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essentially dismissed,
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But let's go back
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what was in the CCTV footage.
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alam naman na natin yan
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mga kabatas natin,
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Susana Police Blatter,
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that if he did his part,
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in paying damages
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the police blatter
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There was an expectation...
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Well, alam na natin yan.
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So, I think magandang
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pumunta tayo doon
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Kasi sinabi ni Cedric Lee,
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mga kabatas natin,
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na ano naman daw,
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yung, yung, ah...
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mga kabatas natin.
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na hindi tama yung conviction nila
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wala naman daw yung
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elements ng serious
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illegal detention.
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Yun ang sinabi niya.
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Wala ba pakita ko sa inyo?
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Wala na, hindi ko mahanap.
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Kasi naib ko yun kanina eh.
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Pero yun yung essence
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nung sinabi niya,
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mga kabatas natin.
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mga kabatas natin,
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yun yung sinabi niya.
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At tignan niya ito.
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Ang kaanag ni Cornejo
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sinabing pinag-aaralan,
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nararalan na nila
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ang posibilidad na i-appeal-ah
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ang naton ng Korte.
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They should appeal it, no?
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...Kort na mismo ang nagsabi.
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Na walang nangyari,
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walang ebidensya to show
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that Mr. Vuong Navarro
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committed any crime
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which would have justified
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his being detained.
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...na uwi sa kasong wape
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Ito mga kabatas natin.
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Ito kasi yung sinasabi ko rin
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may punto yung kabila,
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may punto din yung kabila.
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And if they believe na sila ay inusente,
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they can still maintain that
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kasi nga wala pang final
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na desisyon ang Korte.
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Pero pag meron ng final na desisyon
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tapos guilty na yun,
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you have to let it go na.
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Kasi hindi man natin ma-return
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ngayong gabi yung warranty.
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Wala naman po yung elements
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Isa-isa yun yung elements
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ng illegal detention.
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Hindi naman tayo kapasok, eh.
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So, wala namang...
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We didn't detain him
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for more than three days,
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a few minutes lang,
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with the purpose of bringing him
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We never inflicted any serious
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physical injuries.
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Nag-testify naman yung doktor niya.
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Siya nag-offer ng damages
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sa police station na.
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Inutusan din ng Korte ang apat...
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Yun na, mga kabatas natin.
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So, let's stop with that, no?
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Kasi nga, medyo mainit dito.
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maraming salamat po sa inyo.
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tulad ng laging sinasabi,
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matulog po tayo ng mahimbing
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na yung natutulog ng mahimbing,
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siya yung laging panalo.
