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Good evening Richard
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Good evening to our viewers
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As always, as always
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Mukhang tama na naman yung timing natin
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Of course previously, ang timing natin
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Yung mga developments about Kiboloy
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Don't worry dun sa mga followers natin
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Babalikan natin yung issue ng Kiboloy
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Parang anong pecha na, hindi pa rin nauuli
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Baka may alam kayo sir
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Justice, hindi natin alam
00:45.3
Meron bang update dyan sa Davao?
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Ano bang maritest sa Davao ngayon?
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Well, mukhang ano
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Have said they will look for him
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Mukhang mapapahiya sila
00:59.6
We have to send some
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Group of policemen
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Maybe NBI from Manila
01:05.3
Because, you know
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Those policemen in Davao City
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Might not be able to find him
01:12.4
Might not be able to find him
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Or may not want to find him
01:16.9
I mean, is it really that
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Yung so-called Davao Task Force
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For me, ang point of reference ko Justice
01:25.7
Si Bantag, di ba?
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He's from my region, Cordilleras
01:29.2
Hanggang ngayon, parang hindi natin nauuli eh
01:33.4
Unless siguro nag-golf course ka sa East Timor
01:35.8
Mukhang malamang mauhuli ka
01:37.3
Unless magpadala ka from Manila
01:39.1
So, baka totoo yan no Justice
01:41.1
Talagang medyo mahirap umasa minsan
01:43.2
Like Bantag na lang no
01:46.1
Matagal na yung Bantag na yan eh
01:48.5
I mean, of course
01:50.4
I mean, this is crazy
01:51.4
Obviously, for all we know
01:52.9
May kinalaman talaga ito dun sa
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First major, you know
01:56.6
EJK or murder for journalists
01:58.9
Sabi ko, kung si Bantag nga
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Hanggang ngayon, hindi nila mahanap-hanap
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You wonder what the heck is going on
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And then, whether dito sa Kibuloy
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Meron tayong update
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Kaya, itanong kita kasi Davao
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Sabi ko, baka may insider knowledge kayo
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Na pwede forward sa amin
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Justice Carpio, of course
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We need to talk about Digong
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Our favorite president soon
02:18.5
But before going there
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What is your understanding
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Ng itong latest na development
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Sa Scarborough Shoal
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Sa Panatak Shoal naman ito, di ba?
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Hindi naman ito sa Ayungin Shoal
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So, sa kabila naman ito
02:28.9
What's going on right now
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In the West Philippine Sea?
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From my perspective
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This is part of the pressure of China
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Because they're anticipating
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We will go to Red Bank
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To survey and drill
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Together with the Joint Patrol
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And this is part of their pressure
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That there will be
02:52.2
There will be the same treatment
02:55.6
When we go to Red Bank
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But really, I don't think
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Because they were not able to do it
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To Malaysia and to Indonesia
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So, ibang klas yun
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Because that's the open sea
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A high tide feature
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It's totally submerged
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So, that's a different category
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But they will never
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They will strike to intimidate us
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Not to go to Red Bank
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Right, so we're looking at
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Developments in Red Bank
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Ayungin Shoal, of course
03:28.4
Previously and also in Scarborough Shoal
03:30.2
So, let's talk about Red Bank
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And Scarborough Shoal more
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Puro mga ayungin shoal tayo
03:35.0
Which is of course important
03:35.9
Pero balikan natin
03:36.7
What should be the strategy
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Before we go to the Scarborough Shoal
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Well, in the Red Bank
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We have to start our survey and drilling
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Because that's a requirement
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And that's how Malaysia
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And Indonesia started it
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And unless we go there
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To survey and drill
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We cannot get the gas
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So, the first step
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Is to survey and drill
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So that they know that
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They just need confirmatory
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So, we can start getting
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It takes four years
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To develop Red Bank
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Because you have to put up
04:17.4
Put up the pipeline
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From Red Bank to Malampaya
04:20.8
So, we really have to start
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We're already delayed
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Very much delayed
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So, we have to start
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Justice, I want to go back to this
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In the name of the chosen
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Their usual argument
04:35.1
Why are we not like
04:37.7
Who are very good in China
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They're getting investments
04:40.9
Well, one of the things
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That they don't talk about
04:44.9
All of them pushed ahead
04:46.1
With various degrees of success
04:48.1
In their energy exploration activities
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We can do it one by one
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I mean, of course
04:52.8
It's just an overview
04:53.7
Without giving too much details
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Just to understand
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These neighbors are fighting
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We're the ones who are a bit
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And they're the good ones in China
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With first, Malaysia
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Malaysia is the most notorious now
05:10.8
Because of Anwar Ibrahim
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Duterte lawyering for China
05:14.4
For the lack of better way
05:16.5
And then, let's go to Indonesia
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Which is the biggest one
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In terms of development
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Drilling platforms
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About two years ago
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Malaysia announced
05:32.5
Malaysian economy
05:35.5
Oil and gas exports
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That's what's fueling
05:38.3
Their economic development
05:46.0
They need to open up
05:48.7
So, they announced
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Within their exclusive
05:56.9
But falling within
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You cannot do that
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Threatening to go to war
06:06.5
Malaysia still sent
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Survey and drill ship
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Together with its navy
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And the American warships
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Conducted naval drills
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So, the Chinese Coast Guard
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Could not do anything
06:22.9
Were able to complete
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Their survey and drilling
06:26.0
The same thing happened
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Facing the South China Sea
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That's also enclosed
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By the 10-dash line
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You cannot get the gas there
06:44.4
But Indonesia still proceeded
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Accompanied by its navy
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Its survey and drill ship
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And at the same time
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The US aircraft carrier
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So, the Chinese Coast Guard
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Couldn't do anything
06:59.4
Finished their survey and drilling
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And we are the only country
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Among the three countries
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Surveyed and drilled
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During the time of Duterte
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He didn't want to displease
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President Xi Jinping
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He said there will be a massacre
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We cannot fight China
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Three of our largest
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Today, it's supplying
07:29.2
By the end of this year
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Supplying only one
07:33.3
Pressure has been going down
07:38.3
We'll run out of gas already
07:42.2
To run out of gas
07:50.4
Has promised to drill
07:54.7
In the Malampay area
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I mean, you can't be sure
07:59.7
Place all our eggs
08:03.4
We have really to develop
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I mean, the lemon
08:10.2
Has been squeezed
08:12.0
You can just squeeze it
08:15.2
Now, this is very important
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I think there's a misunderstanding
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Na yung makapitbayo natin
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Ay nagsasubmit lang sa China
08:22.5
And they're just allowing China
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But the reality is that
08:24.9
They speak softly
08:26.7
But they do their assignment
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And all of a sudden
08:29.8
We see the trend line
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With both Indonesia and Malaysia
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Vietnam is a totally different story
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Ang napansin ko nga
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Particularly Indonesia and Vietnam
08:37.9
They also bring in
08:41.1
Dun sa mga energy projects nila
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Especially Russia is interesting
08:44.1
Russia is supposed to be
08:46.3
But Russian companies
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Whether it's Gazprom
08:49.1
Have been helping
08:49.9
Some of China's rivals
08:51.3
To develop their offshore
08:53.7
Offshore resources
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It got also exoned
09:07.8
China will put pressure
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If they do it on their own
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Was to partner with
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Two nuclear armed states
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If I'm not mistaken
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So they brought in
09:29.2
Three nuclear powers
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So I mean that's smart
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You make them invested
09:35.3
China was quite successful
09:37.8
With intimidating
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The Spanish gave up
09:45.6
But the other ones
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Seem to be hanging around
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They're still there
09:52.2
They have stopped
09:53.4
But Repsol really left
09:55.4
The Vietnamese government
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And compensated Repsol
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For all their expenses
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They're just quiet
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So maybe that should be
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The blueprint for us
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Of course I remember
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There was an incident
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Where China was trying
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The joint Jakarta
10:17.7
Indonesia-Russian
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Oil drilling project
10:23.5
Indonesia made some noise
10:26.0
I think they did also
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Some patrols in the air
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By fits and pieces
10:30.2
They keep on moving forward
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Do you think this is also
10:35.6
Because it's been a long time
10:36.4
Since we developed
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Do you think it's time for us
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To just elbow our way in
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And patrol in the area
10:43.5
And make sure China
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Adapted by Malaysia
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Accompanied by their Navy
10:59.2
Now the Americans
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When the joint patrols
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With the US happens
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We will be sending
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It's going to happen soon
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So the moment of truth
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Ang dahilan na sinasabi natin ito
11:20.7
At nakikita natin
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Ba't yung mga malls
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Nasa-shut down na yung
11:24.2
Kanilang electricity
11:24.9
I think you can feel
11:28.5
Privileged areas of Manila
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Ba't yung mga malls
11:32.3
Naka-shut down na
11:35.6
Ihirap na hirap tayo
11:36.5
In terms of power capacity
11:37.8
So this is not only about
11:39.4
Sustaining our 6%
11:45.3
Energy crisis natin
11:46.4
Looming energy crisis natin
11:52.7
Because if you have
11:55.4
We'll have 12 to 14 hours
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Devastate the economy
12:03.0
Will have to close
12:03.9
And those who want to
12:05.8
Locate in the Philippines
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In the Philippines
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Those who are here already
12:09.6
Will have to leave
12:10.7
They'll transfer to Vietnam
12:12.5
The moment we import
12:17.8
That means power rates
12:20.0
And they will not be
12:21.0
Competitive anymore
12:22.7
Here in the Philippines
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Manufacturing platform
12:28.0
With the exporters
12:31.1
Where power rates
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Are much much lower
12:34.3
They're actually not
12:50.4
They will all leave
12:51.9
Because they cannot compete
13:01.1
Of your total cost
13:03.6
It's just too much
13:10.6
Foreign direct investments
13:13.8
Power outages happen
13:15.4
They will all leave
13:18.6
It is good for the Philippines
13:20.4
To have power crisis
13:22.4
For certain countries
13:24.3
Kung may power crisis tayo
13:25.4
May instability tayo
13:26.4
Kung may instability tayo
13:27.0
Bababa yung popularity ng gobyerno
13:30.3
Sino magbe-benefit
13:31.3
Kung bumaba yung popularity
13:33.3
Heartbeat away na lang yung isa
13:37.3
Some people like status quo
13:39.1
Because status quo means disaster
13:40.6
For the Philippines
13:43.1
It's a good news dun sa mga kabila
13:48.9
Inaway nyo kasing China
13:51.0
Let's surrender to them
13:51.9
And everything will be fine
13:53.1
That's where we're going
13:54.6
If we don't do anything drastic
13:59.8
We cannot get the gas
14:02.1
The economy will be devastated
14:05.5
President Bombo Marcos
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Will become very unpopular
14:20.1
So what you're saying is that
14:21.7
Soon we might find out
14:23.6
Some drastic moves
14:25.9
Unilaterally develop
14:28.3
Legitimately ours
14:29.9
In the sense that
14:31.7
Joint exploration
14:32.7
Joint development
14:35.8
Mukhang wala na yun
14:44.2
Later part of the
14:45.8
Duterte administration
14:51.8
But at the last minute
14:53.7
They wanted two things
14:57.2
Because the service contract
14:59.0
Says whereas the oil and gas
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Belong to the Philippines
15:02.1
They wanted that removed
15:04.6
The second provision
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They wanted removed
15:07.7
The service contract says
15:10.0
The contract should be governed
15:12.4
By Philippine law
15:13.3
They wanted that removed
15:15.5
They want us to violate
15:17.6
And they want to reverse
15:18.9
The arbitral award
15:22.1
We could not allow that
15:26.9
We are cautiously optimistic
15:30.3
Because we're just desperate
15:31.4
We lost all of those years
15:35.6
It's long overdue
15:38.3
It takes four years
15:41.1
In the second year
15:44.2
Marcos administration
15:46.9
If there is still no
15:48.8
Light at the end of the tunnel
15:53.4
Whoever is a candidate
15:57.3
Will have a hard time
16:03.7
This will help the other side
16:05.1
Especially the pro-China side
16:08.5
China is fighting
16:10.9
Of Degong co-ownership
16:13.7
The conjugal understanding
16:15.1
I really don't know
16:17.6
That's why it's very important
16:21.7
Because we lost all those years
16:23.8
There's gonna be a transitional phase
16:25.4
That's a bit painful
16:27.6
The damage has been quite done
16:29.1
It's just a matter of making sure
16:30.3
We don't have a region
16:34.8
Because it takes four years
16:35.9
To develop Ritbang
16:40.8
That we are getting the gas
16:42.5
Will be happy already
16:47.5
That can be raised
16:49.0
That he wasted so many years
16:50.3
He didn't develop the area
16:51.6
He allowed himself
16:56.2
Useless negotiations
16:58.0
China will never agree
17:00.8
Expansive illegal claims
17:03.4
Two years probably
17:04.4
So wala na tayong
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I mean Justice Carpio
17:08.0
The reason I keep on asking
17:09.5
About this is because
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Parang napansin ko
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Kunti lang tao may alam dito
17:15.2
Pinag-uusapan ito
17:16.2
Parang tayo-tayo lang
17:17.7
Ukol dito sa Ritbang issue
17:20.4
May pagkakulang ang gobyerno?
17:23.3
Kasi malaking bagay
17:31.0
So they're trying to
17:40.0
If you have to import LNG
17:42.0
Inflation will shoot up
17:44.1
Power rates will shoot up
17:45.8
If we don't import
17:50.8
Of brownout every day
17:56.2
That we will suffer
17:57.3
Because it will take
17:58.3
Four years to develop Ritbang
17:59.9
If we can get the gas
18:01.9
We're starting to develop it
18:03.3
At least there's light
18:04.3
At the end of the tunnel
18:06.1
And if there is hope
18:08.2
You can have a bright future
18:10.7
Hold on to something
18:12.4
Hold on to something
18:14.2
There will be relief soon
18:17.7
We cannot even start
18:19.5
Surveying and drilling
18:22.4
We're in a dead end
18:24.4
We have really to import LNG
18:26.1
Which is the only solution
18:29.0
Our power rates will shoot up
18:30.8
Inflation will go through the roof
18:32.8
And it will be terrible
18:36.1
It will be terrible
18:38.7
And for our people
18:41.3
Thank you very much
18:43.5
Do we need to be quiet?
18:45.7
Because for all we know
18:46.6
Maybe the government wants
18:47.7
To quietly address this
18:50.3
In terms of optics
18:52.3
We just do the right thing quietly
18:54.2
Like our neighbors
18:54.8
Don't you think maybe
18:55.5
I know there's a lot of people
18:56.7
I know they're preparing
18:57.9
They're preparing
19:01.4
The joint patrols
19:02.8
Started off the coast of Palawan
19:04.5
Moving towards the
19:09.3
You just have to assume
19:12.1
If they're moving
19:17.1
We're in a big, big trouble
19:19.8
I mean they would be so incompetent
19:22.1
If they're not moving now
19:24.0
Medyo suicidal na politically
19:25.6
And potentially economically
19:26.9
No movies made on that
19:29.4
So maybe there is a logic
19:33.4
Not much smoke coming out
19:35.5
And that fire of looming energy crisis
19:37.7
If hindi ma-develop yung Reedbank
19:39.2
Now Justice Corey
19:40.1
Pag-usapan naman natin yung
19:41.9
Baha with the Masin-Lok
19:43.3
Actually the other day
19:45.2
I had an interview with
19:47.7
And his position is
19:50.4
Honestly I've heard like 12 versions
19:52.6
But his version is
19:55.6
Dunsa mutual disengagement
19:57.3
Should stop the Philippines
19:58.8
From challenging China's
20:01.0
Tenuous administrative
20:04.4
China has not reclaimed yet
20:06.0
Scarborough Shoal
20:06.7
They have no military facilities there
20:18.0
I'm not even sure
20:19.0
If I can call it occupation
20:20.1
A tenuous encirclement
20:22.0
Of Scarborough Shoal
20:25.6
We haven't talked about as much
20:28.2
Feel free to share your point of view
20:29.9
But ang inisip ko is
20:30.9
Baka naman sa Scarborough Shoal
20:32.3
We also have to make some moves there
20:33.7
Hindi naman na-reclaim yan eh
20:35.9
Nakatinggal lang tayo
20:36.8
Hindi lang natin ma-reclaim yan
20:40.1
China surrounded Scarborough Shoal
20:43.6
With their maritime militia
20:47.6
They are in actual control
20:50.1
But they have not erected
20:52.1
Any structure there
20:55.6
Declaration of Conduct
20:58.1
Which prohibits the
20:59.6
Occupation of unoccupied features
21:02.5
You cannot inhabit
21:03.9
Uninhabited features as of
21:06.9
So they don't want to break that
21:09.6
Code of Conduct yet
21:13.2
They're not ready to break that
21:18.2
Lahat ng mga ibang ginawa nila
21:19.7
Because they already
21:20.4
Occupied those other features
21:22.4
Before the declaration
21:24.5
So they're kind of like
21:28.0
They're trying to
21:33.7
They are in possession
21:34.8
Because they've surrounded it
21:36.2
That's what they did also
21:39.1
They've surrounded it
21:40.2
But they have not built
21:41.4
And what they're doing
21:43.2
Slowly they're adding
21:44.8
They're adding sand
21:48.7
Sand decay from being
21:52.5
Of sea level rise
21:54.4
The action of the waves
21:57.9
For one reason or another
22:02.7
Declaration of Conduct
22:05.3
What we should do
22:09.0
The arbitral tribunal again
22:10.6
Because that's a common fishing ground
22:13.0
And to have a common fishing ground
22:15.0
You must have common ground rules
22:16.5
And China refuses to sit down with us
22:19.1
So we go to the tribunal
22:21.2
You declared this is a common
22:24.8
Common fishing rules
22:27.1
These are our proposal
22:28.3
And we want this to be approved
22:34.8
China will not appear
22:36.6
Vietnam will appear
22:37.8
Because Vietnam is also
22:39.7
To the common fishing
22:43.6
Then we will have
22:44.4
We will have another
22:46.4
And the world will rally
22:48.3
Behind that arbitral award again
22:49.9
Because that's the rule of law
22:54.9
So we keep on piling
23:04.7
In the South China Sea
23:12.5
We were all together
23:14.1
In the conferences
23:16.3
He was there in Oxford
23:18.7
And I was seated together with him
23:25.2
Nationalists invented
23:27.6
The nine-dash line
23:28.7
But they claim only the islands
23:30.8
It was Wu Shikun who said
23:32.6
We will claim also the waters
23:34.3
Beyond the territorial sea
23:38.4
The nine-dash line
23:39.5
Is their national boundary
23:40.7
And everything enclosed
23:42.2
Is their national territory
23:44.7
For the longest time
23:46.4
They said that the
23:47.3
Arbitral award of July 2016
23:51.7
But now he admitted
23:54.0
Despite everything
23:56.7
The arbitral award
23:58.6
Had a negative impact
24:01.9
A negative impact
24:03.6
That can never be erased anymore
24:09.8
Will create a domino effect
24:11.8
Other ASEAN countries will follow
24:14.6
The rest of the world will
24:23.4
To his government
24:25.2
Please stop the Philippines
24:27.5
From filing another case
24:28.8
Can you just imagine that
24:31.5
We file another case
24:35.2
Pile up our awards
24:36.8
Our arbitral awards
24:38.2
And the rest of the world
24:40.4
That's the rule of law
24:41.7
So we should file
24:45.8
To file a second case
24:47.1
For the destruction
24:48.7
Of the marine environment
24:50.0
In the Skoda shore
24:53.8
The common fishing ground rules
24:58.1
Scarborough shore
25:00.9
The dangerous maneuvers
25:17.2
Second arbitration case
25:18.8
And they are in dread
25:23.8
If people like Trillianis
25:26.4
That perhaps the way forward
25:27.5
Is to challenge them
25:29.2
Through naval force
25:30.7
What you're saying
25:33.4
Is the next way forward
25:34.4
Although of course
25:34.8
I don't see necessarily
25:35.6
Those two mutual exclusive
25:36.9
We can sequence that
25:39.1
An additional one
25:41.0
Compliant in China
25:42.1
Then the law is on our side
25:43.5
Then we can challenge it
25:46.0
I'm an enforcement
25:46.7
Compliance enforcement
25:48.4
Capacity in courts
25:49.3
But if the law is on our side
25:50.8
Then the international community
25:53.1
Will be on our side
25:53.8
If ever we want to enforce it
25:55.2
Together with Vietnam
25:56.2
And other countries
25:56.9
Who also have shared interests
25:59.2
Because my status
26:02.8
China is just encircling
26:03.9
Nothing is happening
26:04.7
I mean it's just frozen
26:05.7
It's a frozen conflict
26:10.8
This is an indignity to us
26:13.5
I mean we are being
26:17.7
So what are we doing
26:19.2
You know that was the case
26:22.0
That was the situation
26:30.4
He was the commander in chief
26:32.3
Philippine territory
26:34.5
Because that's territory
26:38.0
You send your navy
26:43.8
We were outnumbered
26:48.8
20 Chinese vessels
26:51.1
One of our vessels
26:52.6
He had to do something
26:58.6
The arbitration case
26:59.8
We are in the same situation
27:01.4
We have to do something
27:03.0
Because otherwise
27:04.1
The people will say
27:05.7
Binububog na lang tayo
27:09.9
So we have to do something
27:11.7
We have to file a case
27:17.0
Is being hurt now
27:20.7
It's like we are being
27:23.0
And we just offer
27:26.0
We will file another case
27:29.3
That filing of another case
27:31.2
We will do exactly
27:38.3
Both Commodore Tariela
27:44.0
We have to be David
27:46.3
But David was smaller
27:48.1
But hindi siya kawawa
27:51.4
He had the weapons
27:53.1
You know what I'm saying?
27:54.7
Ang problema dito is
27:55.8
Misa mukha tayong kawawa
27:57.3
Hindi tayong mukhang
27:57.9
Underdog na may laban
27:59.7
We remind the world na
28:02.4
At may laban tayo dito
28:03.4
Because this is also
28:04.1
Psychological warfare
28:07.4
If you just put it
28:11.1
Is a rallying point
28:13.7
Of all the naval powers
28:16.9
Because of that award
28:18.6
That's the symbol
28:19.5
Of international law
28:20.6
They want to preserve that
28:25.0
Their support for us
28:26.2
Because if we go there
28:27.8
To Scarborough Shoal
28:33.0
They will be in a
28:35.0
It's the right thing to do
28:39.3
The arbitral tribunal
28:40.6
Then they will be
28:43.9
International law
28:53.7
International order
28:56.2
That we might go for
28:58.8
You are supporting of it
29:01.1
And when it comes to
29:03.4
Technically you're different
29:04.4
But ICC is also about
29:06.4
Rules based international order
29:08.0
That you cannot just go
29:09.5
Your own citizens
29:10.3
So don't you think
29:12.1
An alignment there
29:13.0
Whereby you cannot
29:14.4
Because that's what
29:15.9
China is pick and choosing
29:18.2
To have the moral ascendancy
29:19.3
You want the international
29:20.4
Community behind you
29:22.0
That you're consistently
29:24.6
International order
29:27.5
International humanitarian law
29:29.3
United Nations Convention
29:30.6
I mean this is where
29:32.0
A little bit tricky
29:33.1
If the Marcos administration
29:34.8
Continues with its current
29:38.6
I think there will be
29:44.5
Against all of them
29:46.4
Including the vice president
29:48.1
Because she is also
29:49.8
Being named there
29:54.9
Of the government
29:55.6
Could still change
29:58.4
As being set in stone
30:03.7
I mean let's be honest
30:04.7
I think it's more like
30:07.8
What Duterte is doing
30:10.4
Is threatening the president
30:11.8
The incumbent president
30:12.9
And you just don't threaten
30:14.5
The incumbent president
30:20.8
In a rally against
30:22.5
You don't do that
30:25.0
He is the sitting president
30:29.7
Against the president
30:32.0
Do it the legal way
30:33.9
But do not threaten him
30:41.5
You know what he said
30:42.9
In his conference
30:44.2
There might something there
30:46.1
That we could implode
30:55.7
Or something worse
31:04.0
Of China nowadays
31:05.6
San gali yung tapang na yan
31:07.3
To challenge Marcos
31:09.5
May amo sila na malakas
31:11.0
Na sumusuporta sa kanya
31:13.2
In that situation
31:15.1
The lines are clear
31:17.1
Are we still pretending
31:18.6
Everything is normal
31:19.6
Factional politics
31:33.9
Because if you are
31:38.7
Our sovereign rights
31:52.6
The Maisug rallies
31:54.0
Is supposed to be
31:54.8
Their nationwide rallies
32:08.1
In the South China
32:11.6
Island territories
32:12.9
And maritime zones
32:14.0
It's the only country
32:16.1
That is invading us
32:17.6
The dispute really
32:19.5
Is between the Philippines
32:28.3
Because it's our treaty ally
32:29.5
Because we cannot
32:33.1
But that's what China wants
32:37.9
And that's exactly
32:42.7
We don't have a fight
32:46.0
Can you just imagine
32:51.8
From the South China Sea
32:55.4
Becomes the national boundary
33:00.6
It will be part of the
33:05.6
It's as simple as that
33:08.9
But if China today
33:12.4
Under international law
33:13.6
There is no more dispute
33:21.7
Our exclusive economic zone
33:24.5
The gas in RID Bank
33:25.5
Which is within our EEZ
33:34.5
That's forcing us
33:36.6
Help from our allies
33:39.0
Our hands is forced
33:40.2
We are being defensive
33:42.7
I think the president
33:43.5
Wants to hear about it
33:47.3
To ask the support
33:51.3
China against the Philippines
33:52.7
And it's no match
33:53.9
We won't last a day
33:57.9
May nagsis circulate
34:01.7
Yung sinabi ko na
34:03.0
Ilong ka na itong
34:04.9
I'll send you another link
34:06.1
Because I want to have
34:06.8
A short follow-up
34:09.7
And Kibuloy and all
34:18.1
Ang bilis ng 40 minutes
34:25.0
It's a picture of
34:27.8
Yung ibang ASEAN countries
34:34.1
Yung sa taas naman
34:35.3
They're trying to
34:37.3
Habang yung Pilipinas
34:39.4
In a water cannon
34:42.3
Essentially the idea is that
34:44.8
The ASEAN is fiddling
34:46.4
While we're in a water cannon
34:48.8
Yung mga ibang bansa
34:50.4
Pilipinas and all
34:52.4
To a certain degree
34:53.5
I think we can talk
34:54.4
A little bit about that more
34:56.6
Before we close this
34:57.7
And then open another
34:59.9
To discuss a little bit more
35:01.1
Should we realistically
35:04.2
Hindi natin maasa
35:06.6
To really be on their side
35:07.6
Kasi I keep on hearing
35:09.3
Hindi naman pro-China
35:11.2
Anti-America sila
35:13.1
Dun na tayo sa ASEAN
35:15.0
ASEAN is practically
35:17.9
What other evidence
35:21.8
But not on this one
35:23.3
I mean let's just be realistic
35:25.6
All those who are not involved
35:27.6
All those who are not
35:29.3
Prejudiced by the 9-dash line
35:33.8
We cannot expect them
35:37.0
They're getting loans
35:38.2
Investments from China
35:39.5
That's their number one
35:44.6
That are similarly
35:50.0
Brunei is too small
35:52.3
To make a difference
35:54.0
And even the Malaysia
35:55.2
Is a bit questionable
35:57.1
I'll send you the new link
36:05.4
They were able to survey
36:07.6
And that's why Anwar said
36:09.0
We don't have a problem
36:10.7
Because they already
36:14.5
Thank you so much
36:15.9
I'll get back to you
36:16.9
Paobos na itong link natin
36:18.4
I'll send you a link
36:19.6
My apologies for that
36:21.9
I'll get back to you
36:22.8
Because we need the last part
36:23.9
Dito sa episode natin
36:24.9
To discuss a little bit more
36:26.8
And then a little bit about
36:28.8
To close off this
36:30.2
Thank you very much Justice
