00:44.3
Dapat ano yun eh, no?
00:47.7
To be or not to be.
00:50.0
Pero pogo or no pogo?
00:58.2
Nagukuluhan din talaga ako dito.
01:00.0
Sa ating mga legislators, yung mga senator natin,
01:05.6
tsaka yung mga House of Representatives.
01:07.9
Kung ano ang punto talaga nila dito sa pogo, mga kapatid natin.
01:12.9
Ito, mga kapatid natin, balita sa inquire.net.
01:15.8
Sabi niya, Solon's Air Mixed Views on Pogo Regulation Ban.
01:23.6
So, ngayon, talagang ang lakan ng problema nila.
01:26.1
Ang problema nila, paano i-regulate ito?
01:30.0
Para hindi na maging, ano, no, hindi na bugbogan, no?
01:38.2
Ang panluloko sa mamamayang Pilipino.
01:45.2
Tapos, hindi na maging kuta ng mga kriminal na gawain.
01:53.7
Tignan nyo kasi mga kabatas natin, no?
01:55.4
Sabi dito, Manila, Philippines.
01:58.9
Several members of the House of Representatives,
01:59.9
the House of Representatives,
02:01.7
aired contrasting opinions on Speaker Ferdinand Martin Romualde's
02:07.0
recent statements about Philippine offshore gaming operators.
02:14.4
Di ba may bagong pangalan nito?
02:20.5
Mga kapatid natin,
02:23.6
ano ba yung posisyon kasi ni Speaker Martin Romualde dito?
02:28.0
Parang pro-pogo yata siya.
02:33.0
Pro-pogo ba siya?
02:35.2
Sino yun yung naka-antabay o nakapanood ng kanyang statement?
02:41.7
Iba na yung, hindi na pogo ang pangalan nito, eh.
02:44.9
Gustong i-rename ng Pagkor, eh.
02:47.5
Ano na yung pangalan na gusto nilang maging ng pogo na sinabi ng Pagkor?
02:53.4
Anti-pogo ba siya?
02:57.3
Anti-pogo ba siya?
02:59.9
Hindi yata anti-pogo, eh.
03:05.6
Sabi ni Rico, yes, attorney, regulate lang.
03:08.7
Okay yata sa kanya yung pogo, eh.
03:10.7
Pero regulate lang ang gusto niya.
03:14.7
Sa Maykabite, yung pogo isang isla.
03:20.0
Baka naman pwede mong bisitahin yan.
03:27.6
Internet Gaming License.
03:36.9
With one supporting his suggestion of regulating the industry rather than totally banning it.
03:44.7
So, ito nga, mga kabatas natin, no.
03:46.5
Itong si Martin Rimualdes, ang kanyang gustong mangyari ay i-regulate lang yung pogo at hindi ito i-ban.
03:54.0
Sangayon ba kayo doon?
03:56.1
Mga kabatas natin, malaking problema din yan, eh.
03:59.9
Kapag ang gusto mo lang gawin dyan, ay i-regulate.
04:04.2
Kasi nga, mga kabatas natin, ang nangyayari dito,
04:09.2
ngayon, sa Pilipinas, as far as pogo is concerned, it is being regulated.
04:17.7
Kasi nga, meron na siyang license, di ba?
04:23.7
Yung pag-core, ang regulating body ng pogo.
04:29.9
mga kabatas natin, no,
04:32.9
nire-regulate na yan.
04:34.4
So, hindi ko maintindihan yung punto dito ni Speaker Ferdinand Martin Rimualdes,
04:40.2
mga kabatas natin,
04:42.4
i-regulate lang yung industry.
04:46.3
Eh, of course, regulated yan.
04:50.1
So, because it's already regulated,
04:52.6
and even if it's regulated,
04:56.3
it still is regulated.
04:59.9
Causing so many problems.
05:04.9
Is regulation still
05:19.0
Ngayon, nire-regulate na yung pogo.
05:21.3
So, yung solusyon mo, yung ginagawa na,
05:28.7
parang ganito, ha?
05:29.9
Papaliwanag ko sa inyo.
05:32.9
May tagas sa bubong.
05:35.8
Tumutulo pag umuulan.
05:41.4
doon sa bubong mo,
05:43.1
dahil may tumutagas at umuulan,
05:45.8
pinatungan mo ng nyero.
05:48.3
Tapos, pinatungan mo ng hollow blocks.
05:52.9
Pagkatapos mong gawin yun,
05:59.9
So, sasabihin mo ulit.
06:06.2
Patungan ulit natin ng nyero at hollow blocks?
06:17.3
Ito kasing sinasabi nila.
06:21.2
Malaki kasing pre-incent dati
06:23.5
na malaki ang effect sa revenues natin
06:25.8
kapag tinanggal completely ang pogo.
06:31.3
Actually, dyan din ako papuntay.
06:33.2
Dyan din ako papuntay.
06:36.5
Kailan nagumpisa ang pogo?
06:40.0
Before there was pogo,
06:43.0
how was our economic growth?
06:47.1
Kumusta yung paglaki ng ating GDP?
06:51.0
Kumusta yung pag-unlad ng ating bansa?
06:59.9
Nung in-introduce ang pogo,
07:03.8
kumusta yung pag-unlad ng ating bansa?
07:09.4
Kumusta yung ating GDP?
07:18.5
Pinag-aralan natin yung GDP natin, di ba?
07:22.5
kung paano ito lumalago.
07:28.3
There is nothing significant.
07:29.9
That pogo contributed.
07:31.8
Totoo, may kinikita tayo dyan.
07:37.2
saan ba napupunta yung kinikita natin dyan?
07:42.0
Sabi ni Teacher Mark,
07:43.8
revenues natin o nila,
07:54.4
Yan ba ang significant?
07:56.6
Assistant Secretary Sarah Lynn Dawai-Ducanes,
07:59.6
said their estimates show that
08:01.4
Pogo so far have contributed
08:02.9
P53.1 billion in 2022
08:05.3
which is 0.31% of the Philippines
08:07.7
gross domestic product.
08:14.5
saan ba napupunta yung pera na yan?
08:20.2
And, ladies and gentlemen,
08:29.6
Tandaan nyo, mga kabatas natin ha.
08:33.9
Ang basihan dyan.
08:41.2
Hindi siya 31%, ha.
08:52.0
wala na ba tayong ibang makuhanan
08:53.9
ng maayos na revenue
08:59.2
Kundi yung mga ganyang Pogo
09:01.3
na ang daming problema
09:02.7
with the real estate?
09:06.9
Isa pa kasutok, mga kabatas natin.
09:08.9
Yang mga Pogo na yan,
09:10.2
mga kabatas natin,
09:11.8
nung nagkaroon ng ganyan,
09:13.4
dahil malaking magbayad yung mga Pogo,
09:16.0
yung mga lugar kung saan
09:18.1
nagkaroon ng Pogo,
09:33.3
ng normal na Pilipino.
09:35.4
At yung pagtaas na yun,
09:44.0
Kasi nga, mga kabatas natin,
09:46.2
hindi naman lumalaki
09:47.7
yung sahod ng ordinaryong Pilipino.
09:54.6
ng mga taga Pogo,
09:56.2
kaya kaya nilang bayaran.
10:04.7
Artificial lang yun.
10:07.7
Hindi talaga nakakatulong yun sa
10:09.9
ordinaryong mamamayan Pilipino.
10:14.7
So, sasabihin nila,
10:16.2
53.1 billion pa rin yan.
10:26.3
Pero, 0.31% lang.
10:36.3
noong wala tayong 53.1 billion
10:39.3
na nanggagaling dyan,
10:41.3
wala tayong problema.
10:46.3
we can live without it.
10:52.3
We can live without it.
11:01.3
Economics like Prof. Sara Linde Guaidocanis argue,
11:04.3
the contribution is much smaller,
11:06.3
closer to 0.2% in 2023
11:09.3
and has been declining since its peak
11:19.3
Di ba lagi kung sinasabi sa inyong mga kabatas natin,
11:21.3
yung matulog ng mahimbing
11:23.3
dahil alam natin na yung natutulog ng mahimbing,
11:25.3
siya yung lagi yung panalo.
11:32.3
ang sinasabi niyo ba,
11:35.3
okay lang na huwag matulog ng mahimbing?
11:38.3
Okay lang na may kriminalidad na nangyayari sa paligid?
11:43.3
Okay lang na mayroong pogo na yan?
11:49.3
noong wala naman yan,
11:52.3
nakaakibat yung mga problema na yan,
11:54.3
ay we're doing fine.
12:04.3
May makukuha naman tayo sa ibang paraan,
12:06.3
huwag na yung pogo, daming problema.
12:15.3
ng murang sasakyan.
12:18.3
Nakatipig ka. May pera ka.
12:20.3
Ano bang murang sasakyan ngayon?
12:24.3
Ang dami, ang dami murang sasakyan ngayon eh.
12:28.3
Hindi lang ako magbibungkit ng pangalan.
12:30.3
Pero maraming lumalabas sa TikTok.
12:32.3
Nakatipig ka. Nagkaroon ka ng pera.
12:40.3
babayaran mo sa sasakyan na ganyan.
12:42.3
Binayaran mo lang dyan,
12:46.3
Ang layo ng diferensya,
12:50.3
May pera ka dahil dyan.
12:55.3
panay naman problema.
13:03.3
Sira ito, sira yan.
13:05.3
Panay ang pakasa mo.
13:15.3
Mas maganda nung nagkocommute ka.
13:17.3
Kasi nung nagkocommute ka,
13:19.3
at least hindi tumitirik yung sasakyan mo.
13:21.3
At least hindi ka laging nagpapakasa.
13:23.3
At nagpapaayos ng sasakyan.
13:25.3
At least bawas abala.
13:27.3
At least bawas abala.
13:38.3
So, yun ang problema.
13:40.3
So, yun ang problema.
13:42.3
We were okay without it.
13:44.3
We were okay without it.
13:46.3
We were okay without it.
13:49.3
Ngayon, nag-adapt tayo ng problema.
13:52.7
May pera nga, pero may problema din.
13:56.5
At mas malaki ang problema.
14:01.8
Sabi ni Kagraray Island,
14:04.9
51B nga ang kinikita sa Pogo,
14:07.2
pero magkano na din kayang nagagasto sa kakahiring ng Senado patungkol sa issue na yan?
14:17.0
We were okay without it. We didn't have problems.
14:24.9
And one thing is for sure, ang dami kasing kumikita dito.
14:29.9
Pero, another thing is for sure,
14:36.0
hindi karamihan ng tao nakikinabang dito.
14:41.9
It's easy to earn money from gambling.
14:47.0
From illegal schemes.
14:51.2
Kaya madaling magbayad yung mga yan.
14:54.4
Ng mga pansuhol nila.
14:58.7
Mas malaki ang ill effects ng Pogo compared sa revenue na dala nito.
15:11.3
Bakit ayaw niyong iban?
15:13.6
In a statement Thursday night,
15:15.6
Albay 2nd District Representative,
15:17.0
Joey Salceda said he agrees with Romualdez
15:19.6
that a total ban on Pogos would be detrimental.
15:26.3
Bakit detrimental?
15:30.6
Congressman Joey Salceda, alam mo ba ibig sabihin ng detrimental?
15:35.9
O, i-Google natin ha?
15:38.6
Para hindi naman tayo nag-i-invento.
15:40.9
Search Google for detrimental.
15:47.0
Tending to cause harm.
15:56.3
Mayor Salcedo, ay, Mayor,
15:57.9
Congressman Salcedo,
15:59.6
ang ibig sabihin ng detrimental
16:01.4
is tending to cause harm.
16:06.0
Oxford Languages Dictionary yan.
16:09.1
O, ano sinabi mo?
16:17.0
Hindi ba detrimental na ngayon yun?
16:20.5
Kaya natin ibaban?
16:23.6
Ibang klase rin talaga yun.
16:32.8
This would affect legal Pogos.
16:38.1
Concern ba talaga yan?
16:47.0
Tapos, tignan nyo ang dahilan niya.
16:49.7
Yung mga legal Pogos na which have been tipping the government about non-compliant operators.
16:57.9
So, may utang na loob tayo sa kanila.
17:05.2
Kasi sila yung nagtitip doon sa mga non-compliant.
17:08.8
Pero ito, pag binan natin yan,
17:12.3
eh, hindi ko talaga maintindihan yung utak ni Joey Salcedo din eh.
17:15.6
Ni congressman eh.
17:17.0
Pag binan natin yan,
17:19.3
kailangan pa ba natin mag-tip?
17:22.0
Ay, kailangan pa ba natin ng tip?
17:31.3
Kasi iligal na lahat eh.
17:34.0
Hindi na natin kailangan ng tip.
17:36.5
Kasi once may Pogo, iligal na agad.
17:39.2
Wala nang problema.
17:39.7
Wala nang problema.
17:47.0
So, this is a joke.
17:56.8
Ah, sige, sige. Magpaliwanag ka pa.
18:00.7
Magpaliwanag ka pa.
18:03.2
the government should not introduce a Pogo ban.
18:08.9
It will kill any inducement to good behavior in that sector.
18:12.6
Are you listening to yourself?
18:17.0
What do you mean by it will kill any inducement to good behavior in that sector?
18:27.6
It will also completely wipe out the incentive for legally compliant licenses
18:32.4
to tip off illegal operations of non-compliant competitors.
18:36.8
Yun talagang pinipilit niyo eh.
18:42.3
Napag binan niyo yan, wala na mag-tip sa atin ng iligal na Pogo.
18:47.0
Pag-band na yan, wala nang Pogo.
18:56.0
Just like before.
19:01.6
Just like before.
19:03.1
Just like before.
19:03.2
Ah, ito. May example siya.
19:20.0
In the tobacco sector, a lot of tips on smuggling and illicit trade come from tax-compliant companies.
19:26.2
The same is true for Pogo.
19:28.2
It's a bad idea to even contemplate a total ban.
19:31.9
Yung tip lang talaga?
19:33.2
Yung tip lang talaga?
19:45.0
Just the tip na sabi niyo.
19:49.3
May problema tayo dyan sa just the tip na yan.
19:55.6
Isipin mo, ang dami-dami mong pwedeng sabihin
20:05.2
Pero, it's just the tip.
20:17.8
Sa tobacco sector, kinumpara niya.
20:20.5
Alam niyo mga kabatas natin,
20:22.8
nagtrabaho si Atty. Magalong noon sa mga ganyan eh.
20:28.7
Hindi sa just the tip.
20:30.1
Sa tobacco sector, diba?
20:31.9
Nanghuli kayo ng mga iligal.
20:36.9
Nagtrabaho siya noon sa isang kumpanyang gano'n.
20:40.0
Alam niyo ang dahilan kung bakit itong mga
20:44.1
nasa tobacco sector, nagbibigay ng tip?
20:50.0
Kasi nga, bawas sa kikitain nila yun.
20:57.1
Kasi, siyempre, pag imbes na bibili ka ng original na Malboro,
21:01.4
bili ka nalang ng peke.
21:03.4
O kaya, smuggled. Mas mura.
21:08.4
Ops, sandali. My battery is running low.
21:11.4
Sandali, sandali.
21:14.4
Bakit hindi nakasaksak ko?
21:17.4
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
21:19.4
Excuse me. Excuse me lang.
21:31.4
Ayan, mas okay na.
21:47.4
Oo, kasi naka-laptop lang ako ngayon.
21:53.4
Balik tayo dun sa sinabi ko.
21:59.4
Balik tayo dun sa sinabi ko.
22:01.4
Ire-report talaga nila yun.
22:04.4
Kasi kalaban yun eh.
22:06.4
It will directly affect their product.
22:10.4
Because they have the same product.
22:16.4
ang laki ng market ng pasugalan.
22:25.4
Na kahit ilang sugal at ilang kasino, sabihin na lang natin,
22:28.4
sa Las Vegas, ang dami-daming kasino dun.
22:34.4
Tignan nyo kung gaano kalago yung mga negosyo nun
22:40.4
na magkakatabi na kasino na pasugalan.
22:44.4
It's different from tobacco.
22:51.4
Kasi pag tobacco, pag bumili siya ng tobacco sa isa,
22:55.4
bawas sa kita niya yun.
22:57.4
Kasi hindi nabibili sa kanya.
22:58.4
Kasi bumili na siya ng iligal o ispagal.
23:10.4
Kasi yung nagsusugal,
23:20.4
Yung tobacco, you can only smoke
23:24.4
a number of cigarettes at the same time.
23:28.4
You can only smoke one cigarette at the same time.
23:41.4
Tignan nyo dyan sa Pasay.
23:45.4
Bakit sunod-sunod pa rin yung mga nagpapatayo dyan?
23:48.4
Bakit sunod-sunod pa rin yung mga nagpapatayo dyan?
23:50.4
Bakit sunod-sunod pa rin yung mga nagpapatayo dyan?
23:52.4
Nang kasino, kahit magkakatabi.
23:57.4
Kasi hindi ganun ang competition nila.
24:03.4
Parang sigarilyo.
24:07.4
Bad idea lang sabi niya.
24:16.4
Ang dahilan niya lang yung tip.
24:18.4
It's just the tip.
24:20.4
It's just the tip.
24:22.4
Salceda also echoed Romualdez's fears
24:24.4
Salceda also echoed Romualdez's fears
24:26.4
that pago operators may go underground
24:27.4
that pago operators may go underground
24:29.4
if a ban is imposed,
24:30.4
making the company more prone to illegal activities.
24:32.4
making the company more prone to illegal activities.
24:41.4
Anong punto mo na naman dito?
24:44.4
Anong punto mo na naman dito?
24:49.4
It does not have any difference at all
24:57.3
If they went underground
24:58.8
Once they operate
25:00.4
And you see that it is pogo
25:03.1
You can read it because it's illegal
25:14.2
Pogos are avoidable
25:15.7
200 pesos per day lang Yossi
25:33.9
Sa casino per minute, Libo
25:41.3
Sabi niya, here in Japan
25:42.6
Most of the Japanese people are addicted to pachinko
25:45.7
But I think it's controlled by the government
25:47.7
But we don't have casinos here
25:50.1
The pachinko is different from pogo
25:59.0
Usually, ang pinapatakbo nila dyan
26:03.2
Sugal sa ibang bansa
26:07.6
Online sugal sa ibang bansa
26:10.2
Yun yung legal ha
26:11.3
Pero yung mga illegal
26:12.9
Nagpapatakbo ng online sugal
26:14.7
Dito sa Pilipinas
26:17.5
Tapos ang empleyado ng mga yan
26:24.3
Mga inchik karamihan
26:26.1
Pero ito lang yung dahilan nila
26:34.5
It's more prone to illegal activities
26:36.7
Pero it's already prone to illegal activities
26:43.7
O, tignan mo, tignan mo
26:46.5
Even if you ban pogo completely
26:48.5
You will continue to face the kind of problems
26:51.4
That cause any illegal foreign operators
26:54.3
Porous immigration
26:56.0
Poorly equipped intelligence
26:57.6
Infiltration capabilities
26:59.8
That does not speak Chinese
27:01.2
Speculative eh, no?
27:15.7
The problem was never mainly the Pagkor
27:20.2
Regime of the tax impor-
27:25.2
The problem was never mainly the Pagkor
27:27.7
Regime or the tax enforcement
27:31.2
So ano ang problema?
27:34.2
So gusto mong i-regulate
27:35.2
So paano mo i-re-regulate?
27:37.2
Nire-regulate mo ngayon
27:38.2
Wala naman nangyayari
27:45.7
In an interview to the Radio Invención Romaldez said he is okay with the crackdown on illegal pogos as those engaging in illicit and unlawful activities must be banned from operating in the country
28:00.8
However, he said the total ban on pogos might only lead to these businesses moving underground
28:05.5
At least underground sila
28:09.3
And I'm sure if they are underground, mababawasan yan kasi nagtatago sila
28:14.7
Kesa yung isla nila, kasi nagtatago sila
28:15.7
Kasi nila isla at ang lalaki na nandodon sa likod ng munisipyo
28:18.8
At least underground, baguhukay pa sila doon sa underground
28:25.4
Alam ko hindi literal na underground yun kayo naman
28:31.8
Kesa naman ngayon nasa likod ng munisipyo
28:38.6
Nasa isla, sa kabite
28:41.3
At least underground
28:45.7
Sige nga, vote nga tayo
28:50.8
Mas mahirap kumita pag nagtatago
28:53.9
I-press nyo nga yung 1 pag gusto nyo maban yung pogo
29:07.3
Wag kayo mag-press ng kahit ano kung ano ayaw nyo maban ng pogo
29:11.7
Kung gusto nyo maban, mag-press kayo ng pogo
29:15.7
Pag ayaw nyo maban yung pogo
29:31.8
O yan o, puro 1 o
29:36.0
Kasi yung mga ano, hindi nag-press
29:49.7
Alisbubo says no, o, syempre
30:06.7
Mga active church, blablabla, ayaw daw nila
30:11.7
The social costs of pogos have outweighed the benefits of any.
30:14.7
Ito, mga active church, blablabla, ayaw daw nila. The social costs of pogos have outweighed the benefits of any.
30:19.9
Rosie, please, O my god
30:22.7
O, workers need decent jobs
30:31.8
Yun lang, mga kabatid natin
30:33.8
Tuloy na lang natin itong susunod kasi 30 minutes na tayo
30:36.9
…Maraming salamat po sa inyo
30:38.2
Kaya tulad lang nag saving at natatuloy po tayo ng maimbing dahil na twenge na natutuloy ng maimbing Siya yung laging panalo
30:43.7
…Maraming salamat po sa inyo … At mag tuloy po tayo ng maimbing dahil na natutuloy ng maimbing Siya yung laging panayo
