01:08.1
So, namanood ako in particular about Iman Khalif. And si Iman Khalif, ang tanong natin is lalaki ba siya o babae?
01:16.2
And this will most likely apply to Lynn Yuting as well. Pero I just want to focus in on Iman Khalif.
01:23.2
So, Iman Khalif was born a female.
01:25.3
Now, nung sinasabi ng mga tao that proves she's a female, remember that when you're born a female, that's your what they call sex by assignment at birth.
01:37.6
Okay. Assignment by birth yan. And the way to check the sex of a baby or a newborn is through a visual inspection of your external genitalia.
01:50.3
Yun lang. Titignan lang nila kung ano yung genitalia mo. Malalaman na agad kung lalaki ka ba.
01:55.3
O babae. Now, this is 99.95% accurate. In other words, kung ano yung nakita nila through external genitalia, 99.95% of the time, tama yun.
02:09.5
Here's where the problem lies. There is 0.005% chance na hindi tama yung pagka-identify o yung pagka-assign na sex at birth
02:22.5
kung based on the genitalia.
02:25.3
Okay. 0.005% which is 1 in every 2,000 visual inspections of a newborn baby. Okay. So, in that case, doon nagkakaroon ng mga problema. 1 in every 2,000 yan.
02:41.2
And it's not very common. Ngayon, nung imagine lang natin si Iman Khalif was assigned a female at birth based on that visual inspection.
02:52.0
And then, remember ha, most children,
02:55.3
will grow up before puberty, you won't really be able to tell if they're a man or a woman eh.
03:00.6
Think about it. Men and women, before puberty, have the same physical appearance.
03:07.3
Let alone, mahaba yung buhok na babae kaya o nakadress siya, yung lalaki naman, nakapantalon.
03:11.7
Aside from that, you can interchange them eh. Hindi mo talaga malalaman.
03:16.1
Until puberty. When puberty kicks in and the hormones kick in,
03:21.2
diyan mo na makikita yung mga growth spurts sa mga lalaki.
03:25.3
The muscles, the bone density, and they start to grow a lot taller.
03:30.1
And that's where the main difference lies.
03:32.2
Pero before that, people normally, kasi nga 99.95% correct naman yung mga sex assignments based on the visual inspection.
03:42.0
Most people will accept whatever the sex assignment given by the doctor or whoever gave birth to the child.
03:49.4
So, in this case, Iman grew up her whole life.
03:53.8
And her parents, assuming that she was...
03:57.1
Until the time when she hit puberty and by 18 years old, nag-umpisa na siya mag-compete.
04:04.9
Now, remember ah.
04:07.7
Okay, I'm gonna show you a photo of her as a child.
04:10.4
O, ito yung picture niya as a child. Pag tinignan mo to.
04:13.2
Ngayon, pag tinignan mo yung picture na to, mukhang babae, di ba?
04:15.7
Pero kung tinignan mo yung katabi niya, pwedeng babae din yan o lalaki.
04:18.8
Kahit yung hawak na baby na katabi ng tatay, pwedeng lalaki o babae yan.
04:22.5
The only indication that you think she's a girl,
04:25.1
is because may pigtails, and then naka-pink dress.
04:28.6
But aside from that, there is really no other indication.
04:32.1
Here is where it makes the changes na.
04:35.0
Watch what happens once she turns 18.
04:37.7
And in this case, ayan, tingnan mo itong mga photos na to.
04:40.3
This is her as a full-grown adult.
04:42.7
This is her now as a boxer na.
04:45.2
Now, if you look at the body structure, no?
04:47.5
That's a body structure of a man.
04:53.7
And I know people are saying,
04:55.1
but she's a woman because she was assigned that at birth.
04:57.9
You know, again, there's always that chance of making that mistakes
05:01.1
in terms of mga gender, sorry, sex assignments.
05:06.2
Kasi nga, may mga what they call intersex individuals.
05:10.4
I want to talk about yung mga intersex individuals, ano?
05:13.5
Itong intersex individuals, okay, the better term and proper term for it
05:17.1
is differences in sex development.
05:19.3
And I'm just going to read this from the actual page of the NHS, ano?
05:23.7
It's differences.
05:25.1
Intersex development is a group of rare conditions
05:27.4
involving genes, hormones, and reproductive organs, including genitals,
05:32.6
which means that the person's sex development is different to most other people.
05:37.2
Now, sometimes the term disorders of sex development is used
05:42.6
as is variations in sex characteristics or diverse sex development.
05:48.8
Now, some people prefer to use the term intersex, okay?
05:53.2
And in this case,
05:56.8
so why does DSD happen?
05:58.0
I'm going to read it.
05:58.8
It's when you and your child have the sex chromosome
06:01.2
usually associated being female XX or associated male XY,
06:06.7
but the reproductive organs and genitals may look different from the usual.
06:11.6
So, if you think, and by the way,
06:14.5
itong DSD has a very wide spectrum.
06:18.5
Now, I'm not going to go into all the spectrums,
06:20.8
dahil sobrang dami niya.
06:22.1
Pero I'm going to talk about in particular,
06:24.4
yung possible na DSD na meron si Iman Khalif at si Lynn Yuting, okay?
06:37.4
I think what happened with them was,
06:39.3
upon visual inspection,
06:41.7
underdeveloped yung kanilang male genitalia
06:44.4
o kaya meron nga silang female genitalia, okay?
06:49.1
But even with that,
06:50.6
na being intersex or having this disorder,
06:54.4
they can exhibit male characteristics pa rin,
06:57.3
especially after puberty.
06:59.9
Now, that means that they have developed the XY chromosome,
07:03.6
which is the male chromosome.
07:07.7
ang nangyari dito,
07:08.7
they started competing na in boxing.
07:11.2
Now, when they started competing,
07:13.8
in-assume na lang ng mga tao,
07:15.3
especially yung boxers din themselves,
07:17.1
in-assume ni Iman Khalif na babae siya.
07:19.5
So, she competed in the female division
07:22.3
because that's what she assumed she was.
07:25.1
wow, medyo magaling ako dito.
07:26.5
I can move very fast.
07:27.8
I have long arms.
07:29.7
Taller than most women.
07:31.5
Si Iman Khalif is a very tall woman.
07:34.3
then she started competing and realized,
07:35.8
uy, I can do this
07:36.7
and make a career out of it.
07:39.4
Then, when she started doing that,
07:41.6
Nobody questioned it.
07:43.5
when she started,
07:44.4
maliliit na circuits pa lang naman yan.
07:45.9
So, walang nakakapansin sa kanya.
07:47.8
As she started to compete more,
07:50.2
at mas marami na nakakapansin,
07:51.7
2018 siya nag-start, ano?
07:54.4
when she started winning a lot of competitions na
07:58.8
and she started to improve,
08:00.5
and the people watching started to notice something na,
08:07.6
if you look at the IBA's rules,
08:11.0
So, we're gonna go to the rule book of the IBA.
08:13.5
And then, tinignan mo kung anong definition ng woman,
08:17.4
that it states that women,
08:19.4
and definition means an individual
08:21.2
with chromosome XX,
08:24.4
Ngayon, for this purpose,
08:26.1
the boxers can be submitted to a random gender test
08:29.1
to confirm the above,
08:31.3
which will serve as a gender eligibility criteria
08:34.0
for the IBF competitions.
08:36.1
Alam mo, itong IBA rules
08:38.3
is 103 pages long.
08:41.1
It goes through every single medical condition.
08:44.6
It goes through every single rule
08:46.6
regarding cuts, injuries, safety,
08:50.4
about the referees,
08:51.7
about the boxers,
08:54.6
about their country,
08:55.6
every detail they go over.
08:57.5
This is important because
09:00.7
which is very dangerous.
09:02.5
Alam mo, bagano ka dangerous ang boxing?
09:05.2
Pag hindi tama yung mga pagre-referee,
09:09.4
pwedeng mamatay ang boxer.
09:12.1
Ganun ka dangerous ang boxing.
09:15.5
based on this rule,
09:17.6
and based on certain criterias,
09:20.8
may mga nag-inquire
09:23.7
to have Iman Khalif
09:27.9
go through the gender eligibility test.
09:32.5
Now, I'm gonna show you
09:33.7
the actual minutes of the meeting
09:36.1
where they talked about this.
09:39.4
So, in this minutes of the meeting,
09:42.0
nakalagay dito, no,
09:47.0
I'm gonna just expand it
09:48.1
kasi pati ako di ko mabasa ito.
09:53.7
Mark, Mark Patrick,
09:54.9
IBA Head of Sports,
09:56.5
presented two case of athletes
10:02.4
who's competing in the IBA World Boxing.
10:04.8
Kasi they failed to,
10:06.2
the reason they're being, ano,
10:09.7
they conducted a test
10:11.5
with an independent laba
10:13.4
to be able to check on
10:15.8
the gender eligibility of the two.
10:21.0
it was requested by,
10:23.7
the Technical Delegate and Medical Jury
10:25.8
of the Championships Committee.
10:28.4
Now, when they did this test,
10:35.6
were actually XY chromosomes.
10:39.0
XY chromosome means you're a guy.
10:41.7
That's undisputable.
10:44.3
Based on the definition of what a female is,
10:48.9
hindi na pwedeng mag-qualify
10:57.9
they actually put it to a vote
10:59.4
and then it was ratified
11:01.1
and then they confirmed that,
11:03.8
the boxers were not gonna be able to
11:07.1
they're not gonna be able to compete
11:08.4
in the competition
11:09.9
and all the results
11:15.5
And in that case,
11:17.5
hindi na sila eligible
11:19.2
to compete after that.
11:26.7
this is the due process
11:28.1
that happens in boxing.
11:32.9
to be able to appeal
11:40.1
official statement of the IBA
11:42.1
with regards to this issue.
11:45.1
punta tayo ngayon sa
11:51.2
Makikita mo dito yung,
11:54.7
official statement nila.
11:56.1
Ilagay natin doon sa
11:56.9
official statement,
12:00.1
Saan yung official statement nila?
12:02.1
yung page ng official statement.
12:09.5
on their website eh,
12:23.7
pag makita mo dito,
12:26.7
I think this is the one.
12:27.4
Let me just check right now.
12:29.8
If that's the one
12:30.8
or there's another one,
12:32.8
Give me two seconds,
12:46.1
disqualification,
12:51.1
share this with you guys.
12:52.7
I'm gonna send it
12:54.0
the technical head lang.
13:09.2
I think this is the one.
13:11.2
to the top of this one,
13:15.0
let me see the first page.
13:19.5
Yung statement made by
13:20.6
International Boxing Association,
13:24.2
hindi yan yun, ano,
13:25.3
Yung pinadala ko na lang,
13:26.3
please click to that one,
13:27.3
yung pinadala ko.
13:28.5
So, pagdinignan mo itong, ano,
13:29.6
statement made by the IBA, ano,
13:31.5
in this statement,
13:32.4
makikita mo dito, ah,
13:36.6
hindi nga pwede mag-compete
13:39.0
because nga they failed
13:40.0
the eligibility test.
13:41.5
scroll to the, ano,
13:42.8
keep scrolling to the bottom,
13:44.8
Makikita mo dito,
13:45.6
keep scrolling pa.
13:48.0
yan yung key points dito, ah,
13:50.2
that the tests were performed
13:55.1
Boxing Championships in Istanbul
13:56.9
and the one in New Delhi.
13:59.5
Now, for clarification,
14:03.3
the IBA's decision.
14:06.6
initially appealed,
14:08.8
to withdraw the appeal
14:10.1
during the process.
14:12.6
the IBA's decision
14:14.6
I want you to ask yourself
14:19.9
and alam mong mali
14:24.1
and you're actually
14:26.5
wouldn't you contest it
14:27.7
considering this is
14:30.0
This is your profession.
14:31.2
This is your life.
14:34.2
it was an unjustly,
14:37.2
and that mali yung results,
14:38.9
you would fight for it.
14:40.0
You make money on this.
14:42.0
ganito yung kabuhayan mo, eh.
14:43.9
Pero hindi nila nilaban
14:47.0
So, think about that.
14:50.5
eto pa yung isa pa,
14:51.3
hindi nila nilaban.
14:52.8
kasi kung nilaban nila yan,
14:55.2
it will go to the committee,
14:56.8
the Commission of Appeals
14:59.4
Court of Appeals.
15:00.4
And when it goes to
15:01.5
the Court of Appeals,
15:06.9
medical information
15:07.7
becomes public knowledge na.
15:11.4
And when that happens,
15:12.7
it means everyone's going to know
15:14.6
what the results are.
15:16.9
Now, I know that some people
15:18.1
were saying nga na,
15:20.3
na bakit kasi ang vague,
15:21.4
ayaw nalang ilabas yung,
15:24.2
merong ano yan eh,
15:25.1
merong mga confidentiality,
15:27.7
confidentiality issues yan.
15:30.7
they're very careful
15:31.5
with the wording.
15:32.4
And they cannot disclose
15:33.3
somebody's medical information.
15:37.0
Data privacy yan,
15:39.2
And that's why they didn't.
15:41.1
if the appeal did happen,
15:48.0
for these medical records
15:49.9
As a matter of fact,
15:51.1
if they wanted to show
15:52.3
nga na talagang eligible sila,
15:54.8
to have the medical records
15:56.6
shown to the public.
15:57.9
But they didn't do that as well.
16:01.0
may tinatago ba sila?
16:03.6
Now, here is where
16:04.5
it becomes interesting.
16:06.2
They already got banned
16:08.2
in the women's division
16:11.0
is an international organization
16:13.2
that's very strict
16:15.8
ang main objective nila
16:17.0
is to make boxing safe
16:20.5
And they will abide
16:21.3
by this very strict,
16:24.2
that safe ang babae
16:25.5
at alaki sa competition,
16:26.8
especially ang babae.
16:28.5
And that is their
16:30.9
To be able to protect
16:32.3
to make sure na walang masaktan.
16:34.1
It is not about being
16:37.9
o kaya may mga phobia
16:39.6
or anything like that.
16:40.8
It is meant to protect
16:43.9
Because people can die.
16:47.6
what happened here was
16:49.9
upon the conclusion of,
16:52.9
that it's an XY chromosome
16:54.0
and then if you look
16:56.6
you just look at the photos
16:58.8
and of Lee Yu Ting.
17:00.9
yung mga pictures nila,
17:03.1
Do your own visual test.
17:04.4
Does that look like
17:05.8
Yes, I know there are women
17:06.8
that look muscular.
17:08.7
they still look like women.
17:09.6
Even Serena Williams,
17:15.5
She still looks like a woman.
17:23.7
They're straight as a man,
17:26.8
And I'm saying that
17:28.0
and I'm not trying to be
17:30.8
calling a spade a spade.
17:32.8
I'm calling a man a man
17:36.6
it is pretty easy
17:38.4
based on all the evidence
17:48.1
feel free to disagree
17:49.0
with me on this one, guys.
17:50.2
And I'm more than happy
17:52.8
But I'm just stating to you
17:54.0
all the facts presented.
17:56.4
Here are some questions.
17:58.1
So, if Iman Khalif
18:01.2
bakit pinayagan siya
18:02.5
International Olympic Committee
18:05.8
to be able to compete
18:08.1
in the women's division?
18:10.3
The reason for that is
18:17.1
the regulatory body
18:18.3
to be able to qualify
18:24.3
this is all very political
18:29.3
the Boxing Commission,
18:30.8
na nagtatalo sila
18:33.1
And because of this,
18:34.4
they decided to not
18:35.5
recognize the IBA anymore.
18:37.5
Honestly, for me,
18:38.6
I don't really care
18:39.5
about their politics,
18:41.2
meron silang pinag-aawayan
18:44.5
that they don't agree with.
18:45.5
And that's why they did it.
18:48.9
the Olympic Committee.
18:51.0
What they did is,
18:52.5
because they don't have
18:53.2
a boxing association
18:55.9
actually regulate
18:57.2
and qualify boxers,
18:59.1
what they did is,
19:06.7
is playing with me.
19:08.3
What they did is,
19:13.1
in Paris specifically
19:15.1
to be able to do this.
19:16.7
An ad hoc committee
19:18.5
is ginawa lang nila.
19:20.3
So, it's not a full
19:21.4
regulating committee.
19:22.8
it becomes dangerous.
19:26.0
the qualifications
19:31.5
ano ba yung gender,
19:34.0
your biological sex
19:35.2
based on your passport
19:36.3
and what have you
19:37.3
been competing as.
19:39.7
Now, I'm gonna play
19:41.1
of the IOC chairman
19:44.0
their qualifications
19:55.5
what would be called
20:01.7
and still compete
20:03.0
So, this panacea,
20:15.3
They know their sports
20:16.3
and their disciplines
20:17.6
and you need to target
20:25.2
we're all agreed,
20:26.2
I hope we're all agreed
20:27.1
that we're not calling
20:28.2
for people to go back
20:29.0
to the bad old days
20:39.3
in this situation.
20:44.3
and we're talking
20:45.0
about real people's lives here.
20:46.8
They have competed
20:47.5
and they continue
20:49.1
in the women's competition.
20:50.9
and they have won
20:51.6
against other women
20:52.5
throughout over the years
20:57.0
I should make this
20:57.6
absolutely clear for everyone,
20:59.4
a transgender issue.
21:00.7
I know you know that
21:01.5
but I think there has been
21:02.6
some misreporting on this
21:03.8
and I think it's very,
21:04.7
very important to say
21:07.1
a transgender issue.
21:08.5
These women have been
21:09.3
competing in competitions
21:14.2
I should make this
21:14.8
absolutely clear for everyone,
21:16.1
this is not a transgender issue.
21:18.5
a couple of things
21:21.6
made in this interview
21:23.7
tackle each one of these
21:26.2
I'm going to read
21:26.6
all the comments.
21:27.9
I just want to keep going
21:28.7
with my train of thought
21:29.4
so that it won't disappear.
21:30.6
The Olympic Committee,
21:33.3
they were saying that
21:36.8
on the passports.
21:38.9
that they were born a woman,
21:40.8
their passport says
21:42.2
they've competed as a woman,
21:43.4
therefore they're women.
21:44.9
And that's scientific.
21:50.6
Olympic Committee,
22:03.3
look at the problems we have.
22:04.9
look at all these
22:06.3
fake birth certificates
22:07.4
with the Chinese,
22:09.1
And then claiming to be
22:13.3
Filipino passport?
22:14.5
Like the lawyer claims
22:15.8
she's a Filipino?
22:18.0
That's also the case
22:18.6
with birth certificates.
22:20.0
She claims in the
22:20.9
birth certificates,
22:24.2
pero we also know
22:24.9
that it was mali.
22:26.0
It was fraudulent.
22:28.7
it's possible that
22:29.5
it was a mistake.
22:31.0
a passport is not scientific.
22:33.9
the XY chromosome
22:35.8
and the XX chromosome.
22:37.8
And when they did
22:40.9
eligibility test,
22:43.0
it's XY chromosome.
22:44.2
That's scientific.
22:47.0
tama yung Olympic Committee.
22:48.4
They should really leave it
22:49.5
to proper regulating
22:50.5
bodies moving forward.
22:53.2
And they have to do more
22:56.2
looking at a passport
22:59.6
kung babae ba o lalaki.
23:00.7
They have to do more than that
23:01.8
because in boxing especially,
23:04.1
you're talking about
23:08.3
Men hit very hard
23:09.5
compared to women.
23:11.7
And a woman can get
23:13.4
and actually fall into
23:14.8
a coma or even die.
23:17.2
It's that serious.
23:18.4
And I've watched the fights.
23:21.2
I've watched the fights
23:21.6
and here's the thing
23:23.3
that I want to go
23:27.9
I want to actually
23:29.2
talk about as well.
23:31.9
they don't want to go back
23:32.8
to the testing of sex
23:34.7
because back in the day
23:36.1
it was very invasive.
23:37.1
They stick stuff up
23:38.0
your private parts
23:39.8
to be able to do that.
23:41.2
that's too barbaric.
23:43.3
But there are ways
23:44.7
to just check the chromosome
23:47.6
And it's as simple
23:51.1
they should do that.
23:55.2
kaya nga natatawa ko dito
23:56.3
sa Olympic Committee
23:58.4
because it feels to me
23:59.6
that they're making statements
24:00.5
and making their statements
24:01.6
feel like it's fact.
24:02.9
But all they made
24:04.3
without nothing backing it up.
24:06.1
They have to be able
24:11.6
and their decision
24:16.6
And that's what we need to do.
24:24.8
if they really had,
24:27.3
ito yung isang palaging
24:28.4
nakita kong argument
24:29.4
na binibigay online,
24:30.6
on the social media,
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social media outrage.
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kung talagang may advantage
24:37.0
itong mga male boxers na to,
24:40.1
bakit natalo sila?
24:42.3
So, let's go through
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I'm gonna go through it
24:49.1
kung totoo bang may advantage
24:55.2
I want you to look at that record
24:57.6
natalo siya against 9 women.
24:59.5
let's scroll down
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to the bottom of that page.
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Para makita nga natin,
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all the way to the bottom
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this is how she started.
25:09.4
Yung first fight niya,
25:10.9
And this is the first
25:11.7
9 fights you're looking at.
25:21.1
Five times in a row,
25:23.4
And the reason she lost
25:27.4
the women are stronger than her.
25:31.2
When a man competes
25:32.7
na hindi pa marunong lumaban
25:34.2
versus a skilled woman
25:35.7
at the same weight,
25:38.5
mananalo yung babae
25:39.6
compared to the man.
25:41.4
But I want you to also note
25:42.8
how the women won.
25:52.6
Ibig sabihin nun,
25:53.7
it could have gone
25:55.9
Pwedeng matalo siya,
25:56.8
pwede din siyang manalo.
25:58.0
Ganun kalapit yun.
25:59.6
Then if you look at it,
26:00.8
yung isa pang talo niya
26:01.7
is also split decision.
26:03.7
As she got better
26:04.7
and then after that,
26:10.0
one unanimous decision.
26:11.9
one unanimous decision.
26:13.3
Everything else is a win.
26:14.5
And then one more
26:15.6
unanimous decision
26:16.4
and stop right here.
26:23.6
Failed, hormone test.
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na may problem na.
26:26.5
And at this point,
26:27.9
hindi na siya inalaw
26:28.9
ng IBA to compete.
26:32.0
she was still competing
26:32.8
before they were able
26:33.8
to finalize these tests.
26:36.4
scroll all the way
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to the top of the page
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and at this point,
26:42.0
diyan na pumasok siya
26:44.4
To be able to be allowed
26:46.5
was not recognized anymore
26:47.8
kaya pwede pa siyang
26:59.1
are split decisions.
27:01.6
it could have gone either way
27:03.6
happened at the start
27:05.2
And I'll tell you guys this,
27:07.6
I own a boxing gym
27:09.9
So I've been boxing
27:11.7
and I've competed.
27:12.9
And when I watch boxers,
27:14.3
and I'm telling you this,
27:15.9
Clarissa Shields,
27:17.7
women's champion,
27:20.7
pag kinalaban ko siya,
27:21.8
I'm guaranteeing you,
27:23.3
magugulpe ako niyan.
27:24.6
Siguro hindi niya ako
27:25.9
but mabubugbog niya talaga ako
27:28.9
unanimous decision.
27:30.3
But because of my strength,
27:32.4
kung swertehin ako
27:33.4
na mag-connect ako ng isa,
27:35.2
maybe I can knock her out.
27:37.5
and likelihood of me
27:38.4
getting that Hail Mary
27:40.7
are very, very low.
27:44.3
what's happening here.
27:46.8
how Iman Khalif hits,
27:50.0
Pag tinatamaan niya
27:53.4
Kahit nung mga times
27:55.5
panorin niyo yun.
27:57.4
yung mga babaeng yun.
28:00.6
Very skilled sila
28:02.1
Yun lang ang advantage.
28:02.9
Pero pag tinatamaan sila,
28:03.9
nahihirapan din sila.
28:07.0
there's that physical advantage
28:11.5
So, for those asking
28:12.6
kung bakit may losses,
28:14.7
Even when you look at
28:15.8
the boxing record
28:24.0
Just so that we're clear
28:28.3
and makita nga natin
28:29.9
kung ano ba talaga.
28:31.9
Tignan natin yung
28:35.5
I don't know if I was
28:36.7
able to submit that
28:42.9
Maraming split decision,
28:44.0
majority decisions,
28:47.2
hindi yan unanimous
28:48.0
decisions pa rin.
28:55.2
Bug-bug niya yung kalaban niya.
28:56.6
Walang laban yung babae.
28:58.4
It was really bad.
29:03.2
ngayon ang tanong natin dito.
29:05.2
and other intersex people
29:07.5
compete in sports?
29:12.6
with them competing
29:15.8
I believe everyone
29:16.8
has the right to be able
29:21.9
if they're gonna compete,
29:23.4
all I can say is this.
29:24.4
They have to compete
29:30.7
pero dapat magkaroon
29:31.9
gender eligibility test.
29:35.0
So, kung XY chromosome,
29:36.7
they compete with a man.
29:38.9
they compete with a woman.
29:40.6
Ganun lang yung kasimple.
29:43.6
Now, if there are other
29:44.8
possible complications
29:51.9
probably did not develop
29:55.1
Pero, iba-iba yan eh.
29:57.6
So, it has to be a
29:58.5
case-to-case basis on that.
30:00.7
is it too much of a problem?
30:02.5
Because, remember,
30:06.7
So, in that case,
30:11.7
case-to-case basis.
30:12.8
But, generally naman kasi,
30:14.0
the rules should apply
30:17.9
of the men and the women
30:21.0
So, yun lang sa akin.
30:22.0
And the reason we're doing this
30:23.5
is not to discriminate,
30:26.5
parang not giving people
30:30.5
a fair and chance in life.
30:32.2
Hindi ganun yan, guys.
30:33.1
It's just about safety,
30:34.1
especially for women.
30:36.2
That's my position with this.
30:40.2
when you talk about
30:42.6
especially combat sports,
30:45.7
remember that the reason
30:47.0
women have their own division
30:50.2
throughout history
30:52.3
are not as physically
30:55.7
in terms of strength
30:57.0
as compared to a man.
30:58.8
And there's nothing wrong
31:03.2
oh, women are as strong
31:07.0
physically gifted
31:08.5
in a lot of different ways
31:09.8
that men are deficient in.
31:12.7
And it's complementary.
31:14.0
It doesn't have to be
31:19.4
for anyone calling,
31:20.5
baka saying to me
31:25.9
or anything like that,
31:26.6
it's not about that.
31:29.5
should transgenders
31:32.2
to compete in sports?
31:36.6
I'm gonna reiterate,
31:38.0
yung issue with Iman Khalif
31:43.3
is not a transgender issue.
31:47.4
or intersex people.
31:49.3
a different case altogether.
31:50.9
But I wanna talk about
31:56.7
should be allowed
32:00.9
should trans women
32:02.6
in women's sports?
32:04.2
My position is this.
32:08.0
to be discriminatory
32:09.0
against trans women.
32:12.4
that are trans women.
32:15.2
regardless of your gender.
32:22.3
I'm just talking about
32:28.3
biological women's rights.
32:31.4
transgender women
32:38.4
their biological sex
32:43.9
let's just base it on
32:45.7
They have an XY chromosome
32:47.3
and they want to compete
32:50.3
that are XX chromosome.
32:52.0
That is not fair.
32:54.1
They have to compete
32:55.1
not with their gender assignment.
32:58.3
By their gender identity.
33:01.0
But, they should compete
33:05.6
So, that would be
33:06.2
the XY chromosome.
33:07.1
So, they have to compete
33:14.0
that identify as women
33:16.9
in the women's division.
33:20.2
if you think about it,
33:21.1
wala tayong issue
33:23.5
wanting to compete
33:24.2
in the men's division.
33:26.6
Have you heard of any issue?
33:28.2
I don't have an issue with it
33:30.8
in the men's division.
33:32.5
Because they don't have
33:33.5
any physical advantage
33:36.5
in the men's division.
33:37.9
They are actually
33:38.6
at a disadvantage.
33:47.0
women's division.
33:48.9
And that's the case
33:50.2
with the Filipino
33:57.3
There's a picture
33:57.8
of Hergy Bakyadan.
34:04.1
but he's a biological woman.
34:07.4
for the Philippines
34:09.3
in the women's division.
34:12.4
but that's beside the point.
34:18.8
compete with the men.
34:20.5
Being a trans man
34:22.8
he identifies as a man
34:24.6
he will be as strong
34:29.1
hormone replacement
34:30.5
hormone replacement therapy
34:34.1
replacement therapy
34:39.9
he's already an adult
34:40.9
hindi na magde-develop
34:42.3
even with all the
34:44.0
that they pump into him.
34:46.7
He's not gonna be able
34:47.5
to develop like that
34:48.4
because that development
34:49.1
happens during puberty.
34:51.1
That bone density,
34:53.4
that happens during that time.
34:56.0
kaya hindi na niya kaya yun.
34:59.8
kailangan siya talaga
35:00.5
magkumpit sa women's division.
35:03.6
that if a trans woman
35:07.3
and the muscle mass
35:09.1
because they went through puberty,
35:10.7
they should not be able
35:12.2
in the women's division.
35:14.5
there are exceptions.
35:15.5
maybe if they started
35:18.4
the hormone replacement therapies
35:21.3
when they were still
35:23.1
and hindi sila nag-develop,
35:28.0
let's make it a case-to-case basis
35:29.4
but if we wanted to go
35:31.9
it's XY chromosome,
35:33.1
you can't compete.
35:37.1
people that are watching
35:38.9
that are probably gonna think,
35:40.2
you're just transphobic.
35:41.5
I'll accept whatever you wanna say
35:42.9
if you wanna call me hateful.
35:45.3
That's your opinion.
35:46.8
if you really look at it,
35:48.4
it doesn't help the discussion
35:49.6
by just calling each other names,
35:51.4
labeling each other,
35:52.2
judging each other.
35:53.1
I think there's a discussion
