00:21.7
lang Department of National defense
00:23.1
office for detain affair so while I was
00:25.6
Growing Up Nini ko yung kwento about
00:27.8
police corruption abuses naririning ko
00:31.0
yung kwento about theis being raped si
00:33.2
Nelia Sancho from my mom so ang
00:36.2
political zation ko is not from the
00:38.6
movement it's not from leftist books
00:41.7
it's from my parents who are all
00:43.6
Government employees yun yyung doon ako
00:45.5
na naalala mo yyung time na nagkaroon ng
00:47.2
announcement nung Marshall si Kit ano
00:49.6
Wal nung nangyari yun I I was sa less
00:53.3
than 10 years old no na nangyari yung
00:55.2
Marshall law wala kango Meron meron kang
00:58.0
memory pero ang preoccupation mo maglaro
01:01.4
e so pero narinig mo narinig mo hindi
01:05.2
nagmarka hindi nagmarka si at alam mo ah
01:08.7
after ng marshal law Naririnig mo yung
01:10.8
mga parents mo talking about Ano bang
01:13.1
marshal law Ano bang nangyayari lalo na
01:15.5
yung mother ko office for theis Affairs
01:18.8
under under secretary Cris was she
01:21.2
anxious was she what I mean nakakaabot
01:23.7
sa kanya yung mga rape torture
01:27.5
ejk so when I was Growing Up N she-she
01:31.6
ako non at looking back ah tingin ko
01:34.6
Iyun Iyung naging foundation ko against
01:38.6
right for democracy without my parents
01:42.2
knowing it so meron tayong desaparecido
01:45.5
So this is a parl to Argentina and Latin
01:48.0
America and all no so unfortunately
01:50.1
marami din tayong mga kasabay na bansa
01:51.8
no at iyung father ko NAPOLCOM nasa
01:55.0
commit siya ng mga reklamo against
01:57.5
police corruption ang dami na mga pulis
02:00.9
na nangaabuso ng panahon na yan very
02:02.8
powerful sila e So doon ako na- shape
02:05.1
nung panahon na hanggang ngayon
02:06.4
Unfortunate Andon pa yung kultura naan
02:08.2
Mark Ikaw anong maalala mo sa mga
02:10.0
obviously hindi ka pinak Paras tayo but
02:11.8
ang point ko is in terms of yung
02:13.8
diskurso na narinig mukul sa martial law
02:16.0
as someone who has no ideological ano
02:18.8
moing if I can put It That Way Yeah sa
02:21.3
akin the whole the whole issue about
02:23.5
marshal could be split into dalawang
02:27.3
periods lang as far as my adult life is
02:30.5
concerned that was pre Duterte and post
02:34.6
Duterte an understanding o kung kung
02:37.6
Syempre kung pakikinggan mo yung side
02:39.2
nung mga dds and nung mga ano na yon ang
02:41.6
sasabihin nila Ah yung pre Duterte Ah
02:44.8
yung everything we know about Marshall
02:47.1
law is kung ano yung pinapalabas ng
02:50.3
abscbn kung ano yung inaano ng
02:52.5
mainstream media kung ano yung which is
02:54.3
K an yung pinapalabas Marami naman d is
02:56.1
ano talagang based from this facts
02:58.4
historical facts yeah speaking of St Of
03:00.5
Us I mean you can see the names of the
03:02.5
victims are here i Staring you in the
03:04.3
face these are real people I mean let's
03:07.1
pay respect to this people for Heaven
03:09.0
sake God bless your soul God bless your
03:11.0
soul they fought for us fol merong
03:13.6
pananaw ng tao pre ah Pre Duterte meron
03:18.2
na yung ah Duterte post pagkapanalo ni
03:22.1
Duterte nung 2016 kasi ang ang problema
03:25.1
kasi ang target naman hindi naman
03:26.9
marshalo yung target talaga Yeah nung
03:29.8
para manalo ang target kasi is yung
03:31.8
buong yellow yung si Pinoy Okay kung
03:34.8
sino yung kandidato ni Pinoy kung sino
03:36.8
yung so to break down Si Pinoy kung para
03:40.2
mawala yyung strength nung ah pinoyy
03:43.2
government para makita ng tao ang dami
03:44.9
talaga each year yan from 1970 onwards
03:47.2
Yeah ito kapatid ni bik ladlad no right
03:50.3
andon yung pangalan ni kapatid ni pepe
03:52.4
luneta Teka Mindoro pwede mong sabihin
03:55.0
these are real people are real people
03:60.0
man yan These are the crem alem ng
04:02.0
student movement Hindi ito katulad ko na
04:04.7
raw 4 ito yung mga top of their class e
04:07.4
' ba Aung mgaa may mga Moro Brothers din
04:11.2
tayo di ba si lawah dito si harana
04:14.8
abubakar aan si Herman lag Ading Herman
04:17.8
lagma Oo Ahmad ano Madir sar lag right
04:22.9
so kita natin mga Moro Brothers Sisters
04:26.0
it's it's male female young not so young
04:29.3
I mean it's all sorts of different
04:30.6
people This are real people This are
04:32.4
real now I get it Di ba yun ang lumabas
04:34.5
sa kumbaga naging unintended
04:37.4
Uh unintended victim is yung yung ah
04:41.8
toong Vi yung totoong nangyari nung
04:44.6
Marshall law para maipanalo yung kalaban
04:47.3
ni Pinoy at that time nung 2016 tapos
04:50.1
tinuloy-tuloy na kasi all they have to
04:51.9
do was to identify yyung mga nag mga
04:54.4
lumalaban kay Duterte na kayo ah ah
04:58.1
yellow kayo MM in order to break that
05:00.9
down they have to break down the whole
05:02.5
marshal law narrative ang naging epekto
05:04.8
naman is bumango yung mga Marcos kaya
05:07.2
nakabalik in power Yun naman yyung
05:08.8
unintended consequence n nung ginawa n
05:10.8
mga but back then they didn't know it
05:12.4
will come back to bite them and now np
05:15.6
People Power Ong mga walang indung dulat
05:18.8
the leader of the ice
05:22.4
nung pinatay siya non yung leader ng mga
05:26.0
kwan ng mga kababayan
05:28.0
mo cord are my people Yeah I mean until
05:31.7
198 nilan Actually Sorry until
05:36.4
1983 dito so hide na lift yung marshal
05:40.3
law tuloy-tuloy yung pagpatay ng tao at
05:42.4
saka ak kin si Dulag e kasi niya ang
05:46.8
dami ng mga Inaapi napakakaunti na
05:49.5
nangaapi na kung tayo ay magkakaisa at
05:52.6
sabaysabay dudura sa Dura lamang natin
05:55.5
kaya nating lunurin yung kakaunting ng
06:05.1
mean all the way pala to the end na to
06:07.6
no 1986 na to Yeah grabe and I'm sure
06:11.6
ito pa yung dis paros and all so hindi
06:13.8
ako nag-iingat baka kasama ako rito Yeah
06:16.1
almost di ba where I was the first
06:19.0
president of the first student Council
06:21.2
sa University but sir Rona ano yung mga
06:23.3
close call yung mga talagang almost you
06:25.5
know yung Razer thin yung what separates
06:28.5
you from Death or being What meron kang
06:30.9
mga moments na ganon kasi You Went all
06:32.4
the way panahon ng students I arest
06:35.8
after after my student days yun yung
06:39.5
ung in-ambush ka nilulusob yung opisina
06:43.4
niyo yung headquarters niyo no Ah yun
06:45.9
yung mas delikado yung mga nagoorganize
06:48.2
ka na ng trade unions in the post 1982
06:52.6
yung wala ka na sa kolehio post 1982 so
06:56.7
supposed lifted na yung Marshall law
06:58.6
this time di ba well ah supposedly ba
07:02.4
yeah What was the difference between
07:04.7
before the lifting and after the lifting
07:06.4
kasi syempre bumisita si Pope meron pa
07:08.4
Iyung Carter President Carter Jimmy
07:10.0
Carter talk Mar marami pa ring mga
07:11.5
arrest marami pa ringal feeling pero
07:14.3
nakita mo na nagsisimula ng humina si
07:18.0
President Marcos at nagsisimula ng
07:20.6
mag-take over si Imelda at saka si faan
07:24.1
panahon naon e and kalaban na nila sila
07:25.8
andr na may sariling ambisyon na rin di
07:27.7
ba nagkaroon na ng ah
07:30.4
with the eventually culminated may padil
07:38.6
padilya ako kasi I felt we have to do
07:41.8
this kasi people saying Bakit Duterte
07:43.8
kay ng Duterte We're just trying to say
07:45.8
here guys na lahat tinitignan namin
07:48.1
including hindi lang iyung mga ejk
07:49.8
victims ni diong but we're also looking
07:51.5
at the original disap pardos at saka
07:53.9
biktima ng massive human rights
07:55.4
violation kaya may paki kami kaya kaya
07:57.5
concern kami ikaw sa tingin mo Mark
07:59.5
meron din akong comment gumawa din ako
08:01.0
Actually ng vlog dito nung around
08:02.4
election time nung 2022 eh on the other
08:05.9
side naman ha Ito yung saakin ha yyung
08:08.3
mga yung mga people na who are still
08:10.2
holding kumbaga yung who are guarding
08:12.4
yyung ah Memories ng martial law and ano
08:15.6
um sa akin siguro yyung mga defenders
08:18.8
non they need to understand na like I
08:22.1
said It's a different time hindi na to
08:25.1
yung pre 2016 na everyone accepted for a
08:30.3
talagang madaming masamang nangyari
08:32.4
talaga Marami talagang Oo kasi after
08:36.1
yung 2016 onwards ang dami ng lumabas sa
08:39.7
social media ang dami na so hati eh
08:41.9
kahit ayaw kahit masakit man para sa mga
08:44.5
lalo na lalo na yyung people who were
08:47.0
around nga during this time na sa
08:49.0
panahon ngayon kalahati ng population
08:51.2
doesn't Believe yung mga horror stories
08:53.8
and yung mga negative stories na
08:55.2
nangyari nung buong panahon na to need
08:57.9
to be dah 60% ng botante ay 40 years and
09:01.0
below ibig sabihin yung pinakamatanda sa
09:03.3
kanila are 4 years old nung
09:05.7
nangyari so And that's the bulk of
09:08.0
voters now so talagang madaling madaling
09:10.6
i-revise ang history we're G to go to
09:12.9
bonifas and all he was like more than
09:14.8
100 years ag but we still remember but
09:16.6
he was being taught in schools no so
09:19.1
that means importante yung Marshall law
09:21.3
and EDSA was never taught in school ang
09:25.6
problem Pangalawa ang gusto ko lang ding
09:27.9
point kasi ang problema din ung buong
09:30.2
yung buong ah People Power yung parang
09:32.8
ano yung parang the the myth of People
09:34.9
Power nagagamit din for political ano
09:38.7
nung oo political narrative nung mga iba
09:41.1
d gustong umano sa so sa akin maganda
09:43.1
ilabas siya sa politika and pag-usapan
09:46.0
siya as it is kumbaga pag-usapan talaga
09:49.0
kung kung lahat nung involved Doon lahat
09:51.0
nung ano kumbaga Look At All sides Look
09:54.0
At ano i kumbaga have halimbawa hanggang
09:57.2
ngayon hindi alam kung sino pumatay kay
10:00.0
Oo kasama pa natin si bama
10:03.4
Kino natin si bama Kino but you were
10:06.0
saying Ronald very good yung point mo na
10:08.1
but we know a lot about Bonifacio mas
10:10.3
Idol pa natin siya ngayon kaya before
10:12.6
it's in the books so Kulang talaga tayo
10:14.4
sa edukasyon it's the problem is in the
10:16.6
education sector talaga ano kasi kasi
10:18.6
walang walang defendant si Bonifacio na
10:20.5
tumatakbo for political ano pero pero
10:23.6
ito yan kung merong Bonifacio na nasa
10:26.1
senado o tumatakbong presidente yung
10:28.4
Legacy ni bonifac
10:29.8
right magand yung point ni kasi may
10:31.9
nagsabi kay sinira si Aguinaldo kasi
10:33.8
tumakbo siya laban kay Manuel Quezon at
10:36.2
si Quezon na black propaganda niya si
10:37.8
Aguinaldo Kaya ang daming galit kay
10:39.4
Aguinaldo so so Anyway kung martir ka na
10:42.6
wala kang sunod na pamilya hindi hindi
10:44.9
ka gagalawin kasi walang political
10:46.4
interest ng mga tao yun ang yun ang
10:48.7
nakuha ko doun sa interview natin kay
10:50.8
senator bam kasi dapat siguro
10:53.2
dapat ma-realize siguro nila na yung
10:56.8
pagde defend kay Ninoy it is ongoing
11:00.0
hindi yung hindi yung parang yung
11:03.7
naaalala natin pre 2016 they have to
11:06.1
constantly defend kung ano yung
11:07.5
katotohanan nung Ah nakita mo ba yung
11:10.2
poster nung pandesal forum ah Andun yung
11:13.9
mga bayani ' ba ginagamit Luna nandon si
11:18.8
Aguinaldo Ito po yung mga China bo
11:21.4
Marcos Oo lagtas nandoon si diong noun
11:23.6
si Sara sa poster ah mga speaker sila
11:26.6
sasot no ah sila Si ah Herman mga
11:30.6
motherland mga mga ganon no Ah so
11:33.2
dinidikit nila ngayon diyan Makikita mo
11:36.2
w talaga yung mga pro China na yan Oo
11:39.8
ang binabandera nila si the old Marcos
11:42.7
ha right habang anti-marcos sila ngayon
11:44.9
ah an bongo tapos binabandera nila si
11:47.4
Aguinaldo m no parang yyung off lang
11:50.1
doon si General Luna e no but Sir Sir R
11:53.5
before last I go to the economy issue
11:55.3
where I think maraming kakulangan ng sa
11:57.0
kasaluku ng administration Let's talk
11:59.8
if Bonifacio were a leader today How
12:02.2
would He Make sure na hindi tayo ah
12:04.8
sunod-sunuran sa America at hindi rin
12:07.0
tayo tuta or mahina pagdating sa China
12:09.3
ano yung balance diyan Mahalaga itong
12:11.0
kartilya na ginawa ginawa ni agal ni bif
12:16.9
Emilio our youngest revolutionary leader
12:21.4
dahil napaka modern non e par Nakikita
12:24.3
mo yung ating mga revolutionary ay hindi
12:26.5
lamang reactive sa mga kastila Mer
12:31.1
Ah kaya yun yung isang maganda ah
12:34.0
kailangan balikan Sana itong kartilla
12:36.2
isang modern document ang buhay na
12:38.5
walang Banal at marangal na layunin a
12:42.0
halos w years ago pero
12:46.0
modernang pati to yung sa women Yeah
12:48.5
exactly paung saen sa kababan yan ba
12:51.8
correct correct Oo Galing no sobrang
12:54.1
ahead of time ito yung pinaka load mo '
12:56.1
ba sa lahat ng mga revolutionary punos
12:59.7
natin no grabe grabe So sinasabi ko ito
13:02.6
yung fasyon natin eh tapos kung ano ng
13:05.2
kwanan ng ginagawa natin ngayon sa mga
13:07.0
pulitico We started like this t angyari
13:10.0
di ba This was 130 years ago I know Well
13:12.6
ahead of everyone else in asia last
13:14.4
point sir Ronal I know medyo late tayo
13:16.0
nag-start kasi hindi pwede yung iba
13:18.1
pumasok ni just kiding joke lang joke
13:20.6
lang Ito it huli huli huli naito
13:23.2
pag-usapan natin na ekonomiya kasi
13:25.0
syempre naintindihan ko rin yung mga
13:26.8
kababayan natin na parang ganito the way
13:29.2
I see Ron is like that expecting
13:31.6
ordinary people to have to be engaged in
13:33.8
Itong mga debates na to is like someone
13:35.9
expecting us to be engaging I don't know
13:37.9
stock market debates in in wall Street
13:40.2
or whatever kasi wala naman tayong power
13:41.6
e hindi natin macontrol yan e ' ba so of
13:44.6
course it's not an excuse for you not to
13:46.2
be involved pero naintindihan ko ibang
13:47.9
tao akala nila We're just trying to
13:50.2
survive everyday napakamahal ng presyo
13:52.4
ng bilin all sir R What is your
13:54.6
understanding ano yung kulang sa
13:56.0
Economic policies ng Kasalukuyan na
13:58.5
administr at saka yung mga less panon ni
14:00.6
Pinoy kasi Pinoy also didn't really
14:03.4
cover all the bases Yes Dito ako papasok
14:05.8
sa ideology Yeah pag pinag-usapan ng
14:08.1
ekonomiya na yyung mga dating mga
14:10.1
solusyon this past 40 years ay just
14:14.2
scheming the surface ibig sabihin iung
14:16.6
past 40 years na economic policy only
14:19.0
shows na we have to go deeper we have to
14:21.3
go to the system and we have to propose
14:23.7
changes to the system no especially yung
14:26.5
relasyon natin sa mga foreign
14:29.6
huge companies without Creating the
14:32.3
linkin yung yun yung sinasabi ko at dito
14:35.9
Kulang tayo sa education ito yyung
14:38.1
kulang sa progressive movement we failed
14:40.8
to educate our people about the root
14:43.0
causes of our economic problems kaya
14:45.1
paulit-ulit eh yung mga problema about
14:47.7
inflation yung mga problema about
14:51.3
ah food security mga security so ang
14:55.0
sinas kulang sa atin
14:57.3
isend not manufacturing base our own
15:00.6
basic National capacity simp simpl
15:02.9
simpling flood control you cannot have
15:06.0
5,500 flood control prod you also only
15:08.9
one at doon mo makikita ang role ng
15:11.5
state ba doon mo makikita ang role ng
15:14.8
one integrated isa lang
15:19.6
impounding huge underground cisterns
15:23.0
maayos na drainage projects maayos na CL
15:27.4
control etc and this can be done kung at
15:30.8
hindi under a profit motive Capitalist
15:34.2
system ito ay kailangang Hindi ito
15:36.7
kikita eh Hindi ito kikita immediately
15:39.7
no immediately ang kita nito is long
15:42.4
term state interest National interest
15:45.2
very basic siya Anong nangyayari sa
15:47.4
bansa mo Sino pupunta SAO para
15:49.2
mag-invest kung ganyan ang iyong flat
15:51.2
control di ba corruption mis saakin
15:54.2
naman yung ano yung sa gep modernization
16:02.4
parang para suportahan yung mga local Je
16:06.1
manufacturers natin ang laki nung budget
16:08.4
na nilaan para doon sa bumili nung mga
16:11.4
Egypt daw na na made in China na hindi
16:14.8
mo naman madaling masira yung iba pero
16:17.1
we have local manufacturers na kaya
16:19.1
naman na hababa nung experience to
16:22.8
create Itong mga modern na jeep aan
16:25.2
mahalagang usapin yan
16:26.8
transportation isa yan sinasabi ko like
16:29.2
Cloud control na hindi ka immediately
16:31.2
kikita no magi-invest at hindi ka pwede
16:33.9
umasa sa private sector na you maginvest
16:36.4
ka ng long term e mass transportation
16:38.5
system hindi kwan yan e yyung ating
16:40.6
elites kasi ay mga carpet buggers ang
16:43.3
ibig sabihin quick quick profit y ang
16:46.3
double nila yyung flood control yyung
16:48.8
mass transportation long term yyan no
16:51.7
yan yyung mga resulta ng social pct sa
16:54.4
Europe halimbawa for lack of a better
16:56.3
example nag-usap ang mga Capitalist ang
16:59.3
Labor and cooperatives and the state
17:02.6
Ah yung kita ng kanilang elites ay
17:06.0
dalhin sa doon kailangan ng vision kasi
17:08.5
Mark I understand na ayaw mo ng
17:10.7
ideological debat but sometimes kung
17:12.5
wala kang framework wala You're just G
17:15.3
to go autopilot mode kaya walang
17:17.3
fundamental change Tingnan mo Iyung
17:18.6
Vietnam Thailand lahat sila may
17:19.9
industrial strategy May May Land reform
17:23.4
lahat inayos nila yung basics e
17:25.1
infrastructure Hwa para ayusin mo ang
17:27.2
Laguna Lake yeah cistern na pwedeng
17:30.2
puntahan ng tubig ulan at the same time
17:32.6
create potable water create energy
17:36.0
create employment ang usapin diyan ay at
17:38.8
least 2 decades ' ba sino magi-invest
17:41.4
diyan na kapitalista wala Dahil ang
17:43.4
gusto nila yung kita mbilis boom boom
17:46.1
return and investment diyan Papasok yung
17:48.0
mga progressives diyan Papasok ang
17:49.9
estado no diyan kinakailangan ang
17:52.9
longterm vision na usually ang dala-dala
17:56.1
ng progressive movement hindi dala ng
17:59.4
maraming salamat Sir Ronald on that sana
18:01.0
tuloy-tuloy natin itong usapan hindi
18:03.2
ganyan Kakal survey pero makabayan medyo
18:07.2
talk on that note Thank you very much
18:08.9
guys and catch us soon RM in the house
18:13.3
yan ganda ganda ganda
