CONGRESSMAN JINKY LUISTRO vs FORMER PRESIDENT RODRIGO - CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY!
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drugs both legal and illegal as you have
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kas Mr President I wish to manifest
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responsibility unless there is no
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admit being behind all the killing
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incidents that transpired during the war
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on drugs it is therefore the humble
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submission of this representation Mr
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chair that with that statement coming
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acknowledges that all the killing
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incidents during the war on drugs
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spring from his order to kill drug
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personalities that is a manifestation Mr
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chair Mr chair I understand that the
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Resource speaker the former president is
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President May I request that you educate
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the Filipino people
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and I am certain that you understand
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what conspiracy theory is all
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about please educate us Mr
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President I may have some lapses
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already but I will give you the
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of the conspiracy to commit the Crime
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two or more persons
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de discuss to commit crime and
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it more or less ganon ang takbo ng ano
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Thank you Mr President and you will
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agree with me Mr President that under
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principal one is principal by inducement
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two is principal by indispensable
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cooperation and three principal by
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participation being a long time
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prosecutor Mr President Can you please
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be inducement could be
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man to kill her husband so that they can
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live forever happily ever
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after or a group of
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persons sindikato
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lahat What is illegal Ging
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the the conspirators of crime So you
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have expain Mr President
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principalement It Could Be money It
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Could Be An order a who have influence
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over another How about principle by
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direct participation Mr President
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agree with Uh one another to commit the
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crime and you participate thank you And
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how about principal by indispensable
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cooperation Well in the sense that for
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example If there is no way of traveling
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from one place to another and you are
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the only person who can provide the
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transportation a vehicle and that is
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would be indispensable cooperate
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without the vehicle you
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cannot Uh commit the Crime Thank you Mr
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President for enlightening us going back
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to your statement that you are taking
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full legal responsibility to all the
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victims of War on drugs both legal and
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illegal it is my humble submission Mr
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chair that the former
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considered liable for all this crimes
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under the theory of conspiracy by being
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adjustment I wish to manifest Mr chair
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order without the
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reward this police
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operatives should not have resulted to
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killing a huge number of victims of War
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drugs back to disagree with your prem ma
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I understand Mr President but that is a
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manifestation Yes but you know is
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supposed to do his Duty he he goes to
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school for two years he receive
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instructions to how to go about his
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Duty and we have to give the presumption
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regularity that's a principle Uh
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law Thank you Mr President agag every
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time na may ginawa kay in your favor is
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principle of regularity in presumption
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of regularity of performance of official
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Duty Mr President Thank you for your
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President I wish to ask with all the
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respect considering your statement of
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taking full legal
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responsibility both to legal and illegal
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activities can I equate this statement
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extrajudicial confession of guilt Well
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in sense Yes wala na akong magawa eh are
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you saying Yes Mr President Yes because
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I ordered the campaign against the drug
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syndicates at kung anong ginawa nila
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whether illegal or not it was ako ang
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nag-utos in that sense I take that
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responsibility of their
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actions Wala akong magawa e Commander
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ako nag-utos ako puntahan ninyo
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yan just like a Commander a military
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utusan mo p may nangyari diyan
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magkaso whether right or wrong EU yan EU
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talaga yan kung hindi ka naman Bubo na
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Mayor hindi mo iwanan yung tao na
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unless yung pumunta doon inutusan m
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mag-operate illegal gambling or mga
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droga tapos nagrape
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kung anong ginagawa na kabalastugan ah
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ako na mismo ang papatay Hindi na
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kailangan ng hintayin mo pa Mr President
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conform to my statement that I can
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equate your statement of taking full
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Regal responsibility as an
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extrajudicial confession of guilt you
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said yes to that yeah No I'm just
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reiterating the question Mr President
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not about guilt or a wrong what I'm
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saying is that yung lahat ng inutusan ko
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yyung war against drug o yyung isang
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platoon diyan o isang batalyon kung ano
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nila I take full responsibility for
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that Mr President you are surrounded by
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I Believe for lawyers Hindi ko na
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kailangan Ma'am because you la I can
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take of myself I can take care of myself
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and of course you understand the
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elements of an extrajudicial confession
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Yes you confirm that you are of sound
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mind and not only that of body Yes as
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well you confirm that your statement is
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yes and of course you confirm that you
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understand the consequences of your
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confession Hindi naman alam hindi naman
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ito kte so I understand Mr President
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That's why we call it extra judicial
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confession it is not a confession It is
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a statement coming from the mouth of a
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mayor or a President at that time it is
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not a confession you
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characterizing Mali Ma'am the only one
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do not do not characterize that as wrong
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palan The Only One That is missing among
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these elements is that it should be in
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writing and my question will be will you
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be willing to translate into writing the
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statement that you earlier
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said h na nga ako marunong yung pirma ko
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no hindi pirma ko ngayon But Of course
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you have a lawyers to help and assist
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you prepare this written document Hindi
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ko na kailangan yit ko pa writing dito
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documented by the records here magtanong
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na k ng magtanong Ano anong gusto mong
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criminal Mr President I wish to proceed
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to the to my Next question Do you know
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laod firing range
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Do you know Alam niyo po ba yung laod
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so hindi hindi Do you
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know nalalaman niyo po ba kung ano o
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Saan yung laod firing
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range Doon ako nagppractice
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para pumatay ng tao Thank
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you nagpra-practice po kayong bumar para
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pumatay ng tao and Alam niyo din po ba
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quari hindi ko n negosyo yan
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range but at least you are aware that
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laud firing range is situated in the
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laud quar within the premises and
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La premises of a qu there is aing range
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you confirm that Mr President that
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question Do you know Ben
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laud yes I think so Who is Ben laud si
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policeman he a Poli he owns the land he
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owns The land where the firing range is
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located and Do you remember Mr President
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chr during the time of the former
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chairman laya de Lima investigated and
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inspected this laud quarry Where they
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were able to discover human
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bones are you aware of
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who who investigated panahon po ni
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Chairman laya delima sa Commission on
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Human Rights sir I do not know here
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nag-imbestiga po ang
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chr tungkol sa extrajudicial killing
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kung saan nakadiskubre po ang taga-chr
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na mga buto ng katawan ng tao Kayo po ba
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dito I am aware of only one
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ni sino yung sinabi
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mo Bin chr forward share
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po And you are aware also
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that the former DOJ secretary vitaliano
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aguire represented Ben laud in the
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investigation of the extra juding case
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killing What do I know about the
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investigation or if you are aware Mr
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my are you associated Of course you are
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associated to vitaliano aguire as a
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matter of fact is
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contemporary sa eskwelahan And during
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your time you appointed him even as the
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DOJ secretary Tama po ba Yes because
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bright during the time Mr President you
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were the mayor Tama po
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mayor of the b City I cannot appoint a
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secretary hindi ako Mayor lang ako po So
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it has to be no let me rephrase my
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question Mr President somebody else's
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job not mine during the
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time when this extrajudicial killings
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happened you were the mayor Tama po ba
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iyon well not only during my time as
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Mayor Uh was there any point in time Mr
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President na pinaimbestigahan niyo po
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mga buto ng tao na nakita sa laod
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quar dala-dala nga ni ni Sino yon
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si hindi yung nag-imbestiga
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doon the chr Mr President o si chr Kayo
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po Baay nagpa imbestiga even during your
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time as Mayor or during your time as
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President pinaimbestigahan niyo po ba
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itong mga Buto na nakita sa laod
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quar Bakit ako magimbestiga ng mga buto
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diyan maraming buto ng tao na So you did
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investigation Mr President I will
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proceed to the next
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question on December 31
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2004 nag-conduct po ng raid ang pidea 11
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headed by superintendent wilkins
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Villanueva joined by of pidea Manila
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headquarter anim po yung Chinese na
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napatay but in addition to this
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Chinese a certain SPO4 Val
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Carillo apprehended Allan C along with
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companions based on the affidavit of Mr
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lascas Mr President
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killing of Mr Allan C along with the 10
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Companion that is not true that is job
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police hindi ko trabah magpatay there
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are two important observations in his
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affidavit Mr President ang sabi po niya
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100 million for the remaining eight
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personalities but when he tried to seek
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your permission you refused and you even
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said madami kayong Intel
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funds totoo yan kung bravery siguro y
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my are you confirming Mr President that
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las canas and sny Buenaventura sought
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your permission whether to release Alan
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and the 10 others in exchange of the 200
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million malaking peran
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totoo you are denying it Mr President of
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course but do you confirm that when
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you refuse this offer you even told
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Sunny Buenaventura
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and ulo lasas that you have ample Intel
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funds So you don't need those bribes if
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you call it bribe I do not remember
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making a statement like that but money
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for operations against crime malaki ang
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funding ng Davao City another important
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observation Mr President this 11
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personalities were asked as to the where
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was taken the operatives the 10 others
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ang sabi po nila hawak ng employer nila
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and the employer was named as Michael
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What can you say about
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this nothing to do with
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of the pide which happened in Davao
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shabu laboratory on December 31 2004
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where six Chinese personalities were
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killed during the raid and the 11 others
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were brought to laod quar where They
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were summarily executed and buried upon
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your order according to the testimony of
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Arturo lascas do not
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believe let me proceed to
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President in 1993 Mr
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President binomba po itong sa Peter's
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Cathedral in the vao city where seven
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died naalala niyo po ba
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ito and according to
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lasas point of Order what
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was Excuse me Attorney Delgra is
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coaching the President because she has
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been whispering in the ears of question
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what to find now Uh Attorney Delgra Uh
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please refrain from coaching the
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president is able to answer
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and only limited to
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advising client with rights nothing more
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nothing less I hope you Follow the rule
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Attorney Delgra Please proceed he does
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not have to coach me I know how to
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ba po ang St Peter's cathedral davao
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died naalala niyo po ba ito Mr
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President Yung simbahan Ma'am Opo St
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Peter's Cathedral in davo city at sang
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ayon po kay Arturo las canas kayo
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ay galit na galit sa pangyayaring ito
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Sinong hindi magalit ma'am at dahil po
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sa inyong mahigpit na galit ay niyo po
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itong sina lasas na bombahin ang mga
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mosque Kasama po ang kamara mosk at
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borean mosk What can you say about this
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that my mother is a
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Muslim that's an idiot statement In
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other words you are denying of course
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Mr President let me proceed to Jun pala
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broadcaster He is a
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broadcaster who used to criticize
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you during his programs Tama po ba
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everybody and according to the testimony
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lasas you ordered the killing of June
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pala niwala kay lasas lahat na ng
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participation ng crime niya
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kanya There's a pattern you know look at
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the pattern of the crimes kanya lahat ng
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ano do you believe that as a policeman
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I kan po Mr President I started my
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interpellation with acknowledging your
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courage in taking full legal
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responsibility to all the victims of War
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on drugs and you said both legal and
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illegal the reasons why I ask about laud
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quarry where human bones were found the
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reason why I ask about the dumoy raid
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where 11 Chinese personalities were
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summarily brought and killed to laud
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quari the reason about why I ask about
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the mosque bombing and the killing of
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substantiate the courage that I saw on
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you when you initially Expressed taking
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responsibility to all the victims of War
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on drugs both legal and illegal
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according to you you are
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substantiate Yes Mr President Where's
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your proof Mr President I'm anchoring my
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questions about the separate incidents
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from your initial statement that you are
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taking full legal
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responsibility to all the victims of war
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and drugs you said both legal and
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illegal Yes Mr President You are a long
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correct and of course is very
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fundamental upon us all lawyers the
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requirements of Jew process we are
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zeroing in on a particular individual
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now Jew process is the law which hears
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condemns Jew process is the law which
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requires notice and hearing if you say
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so Mr President I hope that we will be
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reminded That by Jew process the end
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does not justify the means
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kanina po tinanong din po kayo ni
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Brosas about the number of the victims
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of War on drugs tinanong po kayo about
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statistics and you lamented na hindi
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niyo po alam or dala yung records now I
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want to share to the public the
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statistics of the victims of War on
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are President This is from pidea
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I think this is a consolidated effort of
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karapatan global Witness National union
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of journalist of the Philippines the
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rappler and the Philippine drug and
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6252 individuals in police anti
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operations as of May
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including killed Vigil
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activist human rights defenders
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grassroot organizers as of December
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2021 land and environment defenders as
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166 journalist media workers as of April
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victims judges lawyers prosecutors as of
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victims and mayors Vice mayors as of
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2021 28 victims Mr
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President Mr President my question
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is when you implement war on
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drugs did you strictly comply with the
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requirement of Jew process
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chair I will wrap up Thank you Mr
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President Mr chair it is my humble
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submission that contrary to the answer
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of the former President I humbly believe
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that the former President and his war on
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drugs never complied with the
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requirements of DU process the statistic
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six show Mr President the huge number of
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victims of war and drugs if my memory
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serves me right during the time of
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Aquino administration there are like
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around 200 And during the present
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administration there are around like 200
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victims as well of War on
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drugs given this statistics Mr chair
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This is almost or around 31,000 victims
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of War drugs if indeed they follow the
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requirement of je process Wala po dapat
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patay at ang dapat maraming kaso na
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court I hope all of us will be
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reminded by the fundamental law that no
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person should be deprived of
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life Liberty and property without
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law by Mr President's own admission of
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accountability both to legal and illegal
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actions of the police it is the humble
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submission of this representation Mr
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chair that the Quad comom is ready to
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recommendation for the filing of the
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necessary action in court that is a
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violation of the law ra
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9851 act defining and penalizing crimes
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against international humanitarian law
29:07.9
or the very least the murder cases as
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defined under the revised pedal code to
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finally conclude Mr
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chair last series of questions to Mr
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President again to substantiate the
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courage that he was able to show during
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the initial part of this hearing Mr
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President in the past hearing of Quad
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may tatlo pong Chinese drug Lords na
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napatay sa Davao Penal colony Are you
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willing to take accountability and
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responsibility also for
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this Wala na ako niyan
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Ma'am nito na ako sa
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Maynila So you are saying No well kung
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gusto isal yan idagdag mo na okay lang
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how about the death of
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pscs secretary are you to take full
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legal responsibility for this do not I
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do not kill generals The Death of mayor
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aldong Parohinog and the 15 others as
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City are you taking full responsibility
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on this ak nagpatay ng mga Mayor Maam
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The Death of mayor espenosa of
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alera are you taking responsibility on
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place The Death of Tony Halili in
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tanawan city malayo yan sa akin Maam The
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Death of mayor Perez of Los
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bos lal na ibalik ko po doon sa una
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niyong sinabi if you're denying all this
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Alin po yung tinutukoy niyo when you
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said you are taking full legal
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responsibility to all the victims of war
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and drugs both legal and illegal Yes
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kasi order ko kasi yung that was my
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icamp against yung pinaghuhugutan e kasi
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alam mo Maraming stasyon maraming
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pulis kung nagkalit letse
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doon hindi ka maghugas ng
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kamay dapat sabihin mo akin diyan kasi
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nag of course nagkamali sila
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now if there is an appropriate
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action na gusto ninyo
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cour wala Nam matagal na yanung sabi
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extrajudicial extrajudicial
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killing I am challenging anybody or
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everybody who makes the
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accusation Whether it is really or not
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because may kte tayo and even if admit
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na totoo yan You have to go to court
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will make the admission there
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again are you saying Mr President that
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when we you go to court you're willing
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to admit also your accountability for
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all the debs during the war on drugs ay
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of course may abogado man ako Maam kung
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anong sabihin ng abogado Sunod
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ako i hope that everything that you said
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before the Quad can be reduced in
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writing so that truly we can believe
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that you're taking full legal
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responsibility to all the victims of War
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on drugs both legal and illegal because
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as lawyers We believe that by
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extrajudicial confession we have to put
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that in writing Mr President totoo yan I
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order the campaign against
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drugs policy of Government or of the
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President hindi maghugas ng kamay hindi
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department President last question If
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one of th days the icc will come will
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you voluntarily submit
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sil but you said a while ago that if
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somebody will sponsor your fair to the
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icc you will voluntarily submit yourself
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to their investigation and jurisdiction
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Yes k sila magta dito
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siain but will you confirm that you
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willing to submit voluntarily yourself
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to icc punta doon Sipain
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ko I Have Nothing further Mr chair Thank
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you Mr President Thank you Congresswoman