00:48.5
rest of the world dahil ah pag-uusapan
00:51.4
po natin Iyung inauguration ah for the
00:54.2
second time dahil ito po y kanyang
00:56.1
second stint sa white house ni ah US
01:00.6
President Donald trump kung nakita niyo
01:03.0
po yung ating teaser or social media
01:05.9
thumbnail kanina ang pinos kong question
01:08.6
doon is the world ready for Donald trump
01:12.7
2.0 Dahil kung napanood niyo po yyung
01:15.0
kanyang ah fiery na inaugural speech na
01:18.5
of course very in character and hindi
01:21.6
naman nalalayo sa kanyang demeanor ah
01:25.2
nung una siyang nag-deliver ng inaugural
01:27.0
address Pero dito kung ako yung
01:28.4
tatanungin niyo no parang mas ano eh mas
01:31.3
Ah mas matindi Yung kanyang pananakot
01:34.6
Although medyo malamya yung delivery
01:36.8
niya ng kanyang speech na simula pero of
01:39.1
course the usual Fire And brimstone
01:41.6
trump Style were there at nandon Iyung
01:45.1
ah of course He's prone to exaggerate a
01:48.1
lot of things no Uh like the world has
01:51.3
Never Seen before mga ganong kataga noo
01:53.9
He's prone to superlatives hihimayin po
01:56.4
natin yung kanyang mga sinabi sa kanyang
01:58.0
inaugural speech at Papaano kaya ito
02:00.2
makaapekto ah hindi lang of course for
02:02.5
the rest of the world ba dahil Baka
02:03.8
masyadong nebulus yung discussion pag
02:05.5
ganyan pag-uusapan natin ano rung epekto
02:07.3
rito sa sa ating bansa bilang ah
02:11.1
kaalyado ng United States makakasama po
02:14.7
natin ngayong gabi ah isa po siyang
02:17.6
ah public intellectual Dati po siyang ah
02:21.2
party list representative ng akbayan
02:23.4
Diyan po sa house of representatives
02:25.9
siya po yung co-chair ng Focus ah and co
02:30.0
founder ng focus on the global South and
02:32.5
he was the author He is the author of 26
02:35.0
books isa rin po siyang ah propesor ng
02:38.6
Sociology at ang kanyang pinakabagong
02:41.3
libro na lalabas po ay isang
02:43.0
autobiography Ang title po global
02:46.0
Battlefield I'd like to Welcome to our
02:48.1
program Again ah si Uh professor walden
02:52.0
bello Magandang gabi po sir nice to have
02:54.9
you again on fact first after a long
02:56.8
time yeah ah Magandang gabi ran ah Chris
03:00.2
and Thanks for inviting me i'm very
03:02.2
happy to be Uh back with you I remember
03:05.8
yung ating ating last episode was during
03:14.9
presidential Yeah Vice presidential
03:17.7
candidate ako And I made a certain
03:20.6
comment on your on your program that
03:25.2
um made it around the world including
03:28.0
doon sa program ni John Oliver Ah pero
03:32.2
siguro Hwag na natin uulit yung sinabi
03:34.2
ko pero tigan muna Sige Darating tayo
03:37.9
diyan as appropriate oo o doun sa m
03:40.8
nagwonder Ano ba yung sinabi niya ito
03:42.5
yung ano Merong sinabi si prof fen bion
03:46.2
na napakatindi about Bongbong Marcos na
03:50.0
nooy nangunguna sa presidential campaign
03:54.4
no siya candidate eventually siya yung
03:56.6
nanalo Okay pag-usapan po natin ito kasi
03:59.2
speaking of Bongbong Marcos as expected
04:01.8
he congratulated Donald trump Uh on his
04:04.8
Victory of course sinabi niya nandun
04:07.2
yung cooperation between the two
04:08.9
countries hindi naman siya balita pero
04:10.9
pag-usapan natin Ano po yung initial
04:12.5
impressions niyo doon sa inaugural
04:14.8
speech ni Donald trump kanina
04:17.5
po well um pinanood ko ito kagabi
04:23.1
um until around 2
04:31.4
ung delivery at speech niya kundi lang
04:34.5
ung mga reakson ng mga tao na naroroon
04:38.4
sa sa Gathering doon sa US capital no at
04:44.7
um well yung nasabi mo nga kanina is
04:48.5
that Ah maraming superlatives at
04:55.4
ah sinabi niya kung ano yung
04:58.1
ah mga primary points doon sa agenda
05:03.8
um well Yun nga ang pag-usapan natin
05:06.8
kasi talagang yung mga ibang sinabi niya
05:09.9
e talagang mga Matindi no at
05:13.7
Ah very controversial no so but we can
05:18.1
Begin with whatever you want to begin
05:20.1
with at this point doon sa speech doon
05:22.8
muna tayo sa ano po d sa demeanor kasi
05:25.2
nga tsaka yung mga uma nand yung mga
05:30.5
meron silang seat doon sa sa Gathering
05:34.2
na iyon no tapos of course before that
05:36.6
yung si Elon Musk naging controversial
05:39.2
Yung kanyang What many people thought
05:42.0
was a na Salute no Pero anyway ito iyung
05:44.1
mga Sid shows no pero inung terms of the
05:46.2
delivery what do you think of that no
05:48.0
were you even surprised that This was
05:49.6
the kind of speech that he delivered for
05:51.6
his second inaugural
05:54.0
speech well to be honest I was
05:57.5
um Uh um expecting na yung sa style niya
06:03.1
magiging galit no pero ngayon Mukhang
06:07.7
hindi masyadong galit you know ah muk
06:11.1
inantok ng simula Eh mukha inantok kaga
06:13.4
Oo nga mukha yatang ah mukha yatang may
06:19.3
nagsabi sa kanya You have to realize
06:22.0
this occasion no is an inauguration This
06:24.9
is not a campaign rally no so mukha
06:27.4
yatang nag-adjust siya ng konti Ron sa
06:30.7
delivery niya pero matindi pa rin kasi
06:33.8
ung mga ung mga naroroon si biden at si
06:38.4
Vice President Harris eh talagang panay
06:41.9
ang tira sa kanya sa kanila no so I was
06:45.6
nga watching yyung
06:47.4
dalawa kasi almost the whole speech was
06:51.0
a criticism of yyung policies nila eh
06:54.3
well They were just sitting there very
06:56.6
stony faced you pero talagang
07:00.9
Yeah Kasi sabi nga nila usually mga
07:02.9
ganyan inauguration speeches in the past
07:06.2
is you you're supposed to rise above
07:08.9
partisan politics but Uh Pero ito si
07:12.3
trump Uh well He's very partisan and he
07:15.8
was not going to let any
07:18.2
president in the past um constrain him
07:23.6
Um yung the points that he was
07:26.8
articulating were also very strong
07:30.0
criticisms of his predecessors Yeah
07:33.9
tsaka of course doun sa isang bahagi ng
07:35.9
kanyang speech ah he described himself
07:38.4
as a peacemaker and a unifier no
07:42.3
Although that have to to be seen kasi
07:46.2
isa sa mga sinasabi niya roon America
07:49.0
parang hindi siya yung ano hindi siya
07:51.0
sasali sa mga gyera at pahihintuin niya
07:54.4
yung mga existing Wars that the America
07:57.0
that the United States is involved in
07:58.4
What do you think of that
08:02.2
um in fact sinabi na niya ito before the
08:06.0
um Uh before the inauguration no and it
08:09.9
was much commented on at
08:14.8
ang yyung sinabi nga niya that I will
08:17.7
not Involve the United States in New
08:21.4
unnecessary Wars no and
08:25.0
um pag-aralan natin yan na Matindi kasi
08:30.9
Mukhang may signal diyan doon sa kay
08:35.4
zelensky sa Ukraine no na ah he'll not
08:41.3
get the kind of unqualified support na
08:44.8
ibinigay ni biden sa kanya no yeah ah
08:47.9
meron rin yatang message diyan
08:51.7
ah to um ah Israel and The Other mid
09:00.7
do not you know I'll be more
09:02.7
unpredictable you cannot predict what
09:04.8
I'm gna do there no kaya nga mukha
09:09.4
yatang napilitan Ah si netanyahu to push
09:15.6
yung ceas fire deal no Kasi may pagka
09:19.3
unpredictable yan ah pero para sa
09:23.1
ating ba parang they had to give
09:25.1
something for trump ahead of the
09:26.9
inauguration yeah yeah to to um in fact
09:30.6
nag-aaway nga diyan yyung mga aids ni
09:32.7
trump at aids ni biden who was more
09:34.7
responsible for for the peace deal and
09:37.1
apparently ah Iyung media ay sinabi na
09:40.0
talagang si trump ah you know his his
09:44.5
trump was the factor that push that two
09:48.1
players to the to the to the conference
09:51.8
to to the agreement no pero kasi per
09:54.5
days before nag-claim credit na si trump
09:56.3
eh ' ba sinabi niya na yun eh yeah yeah
10:00.0
um unahan kasi yan eh Eh mahusay naman
10:03.7
si trump sa unahan Ah pero yung
10:07.6
important para sa atin is Ano nga yung
10:11.2
magiging policy niya rito sa UM Asia
10:15.4
Pacific no extending from Japan and
10:18.3
Korea down to the philippines no at
10:23.8
um pag titignan mo pag pinar natin ung
10:29.3
yung I will not get involved in an
10:31.4
unnecessary Wars um Uh that's a very
10:36.1
pregnant Uh a statement very pregnant
10:39.0
with meaning no So kaya nga ah if you
10:43.4
combine that with the past ah na alam mo
10:47.9
naman malapit siya kay Kim jong-un sa
10:51.7
um and in fact he crossed the the
10:54.9
militarized zone no 2019
11:00.0
Yeah to to Pat Kim Jong on the back and
11:03.7
Kaya nga natatakot ang South Korea at
11:06.0
ang Japan ngayon na baka magkaroon ng
11:09.1
isang deal that would lower the military
11:12.4
profile of the United States there now
11:14.8
further South dito I think
11:19.4
um we cannot take for granted na
11:24.5
itutuloy ni trump yung us policy of um
11:29.6
unqualified support I mean the biden
11:33.2
policy of unqualified support for the
11:35.2
Marcus administration no If you remember
11:39.8
um during his um some time ago
11:44.6
um when he was asked in some by the
11:48.3
media about Ano ba yyung tingin niya
11:50.6
roon sa South China se conflict he he
11:54.2
said na Well I would not waste One
11:58.4
American life for those Rocks in the
12:01.4
South China Sea So if you combine that
12:04.7
with the fact that Alam mo naman to si
12:07.3
trump napaka personalistic yan At alam
12:10.1
naman nian na si Harris and si biden and
12:13.1
Marcos JR very close no ah then um sa
12:18.6
akin i would not I I would have a big
12:23.4
question mark kung ano ba talagang
12:25.9
gagawin ni trump with respect to yung
12:30.4
South China Sea and with Taiwan and with
12:34.0
Taiwan no So that's that's that's that's
12:37.2
my sense pero ang tanong ko prof no Kasi
12:39.8
If You Go by the previous trump
12:42.2
administration parang wala naman
12:44.0
talagang major shift in terms of us
12:46.0
policy diyan sa South China Sea Uh there
12:49.1
was a consistent consistency in a way
12:52.0
Hindi naman sila umalis Diyan especially
12:54.1
after the pivot during the Obama
12:56.3
administration ang tanong ko Why would
12:58.4
be any different now Especially if Uh
13:01.7
the United States according to trump
13:03.6
wants to reestablish itself ' ba on the
13:06.8
world stage dahil kine-claim niya kasi
13:08.6
parang ah humina yyung America eh sa sa
13:11.8
global stage eh if that is one of his
13:13.9
goals Why would he step back a bit from
13:17.4
this Uh conflict in the South China Sea
13:20.2
of course We're not talking about
13:21.9
wasting American or any other
13:24.7
nationality dahil hindi naman ung gusto
13:27.0
natin pero my point is as a matter of
13:28.6
policy I would even consider perhaps a
13:33.9
shift well This is where ah it's quite
13:40.1
ang sense ko nga may pagka unpredictable
13:42.6
no Kasi pag tinignan natin yung um iung
13:47.5
first trump administration Uh when we
13:50.8
look at that Iyung Asia Pacific policy
13:55.3
um was quite radical ah
14:01.8
unang-una Iyung first thing that he did
14:05.3
when he reached the White House then was
14:07.7
to cancel Iyung transpacific
14:10.6
partnership na had been backed by
14:13.4
democrats and republicans Kasi sabi niya
14:15.9
talagang Masama yan for the United
14:17.3
States for American workers no and then
14:22.1
um Uh while he declared um
14:28.0
um while he declared um
14:31.8
uh what you call this now while he
14:35.4
declared you know that
14:37.9
um Iyung trade war um on China and
14:43.0
technology war that was then pursued
14:45.2
also by biden Uh there was no
14:47.9
significant military escalation that
14:51.2
took place then Uh during his time no in
14:54.5
fact yung military escalation of
14:56.4
containment of China Uh became very Mark
14:59.5
lang under Ah si Uh biden no mm ah and
15:05.3
um the third thing is
15:08.3
um malakas Iyung isolation is based ni
15:13.6
basically People who don't want the
15:17.0
United States to become Uh engaged
15:20.7
globally and would like to Focus more on
15:23.4
the United States no So if we look at
15:27.0
his statement about making a America
15:32.9
um if you if you look at the concrete
15:37.2
programmatic um things that he outlined
15:40.9
Uh there mukh yatang ang emphasis niya
15:45.5
mainly Uh in the Western hemisphere no
15:50.4
ah he talked about Panama Canal he
15:53.6
talked about Mexico
15:56.2
um but i he he He was quite silent
16:01.6
really about the Asia Pacific no so
16:05.5
mukha yat ang sense ko lang ang sense ko
16:15.7
bagong yung yung strategy strategy ni
16:19.2
trump na naka-focus on what his base
16:25.2
be essential American interest and
16:28.0
that's mainly fortifying yung sinabi ko
16:30.5
nga ah yung fortress America that is
16:34.2
hostile to global trade to migration and
16:38.8
to engagements abroad So that's why ang
16:43.6
sense ko lang is that um Uh we should
16:48.9
not think that biden policy of
16:53.5
heightened military escalation to
16:56.1
contain China will necessarily Be
16:59.7
Continued by trump Although I would say
17:02.6
when it comes to trade to tariffs Okay
17:06.0
Uh technology Ah yun talaga naka-focus
17:09.6
si trump so This is my my sense Yeah
17:14.9
when you talk about tariff no 25% ang
17:17.3
kanyang iniimpose or balak I impose Okay
17:21.0
ito ah prof no Kasi gusto ko R balikan
17:24.0
no yung sinabi ni ito He was already
17:26.4
confirmed by the Senate si marco Rubio
17:28.3
dati lang kasama siya na yung ah
17:30.9
secretary of state pero meron siyang
17:34.7
very ano very I would think unequivocal
17:38.3
Uh position regarding China's
17:41.2
Uh actuations dito sa West Philippines
17:44.2
or South China sabi niya the actions
17:46.0
they are taking now Are deeply
17:47.6
destabilizing They're forcing us to take
17:50.2
counter actions because we have
17:51.6
commitments to the Philippines and we
17:53.2
have commitments to Taiwan binanggit
17:55.2
niya that we intend to keep if they want
17:57.8
to destabilize the relationship or they
17:59.8
want to at least create some pathway for
18:02.7
stabilization of our relationship with
18:04.9
them they really need to stop messing
18:06.8
around with Taiwan and with the
18:09.0
Philippines because it's forcing us to
18:11.1
Focus our attention in ways we prefer
18:14.1
not to have to So kung medyo vague si
18:16.8
trump doon sa ano do you think this
18:18.5
particular statement Although This was
18:19.8
before the inauguration do you think
18:21.9
they somehow put some
18:26.2
well pag Tingan mo yung M
18:29.6
ah administration members ni trump noon
18:33.6
first trump administration ah both sa
18:37.8
defense department in the state Uh these
18:41.3
were people who were Hawks you know when
18:44.4
It came to Iyung us so-called
18:47.8
commitments in the Asia Pacific No but
18:51.8
if you remember Christian Many of them
18:54.4
were either dismissed or retired Uh
18:58.2
because um They they could not um Uh
19:02.8
take trump's unpredictability no Uh Ang
19:06.9
dami niyang Naf na cabinet members Uh
19:10.8
and also or people who resigned no and
19:14.8
it's very clear na yyung mga people that
19:17.6
were identified with the hawkish wing Uh
19:22.9
of the Republican party like yung former
19:25.4
vice president si dick ch a lot of the
19:28.8
them left the party because they felt
19:31.1
that trump was not going to respect Uh
19:35.6
us commitments abroad He was basically
19:39.0
saying that if you want us to defend you
19:40.8
You have to pay Yeah he didn't like nato
19:44.0
and said that he was going to withdraw
19:45.8
from nato and then um you know he he
19:50.5
pushed the Koreans and the Japanese to
19:53.9
up their level of spending na parang
19:57.2
transactional so um ngayon when it comes
20:01.0
to Rubio Alam mo naman to um I would not
20:09.3
um put too much emphasis on what this
20:13.2
people say because basically Uh They're
20:17.4
basically serving Uh at the pleasure of
20:22.5
trump no and um let's face it No I mean
20:27.2
They have their own ideas
20:29.2
but it's going to be trump's ideas or
20:32.4
his view that will win out Uh that will
20:36.0
determine how they will Act No so ang
20:39.6
sense ko lang diyan is not to put too
20:42.0
much on the personal political views of
20:44.2
this people but really see what trump
20:49.0
would like to do because my sense is mga
20:52.2
mga taong kagaya ni Mark Rubio sila
20:54.6
Peter hegseth no Who was being
20:57.7
considered for secretary of defense
21:00.8
their views are very Yeah Oo their
21:03.7
defense m the their
21:06.5
their ideas or ideologies very malleable
21:10.4
and sabi nga ng ah sabi nga nung former
21:15.9
National Security adviser si Bolton John
21:18.9
Bolton uh what trump wants Uh is not um
21:26.2
is not brains or good analysis he wants
21:30.5
personal filty as like a king no And
21:33.9
that's really What is very Uh that's
21:37.3
what very marked about trump that um um
21:41.4
dito sa new administration niya Uh if
21:44.6
there are the old the you know I think
21:46.7
he will be he will not He will make sure
21:53.8
internationalist cold Warriors etc
21:56.5
conservative new conservatives um will
21:59.9
not make a mess of what he wants to do
22:02.7
in his second term because they tried to
22:05.0
make a mess of it in his first term so
22:07.7
ang ang sense ko lang is Iyung
22:10.2
personality factor ni trump rito is
22:12.9
extremely important and his
22:15.2
unpredictability is very important So if
22:18.0
i were in malakanyang at this point I
22:21.3
would worry frankly Uh about the future
22:26.1
of the US Philippine relationship under
22:30.9
because you think our position here
22:33.9
Might Be compromised or pati even sa
22:35.8
trade What exactly are you saying are
22:38.1
you just talking about the was both in
22:39.6
trade Yeah both with trade as well as
22:43.7
Alam mo in April no ah Si Bongbong um
22:49.5
and um ishida and and and Uh and yung of
22:59.1
Uh biden had a trilateral meeting in
23:01.9
Washington where Yeah where um basically
23:05.9
biden said I have an iron clad
23:08.5
commitment Uh to defending Japan and the
23:11.6
philippines no my sense is that What
23:15.3
That's not necessarily true under trump
23:18.8
and Uh ambassador romales Uh has been
23:23.0
releasing statements that the old
23:25.2
partnership under biden is going to
23:28.1
remain in the same I would not take that
23:31.4
for granted frankly This is a very
23:34.5
unpredictable guy and He Could very and
23:37.5
you know he is playing to a large part
23:40.4
of his base that is sick of Global
23:43.6
engagements in fact that was one of his
23:47.0
campaign themes that he was you know he
23:50.5
was going to um disengage at the United
23:54.8
States from unnecessary commitments
23:57.2
abroad no so So um ang sense ko lang is
24:01.5
that apart from the western hemisphere
24:04.5
no ah um you know who monro doctrine
24:08.7
yyan eh you know Latin America South
24:10.9
America Uh and North
24:14.0
America you know There Will Be A certain
24:16.6
fluidity in the way that the trump
24:19.0
administration will deal with the rest
24:20.9
of the world no Ah so that's my sense
24:24.6
again ang sinasabi ko nga ah trump is um
24:31.2
personified No but having said that I
24:35.2
would also say that he and JD van his
24:39.3
Vice President are very sensitive to the
24:42.1
isolationist instincts of a large part
24:45.3
of the make America great base no So
24:49.5
that's my That's my sense at this point
24:53.1
na sinabi nga ng economist um yung
24:56.7
latest issue nila and This Is Where I
24:59.3
agree in fact I even thought that they
25:01.4
read an article that I did no Uh is that
25:07.8
Uh foreign policy of the United States
25:10.9
of global engagement on different fronts
25:14.9
Wherever as the economist said Uh
25:18.0
freedom is in trouble trump is now going
25:21.5
to reverse that no So um that's Uh
25:26.0
That's my sense Uh of what's going to to
25:29.0
happen okay that remains to be See no
25:32.2
especially kung magtuloy or what kind of
25:34.1
Uh military assistance the Philippines
25:36.1
would get ah kung anong mangyayari sa
25:37.8
edc sites etc etc pero Let's move on to
25:40.4
another part of his speech No I think
25:42.6
maraming Pilipino rin iyung ah
25:44.6
nakapansin dito yung ah I would say
25:48.2
yyung battle ni trump against wokeness
25:50.6
yung sabi niya I will also end the
25:53.5
government policy of trying to socially
25:55.8
engineer race and gender into every
25:58.9
aspect of public and private life We
26:01.3
will Forge a society that is color blind
26:04.7
and merit-based as of today sabi niya It
26:08.3
will henceforth be the official policy
26:10.9
of the United States government that
26:12.5
there are only two genders male and
26:16.8
female So basically this pertains to the
26:19.4
diversity programs na matagal na ring
26:22.2
nandyan no as far as the United States
26:24.0
is concerned What do you think of this
26:29.0
Well I Uh I think
26:32.3
that he could not be more clear about
26:36.3
where his views are with respect you
26:40.2
know to the gender issue and it's a
26:43.8
Fairly backward If You might you know
26:47.2
it's a Fairly backward view in the sense
26:49.9
talagang you know when it comes to the
26:52.3
gender question you know we are talking
26:54.7
about something that um has is quite
26:58.3
fluid in terms of um you know the you
27:02.6
know how how people have already come to
27:05.2
think about it no Uh and
27:11.9
um when he said that one thing that was
27:14.8
On My Mind was in the 19 I mean in the
27:18.6
2016 Republican convention
27:22.1
um There Was um Uh a platform statement
27:27.2
about respect for
27:29.3
lgbt rights and trump said I remember
27:32.9
then he says that he was very happy that
27:35.6
that was on the platform no So um What's
27:40.8
his personal view Uh regarding
27:45.0
lgbt the thing He was expressing last Uh
27:49.0
night Uh or was it Uh a political kind
27:54.7
of statement to satisfy Uh part of his
27:58.5
base that is quite conservative when it
28:00.8
comes to Uh you know gender identity
28:04.5
issues no So that's for me um
28:08.6
Uh a question no so definitely ang sense
28:14.0
de programs um are in very great danger
28:19.7
Uh at this point in time but especially
28:23.1
within the military and if itong si
28:25.7
hegseth Who's the nominee for for Uh
28:29.4
defense Uh defense secretary He's been
28:33.8
very clear about that yung ending Dei Uh
28:39.1
um Dei considerations when it comes to
28:43.4
the military and Uh basically Uh maybe
28:47.9
trump and heg said see eye to eye here
28:51.1
that Uh when he said that the military's
28:54.4
function must be to fight Wars not to
28:57.7
push Dei no so Focus On The
29:01.6
Mission Focus On The Mission Yeah so I I
29:04.7
would think that um Dei programs will
29:08.2
across the board be Uh in in great
29:11.7
danger Uh ang ang sense ko rin dito is
29:19.3
um when we look at you know um ang my
29:24.5
sense is There's a great deal of racism
29:28.8
you know Uh and um there's that's also
29:33.8
tied up to the um immigration issue so
29:38.6
my sense is that even if more latinos
29:42.2
have voted for him Uh And there's
29:45.4
supposed to be an openness to him in the
29:48.3
black community and of course we know
29:50.1
many Filipinos voted for him
29:52.5
nevertheless I think that it will be not
29:55.4
a very good time for minorities in the
29:57.5
United St states that this will be
30:01.0
basically If You Look at trump's
30:03.3
speeches and his um his rally speeches
30:08.2
It's basically very much white America
30:12.0
ang ang nagiging appeal niya you know ah
30:15.5
especially the white working class Okay
30:18.1
pero yun nga across the board panalo
30:20.0
siya eh so clear na nakuha niya yung
30:22.0
popular vote tsaka yyung electoral
30:23.3
college vote nandon din yyung support
30:25.4
from the latinos etc etc ang tanong ko
30:28.5
rito prof no What are we not seeing here
30:30.6
kasi I also have conversations with our
30:33.4
country men yung mga filipino Americans
30:36.6
and most of them Actually are in support
30:38.6
of this policy by Donald trump when it
30:40.2
comes to immigration especially kanina '
30:42.8
ba sinabi niya or kagabi Actually kanina
30:44.7
ginagamit ko dahil madaling araw e sabi
30:47.0
niya National emergency yung illegal
30:48.8
immigration do sa Southern border nila
30:51.3
Tapos ah gusto niya capital ung ung mga
30:55.5
basically illegally nasa United States
30:59.2
mag-commit ng capital crimes dapat death
31:01.5
penalty para sa kanya at saka yung mga
31:04.0
papatay na mga law enforcers Hindi naman
31:07.4
to sikreto yyung mga kanyang mga
31:09.2
position sa binitawan niya no pero when
31:11.1
it comes to immigration What are we not
31:12.9
seeing here especially sinasabi niya O
31:14.9
di ba terrorista yang kartel na yan
31:17.6
tapos yung mga foreigners na mga foreign
31:19.9
gangs na nandito I mean technically di
31:23.0
ba okay yun pero Why is why is he also
31:26.6
getting a lot of heat when it comes to
31:29.1
that well The thing is this
31:33.2
um may kahalong racism kasi iyan If you
31:37.1
remember um there was that statement He
31:40.3
made that you know he would prefer
31:42.8
migrants from Norway no Uh and not from
31:46.6
what he said shithole countries no
31:49.2
meaning the colored countries in the
31:51.7
world which is the majority no so my
31:54.9
visceral Uh anti um you know racist ang
32:02.1
ang you know there was racism there that
32:04.9
was involved no ngayon Uh in terms of um
32:08.8
Uh Iyung support for his migration
32:12.3
policies that's really true No because
32:14.9
in the sense na there had been a lot of
32:19.3
migrants that have already stabilize
32:22.0
their situation um in in terms of the
32:25.7
papers No that bas
32:28.4
are saying that Hey We went through the
32:30.7
process and Why can't the others go
32:33.3
through that process no so very
32:35.4
appealing yung argument na Ian to um um
32:40.5
you know to many migrants um you
32:46.6
know dagdag ko lang isa rin sa mga
32:48.9
nadidinig ko sa mga kausap ko nadadamay
32:51.0
pa raw sila because they went through
32:52.4
the process tapos because of this
32:54.8
illegal Uh immigrants pati sila
32:58.8
na-praning that they were also talking
33:01.5
about yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah no
33:03.9
definitely um You know there's so it's
33:07.5
it's Iyung reactions of the minority
33:10.7
communities has been a bit complex no ah
33:14.1
kasi ngaung yyung appeal na iyan na We
33:17.0
went through the process but the others
33:19.2
are not going through it and yet They're
33:20.7
going to the front of the line that's of
33:22.5
course there's a lot of distortion in
33:24.8
that no ngayon I think the problem here
33:28.0
um um Uh Christian is that Ah yung
33:33.6
democrats kasi They were not able to
33:36.3
articulate a clear policy on migration
33:40.2
no Uh you know it was there was no clear
33:44.4
policy and if you don't have a clear
33:47.4
policy you had people very ready to
33:51.2
accept yung anti immigrant message ni
33:53.8
trump no so it's not just yung right
33:56.8
wing kind of Uh racist and Anti migrant
34:01.6
kind of nativist perspective but that
34:04.6
democrats did not give people a policy
34:08.5
to hang on to that was rational you know
34:12.8
that Uh people could say that you know
34:16.1
That's a policy that makes sense No
34:18.8
that's policy that's really Yeah that's
34:21.6
a better policy We will you know you
34:24.6
know I mean I We need not go through
34:26.8
What would be the key Points of that
34:29.0
policy but the point is there was no
34:31.8
policy and you know i you know kasi I
34:35.1
every spring no um Christian I go to the
34:38.5
United States to teach no and
34:42.3
um for the last 4 years pupunta ka roon
34:47.6
Anong makikita mo
34:49.3
unang-una hindi nila kontrolado yung
34:52.3
price inflation was running wild no um
34:57.8
pupunta ngaa supermarket nakasimangot
35:00.0
lahat kasi ah Ang taas nung rising
35:04.0
pangalawa every night nando doon yung
35:07.6
nando doon yyung pictures na doon sa
35:11.6
border in Mexico na
35:14.2
um pinapakita na uncontrolled yung
35:18.2
migration Yun yung nakikita mo sa TV
35:20.3
that goes every evening in into the
35:24.2
American living room no pangatlo is that
35:28.9
every night you had pictures of War
35:31.3
Whether it was Ukraine or Gaza or what
35:33.5
no So basically if you are an ordinary
35:37.2
American where boom nakikita mo lang
35:41.3
talaga pagpunta mo sa supermarket
35:43.3
tumataas yyung presyo pangalawa mukhang
35:46.9
uncontrolled na iyung Southern border mo
35:50.7
kasi walang policy and three is that Uh
35:55.6
all every evening merong war on Ukraine
35:59.2
my war on Gaza at maraming mga anti-war
36:02.3
protests um So if you're an ordinary
36:05.3
American you would basically i i think
36:08.2
put yourself ah na malakas Iyung appeal
36:11.4
ni trump and Why would you vote for the
36:14.9
democrats if They're not able to control
36:17.6
you know this major elements Uh of life
36:20.4
No so Iyun Iyung sense ko lang na na na
36:25.3
hindi lang yung right wi appeal
36:28.3
kund the democrats inability to offer a
36:32.8
real program that would appeal to people
36:36.3
So basically G issues naman talaga nagde
36:38.4
nung huling election sa United States Di
36:41.3
ba nakikita Gaano
36:43.4
kataas so ito moving forward marami
36:45.9
tayong pwed mahar rito no Although I
36:48.4
want this things to be more pointed in
36:50.0
the coming episodes isa sa mga
36:52.0
objectionable talaga na ginawa niya
36:53.7
kanina Ay yung ah kanyang pag-on sa
36:58.2
1,500 rioters doon sa capital ng
37:01.6
2021 that to me was mm very very
37:05.2
disappointing to say the least and um of
37:08.6
course ang nangyari dito overtaken by
37:10.8
events sa kasi Iyung possible indictment
37:12.6
niya in relation to that pero malaking
37:15.0
issue yun dahil isang nung Natalo siya
37:17.0
Hindi niya tinatanggap yyung pagkatalo
37:18.6
and then if if our viewers remember
37:21.6
during that riot no He was trying to
37:23.4
distance himself from that Although
37:25.3
clearly nand Yung kanyang inf over this
37:29.0
people that's why they stormed the
37:31.4
capital yun Ang saakin no prof I think
37:33.7
that's something that We also have to
37:34.9
talk about dahil isa yun sa mga
37:37.0
significant moves niya Uh on day one sa
37:44.3
well it was naman clear that you know
37:48.1
even before he made his move a few hours
37:50.8
ago you know that you know he would
37:54.0
pardon this people No I mean that was
37:56.2
that was Uh for me you know it would
37:59.8
have been it was expected and among the
38:04.4
maga people It was taken for granted
38:06.6
that that This Would Be one of the first
38:08.6
things that he would do and I know that
38:11.1
you and I um Uh have um have Uh
38:16.8
um I know that you and I are um you know
38:20.5
have problems with this I do have
38:22.3
problems with this kasi insurgency yan
38:24.6
eh Uh but nevertheless let me just say
38:27.5
that I think it was widely expected no
38:31.3
um and um I I think the reason that to
38:36.4
some extent na- mute yyan ah
38:40.3
kasi yesterday ah nagbigay rin si biden
38:44.9
ng blanket pardon to his family No I
38:48.8
don't know the details about now hindi
38:51.1
lang sa anak niya but she's you know
38:53.2
family members you know who Might Be
38:55.4
subjected to prosecution no so Uh I mean
38:59.5
It's nacheck nga siya roon eh nacheck sa
39:02.2
Twitter yan e yeah What you know
39:06.1
whatever you know what I mean you know
39:08.7
So basically itong itong pardons um one
39:13.9
Uh you know with respect to biden even
39:17.9
many of his supporters didn't like the
39:20.0
fact that he went back on his promise
39:22.6
not to pardon his son Uh and with
39:26.3
respect to trump I I think that yeah
39:29.6
basically the democrats were really ups
39:31.7
um and the democratic base was upset
39:34.4
with that but nevertheless my sense is
39:37.8
that I would have been surprised If This
39:39.9
was not going one of to to be the first
39:42.7
things that he would do I fully disagree
39:45.0
with it buse you know that was Uh that
39:47.9
that was an Em insurgency that he
39:50.5
encouraged but Uh it was widely expected
39:53.8
even before last you know the few hour a
39:57.5
few hours go yeah yeah kumbaga very Ano
40:00.1
yun very un very expected naman talaga
40:03.0
well Maraming salamat prof walden bello
40:05.7
kasi ayoko na masyadong ano
40:08.6
ah tawag dito nirereserba ako iba't
40:12.5
ibang aspects ng kanyang inaugural
40:14.1
speech ah for subsequent episodes para
40:17.0
medyo pointed tayo Nono in the meantime
40:19.4
really I really appreciate your Uh
40:22.0
you're accepting my invitation to this
40:23.7
Uh discussion tonight Maraming maraming
40:26.2
salamat po and nice to see you again sir
40:29.4
okay and Thanks Uh Christian i'm very
40:32.8
happy to be on your show and maybe one
40:35.6
of these days we can revisit that
40:37.9
controversial statement that I made that
40:40.5
Maski si John Oliver Uh John Oliver made
40:44.1
it his Uh the banner of his show in the
40:49.0
United States you saw that so thanks to
40:51.8
you i i Thanks to you Christian I got a
40:58.2
salamat Sige po okay sigee thank you
41:01.3
Thank you si professor Wal B
41:05.3
okay okay ano ano bang tingin niyo mga
41:09.3
ah nababasa ko yung mga comments ni
41:13.6
dito yung tinutukoy niya kasi actually i
41:16.9
interviewed him during the Uh 2022
41:20.3
campaign kung saan yung tumatakbo siya
41:22.6
for Vice President Di ba meron siyang
41:25.0
binitawan na napakalakas nakataga
41:27.9
against Bongbong Marcos and it made
41:30.0
rounds Uh of social media but Of course
41:34.4
Uh not just in the Philippines but
41:37.6
internationally Minura niya kasi Si
41:40.0
Bongbong Marcos out of frustration and
41:42.6
that was very Typical of ano kumbaga ano
41:45.3
Ian e ganyan talaga si walden bello he
41:47.8
speaks his mind Okay so Oo maganda
41:52.7
napanood niyo ba yung inaugural speech
41:54.9
niya no ni Donald trump kanina kumawa
41:57.2
Wala naman talagang unexpected dun sa
41:58.8
mga sinabi niya kanina May mga bagay
42:00.9
doun na nag-aagree ako pero may mga
42:02.6
bagay din that I found objectionable
42:04.5
especially nga yung pagpa-party roon sa
42:07.5
1,500 na ano na rioters n sa capital
42:12.3
pero Bukod doun sa pagtingin natin doun
42:14.8
sa mga sinabi nion how it would affect
42:16.4
the United States especially this Uh
42:18.8
nativist or isolationist policy by
42:21.3
Donald trump which is of course
42:22.8
something that he has been articulating
42:25.0
for So long tingnan natin kung ano
42:26.6
maging effect nito doon sa ating
42:28.5
interest because That's a more important
42:30.6
thing example magkakaroon ba ng
42:57.2
Uh partners ng United States Eh yun ang
43:01.1
yun ang ganon ang pagtingin niya So you
43:02.8
have to shell out you have to do more
43:04.6
hindi yung puro kami lang so sa domestic
43:07.2
audience niya That's good pero for
43:09.4
international partners That's not
43:11.5
necessarily good pero ang iniisip ko
43:14.2
lang kung transactional talaga ang
43:15.6
kanyang pagtingin dito I think he he
43:18.6
should also consider and I think he
43:20.3
knows this and his advisors know this
43:22.7
how important strategically the
43:24.3
Philippines is to United States interest
43:27.1
in the indo Pacific so ako naman ang
43:30.1
honest opinion ko diyan Although marami
43:32.0
nga nagsasabi na unpredictable pero sa
43:34.1
akin Uh this unpredictability might take
43:37.3
a back seat when um when Uh once he
43:41.4
realize The integrity of how important
43:43.5
it is for the United States to keep the
43:46.0
Philippines protected and on its side
43:51.0
Uh regarding China ang tina-target kong
43:55.4
susunod na makausap dito ay si
43:57.6
ambad romualdes para tingnan natin Ano
44:00.9
ba yung siya y may detalye yan
44:03.0
supposedly ' ba Ano ba yung titingnan
44:05.4
natin for the next 4 years when it comes
44:10.3
to Philippine us relations especially
44:13.7
when it comes to the West Philippines
44:15.6
Yan pag-uusapan po natin yan tapos in
44:18.6
the coming days pag-uusapan natin itong
44:20.4
um alleg Chinese spy na naaresto po
44:25.4
pag-usapan natin yan
44:36.1
Ah okay mga mga bansang busit na busit
44:40.4
ngayon of course Panama Canada China
44:46.7
ba of course yung mga pumirma doon sa
44:49.8
Paris Climate agreement pero dati na
44:52.5
namang inatras ni Donald trump yung
44:55.4
bansa nila diyan e okay Okay bago po
44:59.0
tayo magtapos binabati po natin ng ah
45:02.0
happy happy 52nd birthday si Miss G
45:07.5
piller Ayan isa po siyang avid Viewer
45:10.5
natin at nakaka-chat din po natin siya
45:13.2
yung mga yung mga nagme-message sa
45:14.8
Facebook Facebook ko sa shopee sa Lazada
45:18.4
sa Instagram ako Sumasagot doon kaya
45:21.1
hindi ko agad nababasa pero Ayan
45:23.3
Maraming maraming salamat po kay Miss G
45:25.4
piller and Happy Happy Birthday po sa
45:28.3
inyo ah happy 52 birthday
45:32.3
today tapos binabati rin po natin si
45:35.3
Ma'am Juana ebora Ayan nag-message po
45:38.8
siya sa atin kaninang umaga sabi niya
45:41.1
I'm 73 years old I watch your vlog
45:44.2
Almost everyday naku Maraming maraming
45:46.8
salamat po ma'am Thank you for Uh for
45:52.8
support na high blood si Science and fax
45:57.5
Okay Tingan natin these are definitely
46:01.8
interesting times for the United States
46:05.0
and the rest of the world okay but one
46:07.6
thing that you cannot deny talagang nung
46:09.6
clear mandate dito kay Donald trump and
46:11.6
I definitely agree sa mga nagagalit sa
46:14.6
pagkapal ni Donald trump from the
46:17.0
democrats They only have themselves to
46:19.5
blame Honestly And there's some lessons
46:23.6
that of course the real opposition can
46:26.2
learn Uh dito sa Pilipinas when it comes
46:29.5
to coming up with a better better
46:32.7
alternative better policies better
46:36.6
proposals and better messaging yun ang
46:42.2
kailangan better messaging kasi pag
46:45.4
pinagaralan niyya history nito si Donald
46:49.0
salesman Ang galing niyang magbenta ng
46:52.3
sarili Kaya nga ' ba sinabi ko sa inyo
46:54.7
ung kanyang speech kanina t lahat ng mga
46:57.3
speeches niya He's prone to superlatives
47:01.0
' ba talagang boom ' ba ganun siya
47:03.7
magsalita eh the world
47:07.0
ah hasn't seen ' ba yung mga ganon si
47:09.6
ganon siya magsalita e very predictable
47:11.2
e So kung ganon iyung mga klase ng mga
47:14.8
leader na sa tingin mo dapat mong
47:16.5
talunin G dito sa Pilipinas ngayon ' ba
47:19.2
o How would you improve your messaging
47:22.5
to deal with those kinds of leaders or
47:28.0
Ayan oh sige po Maraming salamat po sa
47:32.1
inyong lahat kita-kita po tayo bukas
47:35.0
dito po sa fax first Ako po si Christian
47:38.4
esera Magandang gabi po sa inyong
